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Jose Reyes and Mark Buehrle upset Marlins broke promises regarding trades

Nov 16, 2012, 11:07 PM EST

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Here’s some more fallout from the Marlins’ pending 12-player blockbuster trade with the Blue Jays. According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, Jose Reyes and Mark Buehrle are upset that the team broke verbal promises to them regarding trades.

The Marlins do not award no-trade clauses, but club officials, while recruiting Reyes and Buerhle as free agents last offseason, assured both players that they would not be moved, sources said.

Buehrle knew the Marlins’ history of dumping high-priced players, and it concerned him, according to a friend. Team president David Samson, however, told both Buehrle and his wife, Jamie, that the team was committed to a long-term vision, sources said.

A source close to Reyes, asked if the shortstop also received verbal assurances from the Marlins that he would not be traded, responded, “The answer is yes. A vehement yes.”

There are plenty of reasons to criticize Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria, many of which have been detailed on this blog this week, but it’s tough to have much sympathy for Reyes and Buehrle in this instance. They each had the opportunity to get formal no-trade clauses included in their contracts last offseason, but they sacrificed it because the Marlins offered the most money. Taking the Marlins at their word? The representatives of Reyes and Buehrle have to know better than that.

  1. dawgpoundmember - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    sorry i didnt read the article if it is in it, but, i would think reyes would have no trade clause

    • D.J. Short - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

      No. The Marlins have a policy against no-trade clauses.

      • dawgpoundmember - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

        Really? Im surprised anyone would sign a contract now a days with out one, with 3 years team control and 3 years arbitration after going through the minors, free agents are in the middle of thieir prime, id like to make sure im going to play for the team i sign with for a few years

      • jonrox - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

        Signing a contract without a no-trade clause isn’t nearly as bad as commenting on a blog post without reading it

      • D.J. Short - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM

        Don’t disagree, but I’ve never been offered $100 million.

      • dawgpoundmember - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:55 PM

        I mean I guess you are correct jonrox. By not reading what was in front of me and hitting comment I signed 6 years with a 7th year option on someone telling me the part of country (or another country) I will be living, but like D.J. Said, I didn’t have $100 million saying who cares if I read the fine print, just the beer in my case.

    • tfbuckfutter - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM

      I didn’t read your comment but I think you’re probably dumb.

    • dawgpoundmember - Nov 18, 2012 at 3:22 AM

      Id like to know who was the 1 person to give me a thumbs up….i think the app should get an update

  2. brazcubas - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    Well, they do have a right to be upset, just as I have a right to be upset at all those Nigerian princes that no longer reply to my emails.

    • Gordon - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM

      Funny enough, Loria is a Nigerian prince.

  3. missthemexpos - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    I remember the verbal promises Jeffrey Loria made to Expo fans when he purchased the team.

    • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:11 AM

      Scrooge McLoria pulled the same stunt on Carlos Delgado. He assured him the team brought him in for the long haul, then shipped him off to the Mutts. Delgado was enough of a gentleman to keep the kvetching to a minimum. But as annoyed as both Buehrle and Reyes might be now, if they can’t find a way to enjoy Toronto, they might as well sign up for therapy for anhedonia. It’s a great city. And it’s got an ownership that’s committed to winning.

      • henryd3rd - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:10 AM

        These dude just got a pay cut when one considers the tax ramifications. And let’s not overlook the climate shock to their systems. Spring time in Toronto is a far cry from Coconut Grove and South Beach.

        Having said that Toronto is a beautiful city.

      • Francisco (FC) - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM

        @henryd3rd. Whatcha’ talkin’ ’bout? Round these parts, once the mercury hits 15C in late March / early April, the folks break out the shorts, beach balls and go take a pleasant swim in the lake.

    • dcfan4life - Nov 17, 2012 at 4:35 AM

      Lorias word is worth 2 outhouses and a port-o-potty to be named later…

      • henryd3rd - Nov 17, 2012 at 5:28 PM

        Let’s name the port-o-potty Sampson after Marlins’ GM

    • thebadguyswon - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:13 AM

      So do I.

