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Dodgers considered “the favorites” to sign Zack Greinke

Nov 18, 2012, 12:33 PM EDT

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It was reported earlier this month that free agent right-hander Zack Greinke is on the Dodgers’ list of desired offseason acquisitions. And his name is apparently pretty high up on that list, too.

An “industry insider” told Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald this weekend that the Dodgers are being viewed as the favorites to sign Greinke, who is the top starter on the open market this winter.

Los Angeles’ payroll is already hovering near $200 million, but that doesn’t seem to matter to the club’s higher-ups. Brandon League scored a ridiculous three-year, $22.5 million contract in late October.

Greinke, 29, posted a 3.48 ERA, 1.20 WHIP and 200/54 K/BB ratio in 212 1/3 innings this past season between the Brewers and Angels. He’s thought to be seeking an agreement worth close to $150 million.

The Rangers are also interested, and the Angels are expected to make a strong effort to re-sign him.

  1. 49ersgiants4life - Nov 18, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    I doubt he signs with them and if he does he won’t be very good remember his anxiety disorder that he had in KC that will be magnified with playing for the dodgers and their fans

    • iamjimmyjack - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM


      • paperlions - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:17 PM

        Nah, just ignorant….willfully so.

    • samu0034 - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:37 PM

      Jesus, give it up already. The guy has a bit of an anxiety problem, an he seems to have dealt with it well. Zack Greink’s anxiety disorder does not define him. If he signs in LA, he’ll probably be fine. Maybe he won’t be, but probably he would be. Just grow the hell up and stop presuming that he CAN’T play in a decent sized city because he’s GOING to turtle up and flake out.

      • truebluela - Nov 19, 2012 at 7:20 PM


    • dondada10 - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:00 PM

      Right, those ravenous Dodger fans. They’ll eat Greinke alive after they get to the stadium around the 3rd innings.

    • theaxmancometh - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:40 PM

      He was fine in Milwaukee. And playing in front

    • theaxmancometh - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:41 PM

      He was fine in Milwaukee. And playing in front of Dodgers fans an issue? They show up in the 3rd inning & leave in the 7th. Child please

    • tinmans2cents - Nov 18, 2012 at 4:21 PM

      I would have anxiety too if I had to pitch for KC…

  2. iamjimmyjack - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM

    WOW! The Dodgers are basically going into 2013 as the NL All Star team.
    1. Dee Gordon
    2. Carl Crawford
    3. Matt Kemp
    4. Adrian Gonzales
    5. Hanley Ramirez
    6. Andre Ethier
    7. Luis Cruz (Kevin Youkilis?)
    8. AJ Ellis

    1. Kershaw
    2. Greinke
    3. Beckett
    4. Billingsley
    5. Ryu

    WOWOWOWOWOW! Cant wait.

    • nogoodtomedead - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:18 PM

      Yep- that formula always works for the Yankees too.

      Few issues stopping the era of Dodgers dominance:

      1) Dee Gordon needs to learn how to play baseball
      2) Carl Crawford needs to play well enough to not be considered one of the worse contracts in baseball
      3) Hanley Ramirez needs to not be an asshat
      4) Dodgers will need to request that left-handed pitchers throw beach-balls so Ethier can put them in play
      5) And in theory Grienke will need to stand up to the scrutiny that comes with being on a big market dream-team.

      • clydeserra - Nov 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM

        don’t forget Ethier is a DH playing right field.

      • schrutebeetfarms - Nov 19, 2012 at 8:00 AM

        It actually does work pretty well for the Yankees. They seem to make the playoffs pretty consistently.

      • sailcat54 - Nov 20, 2012 at 2:39 AM

        This isn’t the first time the Dodgers have tried to buy a World Series caliber team instead of building one. It hasn’t been a terribly successful strategy, though.

    • paperlions - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:23 PM

      Really? There are only 2 guys likely to play at AS levels in that starting 8. Beckett has been a disaster, his stuff is gone. Most think Ryu is best suited to relief.

      Dodger fans should be excited, but it is not realistic to act like Crawford, Ramirez, or Ethier are AS caliber players at this point in their careers…and the other guys simply are not, have never been, or are unlikely to ever be AS players. Billingsly is close to needing TJ surgery, just a matter of time….and probably not much time, either.

    • djpostl - Nov 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM

      Other than the fact that Crawford sucks, Gonzalez is over-rated and plenty overpaid, Beckett is trash you may be right.

