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	<title>Comments on: Giants re-sign Angel Pagan to four-year, $40 million deal</title>
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		<title>By: Brinke</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/angel-pagan-close-to-re-signing-with-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-407098</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brinke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;re right.  I&#039;d want to sign Hairston just so we didn&#039;t have to pitch to him. Ever. Again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re right.  I&#8217;d want to sign Hairston just so we didn&#8217;t have to pitch to him. Ever. Again.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex K</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/angel-pagan-close-to-re-signing-with-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-407057</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Ari. He&#039;s a much better player than Huff and he&#039;s younger. This has a good chance of not being a horrible deal. It&#039;s better than paying Bourn $90 million for 5 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Ari. He&#8217;s a much better player than Huff and he&#8217;s younger. This has a good chance of not being a horrible deal. It&#8217;s better than paying Bourn $90 million for 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Collins</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/angel-pagan-close-to-re-signing-with-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-407014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 02:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two years younger and twice as good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years younger and twice as good.</p>
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		<title>By: ezthinking</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ezthinking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, my bad.  It&#039;s Rowand all over again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my bad.  It&#8217;s Rowand all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: ezthinking</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/angel-pagan-close-to-re-signing-with-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-406949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ezthinking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s worse.  Twice as long, Twice the dough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worse.  Twice as long, Twice the dough.</p>
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		<title>By: chc4</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/angel-pagan-close-to-re-signing-with-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-406899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chc4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 23:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4 years? This won&#039;t end well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 years? This won&#8217;t end well.</p>
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		<title>By: recoveringcubsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[recoveringcubsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cubs win!  Cubs win!

Dammit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cubs win!  Cubs win!</p>
<p>Dammit.</p>
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		<title>By: skerney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skerney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Gary Brown isn&#039;t ready to hit major league pitching next year, like by September, he&#039;s probably a bust. He&#039;s a 24 yo first rounder with 2+ seasons in the minors. If he opens in Fresno he has to hit well, if he opens in AA the the Giants have a problem. There is no 2-3 years about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Gary Brown isn&#8217;t ready to hit major league pitching next year, like by September, he&#8217;s probably a bust. He&#8217;s a 24 yo first rounder with 2+ seasons in the minors. If he opens in Fresno he has to hit well, if he opens in AA the the Giants have a problem. There is no 2-3 years about it.</p>
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		<title>By: cameltoehoe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cameltoehoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he&#039;s truly gonna follow in Aubrey Huff&#039;s footsteps then the next step is shagging Bubba The Love Sponge&quot;&#039;s wife a la Hulk Hogan!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he&#8217;s truly gonna follow in Aubrey Huff&#8217;s footsteps then the next step is shagging Bubba The Love Sponge&#8221;&#8216;s wife a la Hulk Hogan!</p>
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		<title>By: losangelesfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[losangelesfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: sisqsage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sisqsage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t anything like Huff, who admitted he came back in 2011 out of shape. Contrary to what some believe, Pagan&#039;s .288 avg. was not a career best. He hit .290 for the Mets with over 500 AB and before that it was .300-plus in a breakout year. So his 2012 stats were not an outlier.His team-record 15 triples were mostly at AT&amp;T, which proves that is the best park for his style of offense - a gap hitter and good base stealer.
Some reports after the World Series said he could command up to $14 mil a year, so this is a relative bargain for a team player in the prime of his career.
Brown is simply not ready, so you pretty much have to keep Pagan.
With the money that was saved on this, maybe they can throw some love to Hairston as a left fielder. I have always admired his consistent play and decent power. Plus, he&#039;s always killed the Giants, so that would be one less headache to deal with. Blanco is a good fourth outfielder option for defense and a spot start. He slumped too much to be an everyday player when Bochey gave him a shot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t anything like Huff, who admitted he came back in 2011 out of shape. Contrary to what some believe, Pagan&#8217;s .288 avg. was not a career best. He hit .290 for the Mets with over 500 AB and before that it was .300-plus in a breakout year. So his 2012 stats were not an outlier.His team-record 15 triples were mostly at AT&amp;T, which proves that is the best park for his style of offense &#8211; a gap hitter and good base stealer.<br />
Some reports after the World Series said he could command up to $14 mil a year, so this is a relative bargain for a team player in the prime of his career.<br />
Brown is simply not ready, so you pretty much have to keep Pagan.<br />
With the money that was saved on this, maybe they can throw some love to Hairston as a left fielder. I have always admired his consistent play and decent power. Plus, he&#8217;s always killed the Giants, so that would be one less headache to deal with. Blanco is a good fourth outfielder option for defense and a spot start. He slumped too much to be an everyday player when Bochey gave him a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: norcaldeportes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[norcaldeportes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good signing. If Gary Brown is ready for the bigs in 2 or 3 years, I could see the Giants then moving Pagan to Left or Right Field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good signing. If Gary Brown is ready for the bigs in 2 or 3 years, I could see the Giants then moving Pagan to Left or Right Field.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eh. It&#039;s not nearly as bad as Huff.

I think it actually has a pretty good chance to work out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh. It&#8217;s not nearly as bad as Huff.</p>
<p>I think it actually has a pretty good chance to work out.</p>
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		<title>By: csquared95</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[csquared95]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://csquared95.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/giants-re-sign-angel-pagan-to-four-year-40-million-deal/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Me, myself and the universe&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://csquared95.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/giants-re-sign-angel-pagan-to-four-year-40-million-deal/" rel="nofollow">Me, myself and the universe</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: qcubed3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qcubed3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have faith in Pagan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have faith in Pagan</p>
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		<title>By: kardshark1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kardshark1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is good for a few reasons, but mostly:

1.  They won&#039;t sign Victorino
2.  They won&#039;t sign Ichiro
3.  They won&#039;t sign Michael Bourn

Whether you like Pagan for this amount or not, it&#039;s definitely a win-win that they won&#039;t waste money on the 3 players above.

Also... I guess this means Gary Brown&#039;s only purpose is trade bait.  He&#039;s not a good enough hitter to justify playing in RF or LF, with most of his value being his range and speed in CF.  Now he&#039;s blocked for 4 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good for a few reasons, but mostly:</p>
<p>1.  They won&#8217;t sign Victorino<br />
2.  They won&#8217;t sign Ichiro<br />
3.  They won&#8217;t sign Michael Bourn</p>
<p>Whether you like Pagan for this amount or not, it&#8217;s definitely a win-win that they won&#8217;t waste money on the 3 players above.</p>
<p>Also&#8230; I guess this means Gary Brown&#8217;s only purpose is trade bait.  He&#8217;s not a good enough hitter to justify playing in RF or LF, with most of his value being his range and speed in CF.  Now he&#8217;s blocked for 4 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Brinke</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/angel-pagan-close-to-re-signing-with-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-406807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brinke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[quality guy, plays all out.  The OF of Blanco-Pagan-Pence did OK for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quality guy, plays all out.  The OF of Blanco-Pagan-Pence did OK for us.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good for Pagan...seems like a good guy, plays hard and all that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Pagan&#8230;seems like a good guy, plays hard and all that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ezthinking</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ezthinking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s Huff all over again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Huff all over again.</p>
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