  4. raysfan1 - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    There’s a word for anyone who takes anyone in the Marlins FO at their word, rather than in writing:__________

  5. Kevin Gillman - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Is it just me or does it seem like the Marlins are the worst franchise in Baseball? To toy with the fanbase like they did, building a new stadium, promising big things, only to trade almost the entire team the next season to me is inexcusable.

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:44 AM

      It’s not just you,

    • henryd3rd - Nov 17, 2012 at 5:32 PM

      Kevin, they’ve done this before. There used to be a MLB Team in a quaint little city of Montreal, Canada. Does that ring a bell? Loria sacked that club and somehow Buddy Boy and the rest of the MLB hierarchy allowed him to purchase the Marlins. Go figure!

      • Kevin Gillman - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:36 PM

        Loria owned the Expos too? I did not know that, it is sad. Maybe the new Commish in 2015 will change things up?

      • gloccamorra - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:44 PM

        MLB let Loria take over the Marlins because they wanted the John Henry group to own the Red Sox, the only group that wanted to preserve Fenway. They had to take over the hulk of the Expos, but there were groups ready to take it to D.C. so they had that covered. Unfortunately, The Henry group’s bid was less than Frank McCourt’s (all borrowed money, and planning to sell the Red Sox station to repay it) and Bud had to promise him a crack at another franchise later. We know the rest of that story. Loria is a loose end Bud will have to tie up before he retires in 2 years. I think he’s going to put the squeeze on Loria to sell, with the Expo example and the City of Miami backing up a “best interests of baseball” ruling. It’s a matter of getting it properly structured by the lawyers, I think.

  6. roverkarlthecannedham - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    The players assumed risk and took no steps to guarantee their positions. Pity for them, but this is big business. The only revenge now is to play well and show those who traded you away what they gave up. Still, The Marlins manage to look worse and worse.

    In the mean time, I can’t tell if The Blue Jays are the beneficiary of some outstandingly good luck or are being guided by the Ernst Stavro Blofeld of General Managers. They collect 2 – 3 highly motivated elite players, keep theses same players away from their competition, get to shine a light on the business practices of the Marlins front office, collect a stained star but likely still-elite slugger for a rock bottom price, and set themselves up to attract manager of some consequence. Their spending brings them in line with their peers and maximizes interest in the team thus motivating a fan base starved for sports due to strike in the home town’s preferred sport. Indeed, the home country’s preferred sport. This must be galvanizing the Canadian sports viewing public. All this at a time when it appears 2 of the teams in their division, 2 elite teams in Baseball in fact, might be looking at a dramatic fall off.

    The Red Sox are of course no big mystery. Utter disarray. But the Yankees, while it might be a bit more subtle, are also a likely fall off candidate. I can not believe that a 39 year old Captain Jeter will rebound from a broken ankle to be the man he was last season nor that Alex Rodriguez will be the force he once was. Their closer is hardly a lock, though what a story if the great Mariano Rivera comes back to dominate. Still, he is over 40, had a year off, coming off a bad injury and the bull pen behind him left me with many near conniption moments last season. Pitching in general is quite a problem for The Yankees. Perhaps Zack Grienke will ride to the rescue for saddlebags full of money?

    The American League East is still very tough. The Yankees have the financial means to fill holes and shore up nearly any position they care to. The Tampa Bay Rays are young, fast and have some outstanding pitching. The Baltimore Orioles are balanced and their players entering their prime. Things are very interesting on this coast.

    Ultimately though I am still lost in admiration for the Canadian team’s deft moves so far. I wonder how far their maneuvering extends? I wonder if The Blue Jays already have a manager? Someone who has agreed to helm this exciting product they have assembled and they are now waiting? Waiting for some time to pass, their names to cool in the media, other teams to make moves. Then, as we all wonder who the manager will be, rumors fly and so forth, they make the announcement, thus garnering the biggest media bang for their dollar. This then sets the stage for an exciting spring training and solid attendance wherever they go. The machinations of their GM seem to fit into such a theoretical plot. I wonder if keeps a Persian cat?