    • echech88 - Nov 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

      If the last time you watched baseball was to follow your 2007 fantasy baseball roster, than yeah you have a lot to be excited about.

  3. jjpileggi - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    Not a great fit for Dodgers and Zach. Big city, lots of pressure.

    John Pileggi

    • jayquintana - Nov 18, 2012 at 5:35 PM

      LA’s not NY or Boston. If I were the Yankees or Red Sox, I wouldn’t even consider signing him.

  4. chukpark - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Greinke might be more comfortable pitching behind Kershaw.

  5. gq2scoops - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:33 PM

    Why so many haters on this thread??? Give me a break about the whole anxiety thing with Greinke! That was what 6 years ago? Doesn’t he take regular meds for that? Didn’t he just pitch in Anaheim and did perfectly fine? Is the LA media as bad as Philly, NY, or Boston???

    The Dodgers are a perfect fit for him especially if he’s saying he loves to hit and you’d think he’d rather be pitching in the NL West versus the AL West.

  6. hitem396 - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:33 PM

    who pays 25M posting fee(and plus more salary) for a reliever? Ryu is starter if signs him. that means gotta trade Harang n Capuano

    • paperlions - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      Who pays a $25M post fee for a likely reliever? A team with lots of cash that doesn’t do it’s homework. Teams were shocked at the posting fee because most teams see him as an effective reliever or back of the rotation starter in MLB. This is a dodger team that gave a stupid contract to Brandon League recently. They also acted like they aren’t particularly interested in signing Ryu….stating that their interest in contingent on how FA shakes out.

      • kingscourt25 - Nov 18, 2012 at 7:02 PM

        They get their $25m back if they can’t sign Ryu.

      • paperlions - Nov 19, 2012 at 7:34 AM

        Yes, and if they don’t make a serious attempt to sign him, Japanese teams may never select their bid again (they are not obligated to take the highest bid).

    • djpostl - Nov 18, 2012 at 3:38 PM

      The kind of team that gave Brandon League a 23M dollar deal…that’s who.

  7. cadillacjosh - Nov 18, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    i always thought his anxiety problems were a bit overblown. at least as far as his time in Milwaukee was concerned, every game he pitched in front of 42k, sold out and the entire state was leaning on him to have a better year than his cy young year. there was a lot of expectation with him and he handled his end.

  8. wj4122 - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Dodgers not doing there homework??? I admit that Ned has made some retarded deals in the past but the dodgers have/ are bringing together some of the best minds in baseball. Stan kasten is not a fool he knows what he is doing. The reason the nationals are where they are today is because of kasten and the old dominance of the braves. He redefined the baseball community and organization in Atlanta.

    • kingscourt25 - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM

      The Dodgers are also putting together a solid farm system. Hiring a dream team of scouts and re-emphasizing their influences overseas. Puig, Seager, Lee, the LHP from Mexico they signed, and possibility Ryu and Otani is a nice start. They’ll have nice overturn of talent by the time Kemp, A-Gonz, etc. start getting old.

    • paperlions - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:57 PM

      Kasten has only handled the business side, not the baseball side….have the Dodgers made one smart baseball decision since Kasten et al. bought the team? Ned is not a good GM, they’ve taken on other teams overpaid players while also giving up prospects. So far, they’ve spent a LOT of money, but that’s about it….this looks a lot more like the Mets or Cubs a few years ago than anything else.

      • kingscourt25 - Nov 18, 2012 at 3:07 PM

        Line-up in opening day:
        Dee Gordon, SS
        Mark Ellis, 2B
        Matt Kemp, CF
        Andre Ethier, RF
        James Loney, 1B
        Juan Uribe, 3B
        Juan Rivera, LF
        AJ Ellis, C
        Clayton Kershaw, SP

        to projected line-up in 2013:
        Mark Ellis, 2B
        Carl Crawford, LF
        Matt Kemp, CF
        Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
        Hanley Ramirez, SS
        Andre Ethier, RF
        Kevin Youkilis/Luis Cruz, 3B
        AJ Ellis, C

        People fail to realize that there are different ways to build baseball a team. Everyone can’t build their team like the Rays or Rangers. The Dodgers have the resources to sign players to big contracts so why use the resource to your advantage? Especially if they think that player can improve their team.

      • paperlions - Nov 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM

        Well, there are a couple of reasons….first, they are paying a LOT more for some players that are only slightly better than the guys they are replacing. Second, you only have 25 roster spots, when you have a bunch of expensive contracts, it makes roster moves difficult, and roster flexibility is far more important than people realize.

