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Mariners interested in Dodgers shortstop Dee Gordon

Dec 4, 2012, 10:25 PM EDT

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MLB Network’s Peter Gammons reported Monday that the Dodgers are shopping young shortstop Dee Gordon. Now at least one suitor can be identified.

According to Scott Miller of CBS Sports, the Mariners are going “hard” after the 24-year-old speedster, who has tallied 56 steals in 143 MLB games. Other teams have likely also been calling.

Gordon isn’t much of a hitter and the M’s already have a light-hitting shortstop in Brendan Ryan, but perhaps a trade would be part of a grander vision.

Gordon won’t be arbitration-eligible until 2015. Ryan, meanwhile, can become a free agent next winter.

  1. sknut - Dec 4, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    Seems the M’s are desperate to make some noise. they have been linked to many guys in all shapes and forms

  2. melsh13 - Dec 4, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    He hits about .200. Seems like a perfect fit for the M’s.

    • mashoaf - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:43 AM

      As long as they can give up a good pitching prospect for him.

  3. jdd428 - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:52 AM

    Isn’t much of a hitter? Isn’t it too soon to know for sure?!

    Sure he only hit .220 in 330 ABs in an injury-plagued season in 2012 at age 24, but he did hit .304 in 224 ABs after his midseason promotion in 2011. He’s hit .302 in his minor league career, including .327 at AAA.

    I’m not saying he’s a great hitter by any means. I just think it’s way to early with far too little MLB evidence to say he’s “not much of a hitter” yet. He’s very fast, and he still could be serviceable to solid with the bat.

    • paperlions - Dec 5, 2012 at 8:13 AM

      The minors count as evidence too don’t they? He never hit in the minors either. No power, doesn’t walk, doesn’t even play average defense at this point. His only plus skill is stealing bases, but he needs to get on base more to take advantage of that.

      • ryanrockzzz - Dec 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM

        umm….he hit over .300 in the minor’s before. He’s a young player, you have to give him a full season, and see what he’s all about about, and then judge. The one cautionary thing is that LA is already looking to dump him…why would they want to get rid of a young player if they thought he could really produce.

      • paperlions - Dec 5, 2012 at 9:33 AM

        Yeah, in the PCL, where the league average players hits over .300 with 20 HRs. Gordon’s wRC+ (weighted by league where 100 is average) for stints with > 200 PAs has been 129, 115, 89, 97, 94, 58….he doesn’t walk and has shown no ability to do so at any level, he’s a slap hitter with no power at all, and he doesn’t field his position well (as many Dodger’s fans have pointed out, Hanley isn’t actually a defensive downgrade from Gordon).

        Sure, he could improve…but there isn’t any evidence that the skills are in there.

      • jdd428 - Dec 5, 2012 at 10:48 AM

        Ryan — I think they’d look to move him, not as a red flag, but because they got Hanley in a deal and they’d rather play him at SS because he a major improvement offensively. If they don’t have a spot for Gordon now, he’s an asset they cannot use on the field, so they should see if they can get something of use in exchange for him from a team that actually can use him. It’s not in their best interest to keep him kicking around AAA if that only stunts his potential growth.

        Despite the negativity here, I think Gordon is an offensive upgrade over Ryan at SS. Ryan is definitely better defensively.

      • jdd428 - Jan 8, 2013 at 1:23 AM

        What do you mean he never hit in the minors? Check your facts – career minor league average is .302.

      • paperlions - Jan 8, 2013 at 7:13 AM

        I did check the facts. Avg isn’t a particularly good measure especially when you ignore context. A wRC+ of 100 is average. Since 2010 Gordon hasn’t put up a wRC+ of 100 at any level. His on-base skills are poor despite his speed and he has no power. He’s a non-prospect. His defense is below average and so is the bat.

      • jdd428 - Jan 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM

        Your original comment reply said he never hit in the minors. Batting average simply shows he clearly did hit. And his defense is not below average, it’s decent – he has great range. He was the Dodgers top prospect for multiple years. You’re clearly just a Gordon hater, so there’s no point in me continuing this discussion.

      • paperlions - Jan 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM

        The .302 average shows nothing of the sort because it is context free. It ignores the fact that he often hit in the high offense environment of Albuquerque and that he hit against minor league defenders, who are not nearly as good as MLB ones. He doesn’t walk or have any power. There is no evidence at all that he can hit.

        His entire time with the Dodgers he has been a horrible defender.

  4. mojosmagic - Dec 5, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Loria is interested in anybody that comes cheap. If he can play baseball that’s a bonus.

  5. swu32733 - Dec 5, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Wow. A younger version of Ryan. You have to give Trader Jack his due credit.

    • paperlions - Dec 5, 2012 at 11:17 AM

      Except that Gordon can’t field or hit.

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