    • mazblast - Nov 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

      Thumbs up not only for the cogent analysis, but for the classic Blofeld references.

  7. bjbeliever - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    Verbal Is binding, next time bring a tape recorder!

    • Detroit Michael - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:36 AM

      Actually, verbal isn’t binding. The written contract very likely contains a clause stating that it constitutes the entire agreement, can only be amended by a written agreement, and supersedes all prior agreements. Basically, Reyes and Buerhle should have gotten a no-trade clause in writing if they intended it to be enforceable.

      • scratchnsniffnblog - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:30 AM

        Merger clauses are the best way to keep out parol evidence, but some courts have ruled that they are a rebuttable presumption.

        You’re right though: If you want something in a contract, put it in the contract.

      • gibbyfan - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:23 AM

        Of course they should have –It was widely publicized that Albert Pujols broke off negotiations precisely because he would nt accept a contract without a no trade clause–Not being traded was important to him so he would nt sign something that said that was an option—I’m sure the other guys had excellent high priced legal advice too when they signed the dotted lines. It seems they had to know exactly what they were doing.

      • henryd3rd - Nov 17, 2012 at 5:34 PM

        Verbal is only binding at the poker table.

  8. bizzmoneyb - Nov 16, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    what absolute snakes. these guys CHOSE to come play and live in Miami, while being promised they wouldn’t be moved. nobody in baseball will ever believe anything these crooks say or do. I don’t know why anyone would anyway. first they cried about losing so much money in the old park, that a new stadium had to be built. then after they suckered Miami Dade into the stadium the Forbes report was released showing they were one of the most profitable teams on baseball from ’08-’09. then the MLB offices had to warn the Marlins to start spending, because they were just pocketing their Revenue Share money instead of using it on the roster.

    I’ll never forget the first time I heard David Samson speak. it was at the first Fanfest at the stadium after they bought the team. Samson was doing a live radio interview on the concourse. The DJ asked him why should
    people be excited and. come watch this team (since they had just traded away abunch of good players), his response: the people of Sourh Florida should just be great full that we bought their team and aren’t moving it. that is the mentality of this ownership group. we should just be happy and fretful that we have a team.
    these disgusting snakes will never get another dime from me.

    • henryd3rd - Nov 17, 2012 at 5:38 PM

      How could you be so disrespectful to snakes? What have snakes done to you to be lumped into Loria/Sampson category? I’d rather trust the snakes then those two guys. And please let’s not leave out Marlins President Larry Beinfest!

  9. tile84 - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:25 AM

    “my word is stronger then oak” david samson

  10. kappy32 - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:36 AM

    It doesn’t matter what Samson told them. They knew damn well who they were getting into bed with. The Marlins have a long history of fire sales & it was dumb for them to sign their deals without no-trade clauses. Baseball is a business & teams are out to maximize their profits, the Marlins more so than others. Buehrle is one thing, but Reyes has to be a complete idiot to not see the writing on the wall. Reyes’ contract was structured in a way that it was completely back-loaded; his salaries for last season & this season are somewhere between $12-$13 million, with the annual number jumping to ver $20 million for the duration starting next season. Without a NTC & the team’s performance last year, Reyes had to have known he was being moved this offseason or at the trade deadline. Reyes was so fixated on the large amount of money he was getting that he ignored the most important provision to protect himself & secure locational stability for him & his family. I bet you he now wishes that he would’ve waited for the Mets & signed their offer with overall less money, but with a NTC. Reyes has no one to blame here but himself.