        This Dodger team doesn’t look much better than last year’s team right now….bigger names, yeah. But the differences in production between the no-names and the expensive names likely won’t be that large.

      • kingscourt25 - Nov 18, 2012 at 3:21 PM

        What are you talking? Youk and Cruz are significantly better than Uribe. Hanley is significantly better than Dee Gordon. James Loney isn’t even on the same planet as Gonzalez in terms of production. Crawford is a sunk cost, but he’s still better than Rivera.

        Do you realize the Dodgers have no limit in terms of spending. If they want someone, say Johnny Gomes for the bench, then they’re going to get him at their price. Besides, they already have players Jerry Hairston Jr. and Tony Gywnn Jr. on the bench. It’s not like they need much.

      • paperlions - Nov 18, 2012 at 5:07 PM

        First, they haven’t signed Youk. You’re expectations for Cruz are based on ….what?

        Hanley is not very good anymore. He hasn’t been for years, and his defense is a disaster. Any improvement you see with the bat, will be negated (compared to Gordon) by Hanley’s horrible defense and bad base running).

        The acquisitions will make LA a solid team, but the expectation that they are going to be great isn’t based on reality…it is based on typical unwarranted off-season optimism.

        These guys that are soooo fantastic. Tell me. How did the Dodgers do after upgrading with Ramirez, Beckett, Gonzalez, et al. last year? They pretty much played exactly as well as the team did before those trades.

      • kingscourt25 - Nov 18, 2012 at 5:58 PM

        Except Gordon is horrible on defense as well. Hanley at his worst is better than Gordon right now and it isn’t even arguable. McGwire as the hitting coach could help Hanley with his approach as well.

        They only played 5 weeks together right in the thick of the pennant race. It’s a small sample size regardless. Besides, what does 2011 have to do with 2012? We’ve seen teams fall off that were good a year before and teams get much better that were bad the previous year.

      • kingscourt25 - Nov 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM

        Cruz changed his stance a few years ago and has been very good in AAA and in the majors since. He has good contact skills and is a very good defensively. There’s a chance he’s a late bloomer looking at his size and strength (6’2, 220)

  9. kingscourt25 - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    What the hell are the Angels doing? Not signing Greinke makes their spending spree last season all the more stupid. They also gave up 3 quality prospects to get him, so now their farm sucks, too.

    • echech88 - Nov 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

      The trade was intended to get them into the playoffs and have a shot at a ring in 2011. Thinking you are obligated to spend like a drunken housewife to keep him does not remedy that mistake, it potentially makes it worse 2 years from now.

      The Angels are doing what a responsible team does: realize that at a certain cost, players will hurt your team more than help them.

      A-Rod is too expensive to trade or cut for the Yankees even though he is extremely mediocre. Vernon Wells prevents the Angels from spending an extra $24M ever year. Barry Zito prevented the Giants from acquiring offense for years. The Phillies will soon have to win IN SPITE of Ryan Howard and not get to benefit from him.

      If you are the Dodgers it makes sense to severely overpay everyone to get marginally better because you have no budget and your GM has proven to be pretty terrible at identifying value in trades. For teams that have to make smart decisions, flexibility matters.

  10. fasteddy415 - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Last time I saw Grienke pitch the anemic A’s line up the AL kings of Strikeouts were looking like ALL-STARS! This is great news for us Giants Fans!

    • clydeserra - Nov 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM

      Anemic A’s? They were basically the same as the Giants last year.

  11. 49ersgiants4life - Nov 18, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    I’m all for the dodgers spending $150 million on a guy with a career 3.77 ERA by the way anxiety isn’t just something you stop having you can see a psychologist about it but you can only suppress it so much it is always there oh and when he went from a small market team with a hitters park to a big market team with a pitchers park his ERA jumped up

    • historiophiliac - Nov 18, 2012 at 6:59 PM

      He has social anxiety disorder. It’s entirely possible that the time his anxiety bothers him the least is when he’s on the mound.

    • cardsfanandi - Nov 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

      If you don’t think any team that signs him won’t allow him to talk to a therapist about his anxiety whenever he needs to, you’re crazy. It’s kind of like a recurring injury. You know how to fix it, sometimes you just need a little physical therapy to help out. And historiophiliac is right, social anxiety is more common when having face to face interaction with people. In a crowd like that, people’s attention doesn’t seem as focused in on just you.

