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Pete Rose banishment document fails to reach reserve price at auction on Saturday night

Nov 18, 2012, 5:29 PM EDT

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ESPN’s Darren Rovell tells this depressing tale:

Pete Rose’s copy of the document that banished him from baseball failed to meet its reserve price when the auction closed on Saturday night.

The document, signed by “Peter Edward Rose,” as well as by then commissioner A. Bart Giamatti and deputy commissioner Fay Vincent, received bids up to $235,000.

But Ken Goldin of Goldin Auctions, told that it did not meet the reserve price, which has not been revealed.

The document does not include an admission by Rose that he bet on baseball — that came later in a 2004 autobiography titled “My Prison Without Bars” — but it did officially make him ineligible for the Hall of Fame and barred him from ever getting another job in MLB.

Goldin called it “the most important document in baseball history,” but collectors apparently did not agree.

The 1919 contract that sent Babe Ruth from the Red Sox to the Yankees sold for $996,000 in 2005.

  1. raysfan1 - Nov 18, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    Golding is apparently a graduate of the Scott Boras School of Hyperbole.

    • pjmarn6 - Nov 18, 2012 at 8:04 PM

      First Pete Rose ain’t no Babe Ruth.
      Second it took 86 years for the Babe Ruth document to fetch almost a million dollars.
      Third Pete Rose ain’t going to around and probably with time the document will fetch less than the $235,000 that he turned down.

      • raysfan1 - Nov 18, 2012 at 8:17 PM

        Kinda my point.

      • hep3 - Nov 18, 2012 at 11:40 PM

        Rose probably has dozens of copies to sell, also. Shop early.

  2. jimbo75025 - Nov 18, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    And in other news, Pete Rose was seen at a Las Vegas casino Saturday night betting on the over/under the document would sell for.

  3. annaalamode - Nov 18, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    The older he gets, the more tragic a figure Pete Rose seems.

  4. cur68 - Nov 18, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    Jeez Laweeze, Pete. Its “the most important document in Pete Rose’s Baseball history” and that’s about it. Frankly, I think +2 hundred grand is pretty good for that document.

    • historiophiliac - Nov 18, 2012 at 6:33 PM

      But, but, it’s signed with shame. (and probably tear-stained)

    • eugenesaxe - Nov 19, 2012 at 1:57 AM

      Except it’ll be pointless once he’s reinstated, which will happen eventually.

      • jimbo75025 - Nov 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM

        At this point though, Pete is gonna be dead before that happens. Bud Selig just does not want to take a chance on him doing something stupid. I would expect once Pete dies, maybe 3 years goes by and he will then be reinstated.

        To new fans these days, Pete Rose is not very significant anyway though-20 years of being nothing but a punch line is a long, long time.

  5. professor30 - Nov 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Hey Pete, nobody f’in cares anymore, get over it.

    • ptfu - Nov 18, 2012 at 11:46 PM

      Someone cared enough to bid $235K.

  6. kkolchak - Nov 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    Rose was my boyhood hero, so I have him to thank for turning me into the cynical SOB I am today. Which does have its advantages, I must admit.

  7. schmedley69 - Nov 18, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    It’s just Pete being Pete. He’s definitely been a trainwreck off the field, but he’s still one of the greatest players ever and should be in the HOF. He shouldn’t be allowed to hold any positions of power in baseball, but he should be allowed to attend ceremonies, etc. He still means a lot to Reds and Phillies fans.

  8. anarchopurplism - Nov 18, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    The collective political punishment on this guy is crazy. I hope the HOF voters aren’t waiting until he dies.

    Move on….this story is old hat.

    • raysfan1 - Nov 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM

      HoF rules make anyone banned from baseball also banned from the HoF. As it stands, they will not only wait until Rose dies, they will will wait indefinitely beyond that. Shoeless Joe Jackson died in 1954 and is still not in.

  9. mazblast - Nov 18, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    The unasked question (as usual, there is one, and as usual, it’s obvious) is why Pete is selling his copy of the document. The second unasked question, based on previous Pete memorabilia sales of many items billed as genuine multiple times over, is whether it’s the real document.

    • dan1111 - Nov 19, 2012 at 2:05 AM

      Given Rose’s history of trying to monetize his sob story (such as by selling balls signed “I’m sorry I bet on baseball”), I don’t think the first question is much of a mystery.

  10. bluesoxbaseball - Nov 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM

    That document didn’t make him ineligible for the hall of fame. The subsequent rule change made him ineligible.

  11. BigBeachBall - Nov 19, 2012 at 3:55 AM

    Its still called a pete rose slide were im from…

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