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Giants’ negotiations with Angel Pagan and Marco Scutaro are “mired in molasses”

Nov 28, 2012, 10:15 AM EST

Angel Pagan AP AP

Giants general manager Brian Sabean has made it clear that he’d like to re-sign both Angel Pagan and Marco Scutaro, but Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle writes that negotiations are “mired in the molasses of this offseason’s player movement.”

Sabean told Schulman that he’s not close to a deal with either free agent, calling it “just the nature of doing business these days.”

According to Schulman it’s more likely that San Francisco will re-sign Scutaro, who’s older and in less demand than Pagan.

  1. SOBEIT - Nov 28, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    This is to be expected. If the Giants approached them with an over the top $$ figure and years, they might have incentive to sign right away with the Giants. But considering the market strategies today, even if the Giants approached them with an outrageous figure, they might still go and shop that number around as leverage to get either more money from another club or the Giants to poney up more. Just the nature of FA when the player has “options”…which they now both have after putting up career numbers with the Giants and winning a ring.

    The Giants priority is to give the $$ to Posey extension, starting pitchers, and bullpen. I doubt they compete in a bidding war for Pagan in years he wants…and hopefully Scutaro will resign for a reasonable number, but still a sizable raise…just not more than 2-3 years. Wilson might be gone, so it looks like bullpen by commitee again and Romo technically as the closer. But I have a feeling the Giants are moving away from the exclusive closer role and the $$$ associated with that position.

  2. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Nov 28, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Victorino and Torres are both free agents, and more or less bookend Pagan in terms of talent. He is not the only game in town. I’m sure they would like to have him back, but it is not critical.

    • brooklynboy48 - Nov 29, 2012 at 3:48 PM

      Torres sucks, proved it in NY last year. Victorino didn’t show much more than Torres. Giants need to resign Pagan.

  3. blabidibla - Nov 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Hard to argue with success. Sabean has been doing a great job of piecing together the right mix of undervalued vets and home grown talent. He’s let the overvalued walk away to become someone elses problem.

    I would personally love to see Pagan out in center for a few more years, but not at superstar $$. He’s not a superstar.

    • ezthinking - Nov 28, 2012 at 11:09 AM

      cough – Huff – cough

      • thomas2727 - Nov 28, 2012 at 11:19 AM

        It’s pretty easy to overlook Sabean’s missteps with two World Series Rings the past three years.

        He has definitely had some bad other than Zito contracts.

        Aaron Rowand comes to mind. I will give him a pass on Freddy Sanchez and Edgar Renteria based on their performances in the 2010 World Series.

        As many have said Pagan is a nice player but the deal he reportedly wants will carry a larger amount of risk than I am guessing the Giants want to take.

        I am a little surprised there has not been more movement with Scutaro. I would be surprised if something does not get done soon. Seems like a 2 for 12 range. With an option for a 3rd year.

      • blabidibla - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:44 PM

        Cough- World Series Champions…again. -cough

  4. sisqsage - Nov 28, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Pagan wants to cash in on a WS appearance and ring, pure and simple.
    It’s his last chance at a big contract.
    So somebody will overpay and it probably won’t be Sabean.
    Victorino might actually be a better player in a rebound year in 2013 at a cheaper price.
    Scutaro’s deal is much more likely to get done (37 years old, not much time left as a starter).
    Freddy Sanchez will be offered a minor league deal by somebody. It will be interesting to see if he has anything left physically.
    Wilson is out of his mind if he thinks he is getting tendered after two TJ surgeries. He only comes back to the bay at a much reduced price. They didn’t even need him anyway in 2012. It’s time to see what Hembree can do.

    • thomas2727 - Nov 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

      I saw Hembree in an AFL game on tv. He still looked raw to me.

      I heard many Giants fans stating their concern of Romo closing for a full season. The potential of the increased workload since he throws so many sliders.

      Freddy Sanchez seems like he will never be able to throw again. And his bat is not productive enough to be a DH. Any deal Freddy gets will be with the risk that his arm could go at any moment.

  5. duluthbuttonhut - Nov 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    That title freaks me out. I was just reading (and telling anyone that would listen) about the Great Molasses Flood of 1919. Well played Gleeman, well played.

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