  11. kappy32 - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:25 AM

    @Detroit Michael:

    I am an attorney in NY & one of my primary areas of practice, along with criminal defense, is corporate & commercial litigation. The majority of my CCL cases involve breach of contract claims. While each jurisdiction have different precedents & rules of law governing contract law, one pretty standard rule is the intrinsic / extrinsic evidence rule. In order to enforce a contract & it’s provisions, the Court must first review the contract to determine whether it is, in fact, a binding, enforceable contract. When doing that, the Court looks to “The Four Corners of the Contract.” In other words, the Court looks solely at the actual contract & doesn’t take into consideration anything outside the contract, extrinsic evidence, such as letters of intent, oral agreements, etc. So long as the contract is “clear and unambiguous” and “all material terms & elements are agreed upon,” the Court will never review extrinsic evidence. On the other hand, if something within the four corners is found to be ambiguous or there is a material term left out, then the Court will take into consideration extrinsic evidence. Therefore, a verbal agreement between Samson & Reyes will not be considered should Reyes bring a breach of contract action for the Marlins moving him. It is a standard practice with the Marlins to not give no-trade clauses in their deals with players. As such, I would guarantee you that they include language in their standard player contacts that says as much. Furthermore, should such an action be commenced and extrinsic evidence would be admitted, their common & standard practice of not giving NTC’s would be extrinsic evidence the Court would consider, along with Samson’s alleged verbal guarantee. There is no way Reyes would be successful in a breach of contract claim against the Marlins & it would just be a waste of money for him to try it.

    • Klint Westwood - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:42 AM

      @Kappy32

      First off, I’m a Jays fan so I’m beyond down with this trade, but I’m also a law student. I’m wondering if the contracts could be set aside (rescinded) for fraudulent misrepresentation? I get the parole evidence rule would bar extrinsic evidence from construction of the terms of the contract, but it would not apply to misrepresentation. In this case the Marlins made an untrue verbal representation inducing Burelhe and Reyes to sign the contracts. Would they have any chance of pulling that off (baring discretionary factors considered by the courts)?

      • American of African Descent - Nov 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

        Here’s the trick, Klint. First, you would need to look at the collective bargaining agreement to see what it provides. (Remember, labor law trumps here.) But assuming that there are no controlling provisions of the collective bargaining agreement, to get rescission (an equitable remedy, mind you,) on the basis of fraudulent misrepresentation, you’d have to show (i) false statement of material fact at the time the statement was made, (ii) reasonable reliance on the statement. And I would argue that no baseball player could claim to have reasonably relied on an oral promise that he would not be traded, particularly if there is a merger clause. Next, to the the equitable remedy, the player would have to show there is no adequate remedy at law. But given that the rules of baseball allow trades (i.e., trades are part of the game), that might be a tough road to hoe as any loss of salary because of tax considerations could be remedied with money damages. Finally, if you really want the equitable remedy of rescission, the players would have to give up the money they earned last season. Do you really think they’re going to do that?

        (Now you would have gotten bonus points had you asked about the equitable remedy of reformation. You still have the reasonable reliance problem and the merger clause to deal with.)

    • SOBEIT - Nov 17, 2012 at 6:11 PM

      Whatever with the legal stuff. It’s simple. Most agents are attorneys anyway and/or have high priced attorneys on the payroll. Thier agents should have known better…whisper of promises or not! And it’s baseball and that is a business. And any agent worth their name would not believe a promise when their job is to put that promise in writing…and they should have consulted their client appropriately. It is entirely possible that the agent said let’s walk and the player said let’s accept based on the money and years. So at the end of the day, the player signed so that is the bed they must sleep in…even if it is now in Canada. So acting like a lover scorned is just funny to me.

      And these players earned the right to the power of Free Agency by being great players when they were under team control, but they gave that right away by signing on the dotted line because the player and agent got all gaga over the number of 0s and years in the contract. And any agent or player believing a team saying they “promise” are idiots because when a team says they have a company policy to not allow NO Trade Clauses in the contract is basically screaming we will do what we want, when we want, and it will be in our interest and not the players. The only thing I am shocked about is how fast it happend. But because it is Loria…

      The people who have the justification to be pissed are the fans and the community of Miami who will be paying for this monstocity of a debt for years while so many things in Miami are falling apart. As Gator highlighted…some people were not fooled by the promises and fought..but the corruption of Miami govt won. Then those politicians were soundly removed. But the tax payers still lose in the end and now the fans who got sucked in and payed for new jersies, season tickets, and the neighborhood residents where the ballpark is located. Plus with lower revenues going to the ballpark, the city get’s less tax revenue which was used in the accounting and justification for the ballpark in the fist place. And watch Loria attempt to use every tax loophole to claim a loss (when he is actually raking in the dough) and therefore take more tax exemptions.

