Comments on: Rays get creative in re-signing reliever Joel Peralta

By: mazblast

mazblast — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:30:20 +0000

I don’t see too many otehr teams doing something like this. In the words of the late, great Chico Marx, “We no canna do a-that. It make-a too much-a sense.”

By: natslady

natslady — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:51:45 +0000

No, inda, I didn’t think it was you. I can understand thumbs when a person is giving opinions, but when you are just stating the FACTS??? The facts are that the Nats were willing to go one year on Peralta but not more. The facts are that Peralta was suspended for pine-tar on his glove.

By: natslady

natslady — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:46:46 +0000

pdowdy, strange as it may seem, I actually did research to confirm my impression. According to WaPo and several other sources, the Nats made a one-year offer to Peralta, which he declined, asking for a multi-year contract. It was at that point the Nats cut ties with him.

By: pdowdy83

pdowdy83 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 02:50:18 +0000

Natslady is a bit off. He didn’t have a say in the length of his contract as he was arbitration eligible. He was simply non-tendered. The Nationals were vague about why that is how it went down but in a game against the Rays this year as soon as Peralta was brought into the game Davey Johnson had the umpires check his glove and when the umpires did he was ejected.

Davey said some guys mentioned Peralta may have been doctoring balls. I do not have any other information other than maybe the team knew he was doing it and was a 34 year old who just had a break out season and decided they would go in another direction.

By: raysfan1

raysfan1 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:26:07 +0000

…and even more so when they win another pennant and a WS title!

By: raysfan1

raysfan1 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:24:54 +0000

Except to the greedy or delusional of course.

By: indaburg

indaburg — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:14:21 +0000

For the record, I did not thumbs you down, natslady. I was honestly curious why you thought that and I’m not going to disrespect your opinion after you gave it. (Don’t pay much attention to thumbs up or down. Trollers gonna troll.)

By: natslady

natslady — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:45:34 +0000

Agree. It will be interesting to see if other teams do the same. Don’t see much downside for either party.

By: mqcarpenter

mqcarpenter — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:31:40 +0000

This was brilliant on both parts. Reasonable price and if he starts to peeter out you leave the options.

By: larrytsg

larrytsg — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:18:20 +0000

This is similar to the mutual (team?) options that Tim Wakefieldand the Red Sox had. Basically Wakefield had a series of one year contracts at $4 million that were renewable, or had team (or was it mutual?) options for the same $4 million price tag. They ran with him like that for a number of years. Makes sense for an older pitcher…. pay him a reasomable amount of money until it just doesn’t make sense anymore. And guys like Peralta gotta love the idea of getting another $2.5 million payday. Where else are you going to get paid like that?

By: natslady

natslady — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:07:20 +0000

I love the down thumbs. You asked a question. Peralta was a marginal guy who had one full season in the majors (2007). He bounced around the minors and several teams. So even though he had a good year in 2010, the Nats only offered him one year, and he wanted more. Them’s the facts. His suspension is also a fact.

By: natslady

natslady — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:41:58 +0000

He asked for too much. He was offered one year but demanded two (he was 34 at the time, and a middle reliever coming of his best season, at that point.). Also, there was suspicion about how he achieved his results, suspicion which was well-founded.

By: indaburg

indaburg — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:23:27 +0000

Me too!

By: indaburg

indaburg — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:17:14 +0000

What reasons? I’m curious and haven’t heard other reasons.

By: gibbyfan

gibbyfan — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:10:53 +0000

Gotta love the Rays and the handful of other underdogs that somehow have enough ability/competence/whatever to hang in there against the fat cats –Would be overjoyed to see them win that division.

By: natslady

natslady — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:08:01 +0000

Peralta wasn’t on the “scrap heap.” If you only look at his stats, he did a good job and was worth re-signing. There were other reasons he was released.

By: indaburg

indaburg — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:41:02 +0000

An update from the same source Gleeman used:

2013: $3M
2014: $3M
2015: Team option, $2.5M, no buyout
2016: Team option, $2.5M, no buyout
2017: Team option, $2.5M, no buyout

No incentives or award bonuses.

By: yankeepunk3000

yankeepunk3000 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:33:05 +0000

I’m not a huge fan of player or team options…but I LOVE options that are picked up on incentives…so how are the extra 3 years going to work? Is it just a team option or if he pitches 50 innings it gets picked up?

By: Jeremy T

Jeremy T — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:31:29 +0000

Wow, the Rays really like their team options. I’d have a hard time seeing a reliever who’s already 37 being good enough for the Rays to exercise those options, but it’s a really nice safety net for Tampa.