      It hurts a little to say it since he was such a tool about the Cardinals during the 2011 post season, but I hope he gets a big contract with a big market team and performs so much better than expected. It’s always nice to have someone in the spotlight overcome a struggle to prove to other’s going through it that the fight to overcome it is all worth it…especially when it’s to say, “I overcame it to go on to make $20+ million/year pitching for (insert big name here).” Good luck Zack!

  12. 49erscott - Nov 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    The Dodgers can’t hold the Giants jock strap. It’s going to be hilarious when they miss the playoffs.

    • clydeserra - Nov 18, 2012 at 8:38 PM

      cuz the giants are really doing a great job improving themselves

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM

        Cuz Giants fans, after years of wondering what it’s like to have a winning baseball like the Dodgers, end up resorting to whine and cry about the Dodgers (still) even though they won 2 of the last 3 the World Series.

      • sailcat54 - Nov 20, 2012 at 2:46 AM

        Really Koufaxmitzvah? It seems to me the last time the Dodgers appeared in a WS was 1988. Sounds like LA hasn’t been playing much winning baseball for the last twenty+ years.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 20, 2012 at 10:57 AM

        SF Giants fans have problems with reading comprehension. No one denies the Dodgers haven’t won a World Series in 20+ years. No one denies the Giants having won two World Series in the last 3 years. Just like no one can deny the LA Dodgers have won a total of 5 World Series versus only 2 for the SF Giants.

        So what’s your point?

      • sailcat54 - Nov 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM

        “…after years of wondering what it’s like to have a winning baseball like the Dodgers…”

        Just putting the lie to your quote. Pull yourself together.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 20, 2012 at 4:19 PM

        What lie? You mean my opinion about how Giants fans like you behave on message boards like this?

        Funnier is how you insist that you aren’t doing exactly what I claim you are doing even while you’re doing it.

        But, hey, if it makes you feel better. Yes. I’m a liar. Because the Dodgers still have a 5:2 WS advantage over the Giants. Yup. You sure got me.

      • sailcat54 - Nov 20, 2012 at 8:22 PM

        Looks like I hit a nerve! Now if you’re talking about the WS wins since the teams have appeared on the West Coast, yes. If you count the total since the franchises have been in existence, no. The Giants have won a total of seven titles and the Dodgers have won six. Of course, the important thing is where you want to draw the arbitrary line that makes you feel like a winner, right, little guy?

  13. 11nfcwestchamps - Nov 18, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    You dodger fans crack me up, stock pile these high priced free agents , just don’t forget who the champs are! SFGIANTS no. 1.

  14. kcrobert10 - Nov 18, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Good for zack hope he gets lots of money. I don’t buy he can’t pitch in a big market. I hope the dodgers are doing there homework on the payroll they arent the Yankees and spending money wrong can lead to massive disaster just ask Boston and philly how the money on big fa has worked its also caught the Yankees many times to.

  15. wj4122 - Nov 18, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    LOL giants fans crack me up. Paying huge amounts of money for average pitching seems to be a strategy for you. ( Zito ) and 20 million a year for a starter that was not even good enough to start but better in the bullpen ( lincecum ) Enjoy your championship you earned it and it won’t happen again for a long time. You won’t even be favored to win it next year!

    • echech88 - Nov 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

      Trashing the Giants’ strategy a month after they won a world series and the Dodgers failed to back into the playoffs with all their shiny new busts. Smart.

      The money means nothing if you don’t spend it on players that at least KIND OF earn it (Miggy, Fielder, Sabathia, Cain, Beltre etc)

      To be completely honest I still am surprised Dodger fans are so confident in Gonzalez, Beckett and Hanley as being superstars after you watched them make little if any impact for a good 2 months of the season.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 19, 2012 at 12:30 PM

        “To be completely honest I still am surprised Dodger fans are so confident in Gonzalez, Beckett and Hanley as being superstars after you watched them make little if any impact for a good 2 months of the season.”

        Hence, we see some differences between Dodgers fans and Giants fans. Optimism for the product on the field as opposed to the thrill of shoving it in the other team fans faces; check. Knowledge of numbers (Gonzalez: .297 avg, 31 RP in 36 games; Beckett 2.93 ERA, 38 K in 43 IP) as to what is considered good and terrible; check. The belief that a 2 month sprint equates a full 6 month marathon; check.