  12. weaselpuppy - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:33 AM

    Regardless of whether or not Buehrle and Reyes were not real bright or duped….this is Really Very Bad for Baseball.

    when GMs and Owners are seen as enticing players to sign in a place long term by not just money and promises about building a competitive team, but also seen as being disingenuous to the fans, the city, baseball and the players by all the shenangians about the stadium, funding and the contract structures…THEN breaking the one verbal “reassurance” that mattered to the players signed…it starts to look like a plan/conspiracy…which has been talked about quite a bit…but add to that the idea that no one of any consequence will now sign w the Marlins with that ownership group, then that team just got nuked and won’t be competitive or attended….and the only solution to restore faith is to remove Loria….

  13. sfbookreviews - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:57 AM

    Bottom line is this:

    The Fish have a long-standing and well-known policy of not handing out no-trade clauses.

    The Fish have a long-standing and well-known history of sell-offs.

    These are grown men who went into this with eyes wide open and cannot possibly be surprised. If they are genuinely surprised, then they are morons. And they have bigger morons for agents.

  14. norcaldeportes - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:48 AM

    Blue Jays ownership committed to winning. That’s news to me. Unless of course that comment was from 1993.

  15. romoscollarbone - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:54 AM

    the difference in income tax is vast. I’d be po’d just off the fact of that. Im sure that when measur

    • sexyya - Nov 17, 2012 at 6:43 AM

      Milionares paying 14% tax as oppossed to paying NOTHING. Meanwhile, mid-income earners pay about 25% in taxes, and we are supposed to feel sorry for them. Any more articles and comments complaining about how they are going to start paying taxes, I will throw up.

    • rigatonikid - Nov 17, 2012 at 7:32 AM

      Only if they make their year round residence in Canada, otherwise, they get taxed for just the season. The tax differences seem large on the surface, but with a little scratching underneath, are actually quite comparable.

  16. romoscollarbone - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:55 AM

    we need an edit button. Anyway Im sure they had offers from other teams that when measured against the tax impact wouldve been comparable.

  17. bbk1000 - Nov 17, 2012 at 6:41 AM

    Enjoy Toronto Jose…..

    • sexyya - Nov 17, 2012 at 6:46 AM

      It’s a great city, if you ever been there.

      • bbk1000 - Nov 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM

        It’s nice, I have been there. It’s just not for Jose….he will not be happy….

      • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM

        Once he stumbles into Queen West, he’ll be fine. As Bill Cosby once whispered to Sidney Poitier, there are some fine looking mamas over there.

      • henryd3rd - Nov 17, 2012 at 5:43 PM

        II’ve been there and as you say it is a great city; but come on. Coconut Grove, South Beach, Coral Gables, Fisher Island and let’s not leave out Los Olas in Fort Lauderdale. South Florida has it all over Toronto

      • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:14 PM

        Fischer Island???? What are you gonna do over there – sip Dom Perignon and watch the sun come up? I mean, that isn’t exactly a hotspot, you know?

        Depends on what you’re looking for. If you’re into brain-stultifying disco, empty vanity, overpriced drinks and meals and chasing mindless pussy, yeah, SoBe and the Grove are great. If you’re into interesting live music, a terrific range of ethnic cuisines from all over the Commonwealth and beyond, interesting women, cabbage borscht and smoked meat sandwiches and an occasional educated conversation, Toronto rules.

      • bbk1000 - Nov 18, 2012 at 9:21 AM

        Gator, I think Reyes is married, I saw his wife, not a handsome women by any means…..