      • sailcat54 - Nov 20, 2012 at 2:52 AM

        Good luck with that, Koufaxmitzvah. The product on the field has yielded the Dodgers precious few positive results and their strategy of buying a WS-caliber team hasn’t worked well for them, has it? On the other hand, the Gigantes strategy of building teams using players who have been cultivated in their farm teams plus smart purchases throughout the regular season have resulted in two World Series in three years. Therefore, I see considerable difference in Dodger fans and Giants fans: we Giants fans root for a winning team.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Nov 20, 2012 at 4:15 PM

        Why even discuss baseball with a Battery Chucker? It’s not like you actually read what’s been written. I know this because you continue to make the same tired and untrue statements. There is a difference between trades and FA signings. Especially trades made at and after the deadline (i.e. end of July, beginning to middle of August). Nobody in Dodgersville felt that making those trades were going to do anything but possibly provide a shot in the arm. Because, see, those trades were made just as much for 2013 as they were for a hopeful shot in 2012.

        Breathing in grandfather farts in the back seat of a slow moving car is more pleasant an experience than discussing baseball with Battery Chuckers. Because at least those farts don’t lie.

      • sailcat54 - Nov 20, 2012 at 8:23 PM

        Spoken like a true loser, koufaxmitzvah. Enjoy your grandfather’s next visit, by the way.

  16. sfgiantsfanforlife - Nov 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Am i the only one who is tired of all the talk lately of the dodgers signing everyone. They havent signed a sol Yet. They sure are being heavy on all the talk lately. They’ll choke anyways.

  17. prosourcetalk - Nov 18, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    TJ Simers is going to have a field day ripping this team apart when they fail to meet their ridiculous expectations.

    • 4d3fect - Nov 18, 2012 at 11:30 PM

      Nobody cares about TJ Simers.

      Except you maybe.

  18. wj4122 - Nov 19, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    I love how mad giants fans are getting about hearing all the news the dodgers are getting. I have not heard a single thing about the giants winning the ws or about them in general since the week after they won it. The dodgers have not proven anything yet and can’t say a whole lot until they do but after all the McCourt drama we are so relieved on an ownership willing to do anything for the organization from top to bottom ( the lineup is a fraction of what they are doing ). And Andre is a great on defense hence his gold glove.

  19. Brinke - Nov 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    As someone in the SF Bay Area, I’d say, “Dodgers, sign anyone you like.” How’s that big FA splash you made last summer looking to you?

    We did OK signing our 1 guy Scutaro.

    • Jamblinman - Nov 19, 2012 at 12:45 PM

      Nobody is arguing the Dodgers were a better team than the Giants last season. SF earned its WS title. But if you really believe Scutaro and his career .270 average is going to continue to play Superman, you’re crazy. And sure it sounds like a cop-out to say the Dodgers’ all-star lineup missed the playoffs because they only had five weeks together, but it’s true. The final two weeks of the season, when they all finally started to click, was much more indicative of what opponents will get this coming season. That should be a scary thought. Yes I still think the Giants have a better overall team (mostly because of the rotation), but would I be surprised at ALL to see the Dodgers take the West back in 2013? Not even a little bit.

      • Brinke - Nov 19, 2012 at 8:53 PM

        2 titles in 3 years, i like our chances. That and the Dodgers payroll is stuck with all that bloat.

      • sailcat54 - Nov 20, 2012 at 2:59 AM

        “That and the Dodgers payroll is stuck with all that bloat.”

        Just wait until Dodger management tries to unload a few of the unproductive players for whom they have paid far too much.

  20. sfm073 - Nov 20, 2012 at 7:53 AM

    When a team goes on a spending spree like this has it ever worked out before? Dodger fans have reason to be optimistic but be careful what u wish for.

  21. koufaxmitzvah - Nov 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

    “Hey San Francisco Giants fans! You recently won your second World Series in three years. What are you going to do next?”

    “We’re going to troll Dodgers threads and misrepresent recent history!”

    • sailcat54 - Nov 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM

      How about the recent history of the last three years? Or do you consider 1988 recent history? By the way, koufaxmitzvah, the Giants have won four NL pennants and two WS rings since ’88. Or does that misrepresent the fantasies to which you are clinging so tightly?

    • Jamblinman - Nov 21, 2012 at 11:53 PM

      Koufaxmitzvah (awesome name by the way), don’t bother with this Sailcat character. Clearly one of the millions of Giants “fans” who voted Brandon Crawford 300k votes away from starting the All-Star Game. Despicable. Don’t waste your time. Go Doyers!

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