      • mazblast - Nov 18, 2012 at 9:57 PM

        It is a great city, been there several times. It’s also much more pleasant in the summer than trying to live in hot, sweaty, rains-every-day-around-5 Miami. Spend your summers in Toronto and your winters in Florida and you’ll be just fine.

  18. 1bucfan813 - Nov 17, 2012 at 7:26 AM

    Marlin fans your better off becoming Tampa Rays fans from now on. Maybe we can be able to get some sell outs. This team is more exiting to watch. We have a better team a great coach, and a great GM.

    • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:12 AM

      You also play designatedhitterball. For the most part, Feesh fans, however few of us are left, are baseball fans.

      • indaburg - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM

        Watching the Rays is as close as you can to NL-style ball in the AL.

        All indications are that eventually, the NL will have the DH also. Come on… be proactive and join us. There’s plenty of room.

      • hermitfool - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM

        Fans of the DH don’t really like baseball. Most of ‘em are ADHD NFL or NBA or NHL fans who wouldn’t know a nuance if it bit ‘em in the ass.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:04 AM

        Sorry, Indaburg. If MLB goes universal on the DH, they will lose close to half, if not more than half, of their fans.

      • indaburg - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM

        You say that koufax, but I think people will miss the game too much. I was once firmly anti-DH, growing up in the NL as a Mets fan. I understand the arguments against it as they were my arguments too. When I switched allegiances to my new hometown team in 2006, I learned to stop worrying and love the DH. Well, love is too strong. Tolerate. We humans are amazingly adaptable creatures, and the essence of the game is still there.

        I don’t want to turn this into a pro-DH thread. If tomorrow, the DH was abolished everywhere, I would be okay with that so I’m really not the best person to argue in its favor. Let’s stick to a topic everyone can agree: Loria is an asshole of epic proportions (and get everything in writing).

        Hermit, nuance has bitten me in the ass many times, and I was aware of it every single time. Damn nuance. It’s so sneaky.

      • 18thstreet - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM

        There’s been a designated hitter rule in baseball for, what, twice as long as there’s been baseball in Florida?

        Get over it. Really.

      • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM

        longer. It still sucks. I still freshen my wreath of wolfsbane every week to keep it the hell away from Macondo.

      • American of African Descent - Nov 18, 2012 at 12:25 PM

        So you would rather see the automatic out than watch a professional pitcher try to beat a professional hitter?

        Maybe 25 years ago, when starting pitchers pitched eight or nine innings you could argue that the NL baseball offered “strategy” because the manager would have to decide whether to pinch hit for his starting pitcher late in the game. Now a days, with many pitchers pitching only 6 innings, and a bullpen rotation that includes (i) a closer, (ii) a set-up man, (iii) a set-up for the set-up man, (iv) a left handed specialist, (v) a right handed specialist, and (vi) a long man, it’s laughable to say there’s anything close to strategy in the NL.

    • henryd3rd - Nov 17, 2012 at 7:32 PM

      That’s stadium of yours is a dump. The ownership tries to put on a good show; but the fans of that area have not supported that team. You guys don’t derserve a team. And those cow bells! Please!

      The only way I tramps across the sate to watch that team play would be when the Yankees come to town.

  19. sumerduckman - Nov 17, 2012 at 7:28 AM

    When you choose to jump into a tank full of sharks, don’t bitch about getting bit.

    • kiwicricket - Nov 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM

      Out of the 400 odd species of Sharks, only half a dozen are considered dangerous to humans. Only 3 are considered deadly.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM

        But what about lawyers?

      • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM

        Subtract them and you’re down to two species.

      • crisisjunky - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:28 AM

        Lawyers at the bottom of the ocean joke here?

      • js20011041 - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM

        I think lawyers get a bit of a bad rap. If you really want to talk about the scum of the earth, look no further than businessmen. Such as, coincidentally enough, Jeffrey Loria and David Samson. Now, before anyone goes off the handle, I’m not talking about people that run mom and pop local businesses. I’m talking about the people that run major corporations. You don’t get to be super wealthy without hurting a lot of people along the way.

      • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:21 PM

        Yes, but look at it this way: when you get two guys with a dominant G chromosome (for goniff), if not for their lawyers they would be at the bottom of the ocean by now – and it wouldn’t have bothered Billy Bathgate worth a damn to watch them hit the water, cement slippers and all.

  20. stormbrewed - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:28 AM

    Not sure about Reyes, but Mark Buehrle’s agent is Scot Boras. One of the reasons the White Sox would not resign Buehrle was Boras, an agent known for his business acumen and as being baseball’s most “hated man” (in the owner’s eyes). The White Sox have a pretty good history of being honest with their players, but Boras was the one agent they did not want to deal with.
    He’s brokered plenty of high paying contracts that have sometimes been at the team’s expense and future (granted, it was the owner of the team that agreed to the deal too).
    Nonetheless, this has got to be a black eye for Boras and his corporation.
    There is other news out there that the Jays will be using Buehrle as trade bait.

    • proudlycanadian - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM

      The trade bait crap came from Mr. bow tie. Rosenthal is not to be taken seriously. The Jays want Buehrle and are probably pleased that they did not have to negotiate with his agent.

      • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:23 PM

        And here I always thought that Arnold Stang was Mr. Bow Tie. But then maybe things are just different in Canadawhich is, after all, another country, even though most Americans seem to think it’s just our largest suburb.

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:26 PM

        We do have a suburb across the border. It is called Buffalo.

      • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM

        You should have ended the Queenway at Burlington.

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 18, 2012 at 7:08 AM

        Burlington is a bedroom community for snobs who do not want to live in the industrial city of Hamilton. I left Hamilton when I was 9 months old. It was not my choice, but the Air Force sent dad to a base in western Ontario.
        You meant the Queen Elizabeth Way not the Queenway. In Toronto you can also find streets called Queen Street, The Queensway, Queens Quay, as well as King Street. Victoria was the Queen in question for some streets, but the QEW was named after the present queen’s mom..

  21. natslady - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    There could also be an Ozzie factor. When the Nats were pursuing Buehrle (pre-Gio), the word was he preferred to follow Ozzie to Miami. Don’t know if that holds for Reyes. Of course, no one expects managers to stay put but he also had a mult-year contract.

    So Ozzie, Buehrle, et al, settled into Miami for the happy and foreseeable future. They, um, just forgot to win ballgames.

  22. willclarkgameface - Nov 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    It’s all about the money.

    They feel slighted because the Marlins brass (Loria) broke a promise? Funny guys.

    Get it in writing. Don’t let these jokers just say things and take that as gospel. All YOUR fault Reyes and Buehrle.

  23. chill1184 - Nov 17, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    I read this and I just laugh

  24. bills4 - Nov 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    I tried returning my broken stereo and the girl,says, “where is your receipt?” I said I didn’t know and she told me I needed proof of purchase. I told her I bought it here but she said she couldn’t just take my word, she needed documented proof. Hmmm!!

    • crisisjunky - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM

      Trade it.

  25. kkolchak - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Reminds me of the old fable about the frog and the scorpion.

    • Old Gator - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:34 PM

      Yep. There’s a Discoglossus nigriventer sitting on the bank of the Jordan minding his own business when he is approached by a Leiurus quinquestriatus who asks him for a ride across the river. You must think I’m totally meshugenah, says the Hula frog. If I let you climb on my back you’ll sting me. Well, what good would that do me, says the deathstalker. If I stung you you’d drown and so would I? Why would I want to be dead? The frog thinks this over and, seeing the inherent common sense of it, invites the deathstalker to climb on board and starts swimming across the Jordan. Halfway across, piouyit!, the deathstalker stings the frog. Oy! cries the frog as his nervous system starts turning to pitcha, what the hell did you do that for? Now we’re both shtupped! The deathstalker shrugs and says, hey, that’s the Middle East for ya!

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