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Red Sox agree to three-year contract with Shane Victorino

Dec 4, 2012, 5:29 PM EDT

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UPDATE: Alex Speier of says it’s a done deal. Boston has agreed to a three-year contract with Victorino.


Just a few hours after Jerry Crasnick of called the Indians “a prime suitor” for Shane Victorino, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports that the Red Sox are “frontrunners” for Victorino by making him a three-year, $38 million offer.

I suppose one team being the frontrunner doesn’t preclude another team from being “a” prime suitor, but whatever the case it now seems clear that Victorino is going to get a big multi-year contract at age 31 and coming off a season in which he hit just .255 with a .704 OPS.

Of course, Angel Pagan is 31 years old and just got a four-year, $40 million deal to re-sign with the Giants. Pagan was much better than Victorino in 2012, but combined during the past three seasons Pagan has a .749 OPS and Victorino has a .766 OPS.

One big difference is that the Red Sox presumably would play Victorino is a corner spot, assuming they don’t trade Jacoby Ellsbury, but as early-30s center fielders with .750-OPS bats they’re potentially pretty similar. Unless you’re convinced Victorino showed signs of simply being washed up down the stretch, in which case $38 million is pretty scary.

  1. uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    At 3 years and $38MM the Red Sox should be the only runners not just the front runners. Especially since it was 2007 when Victorino played any significant time playing right-field.

    • andazola77com - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:22 PM

      Do any of u remeber the ’04 team,I do,players like Walker,Mueller,Nixon,Mirabelli,not ur most famouse players,but just hardnosed ball players!all they did was play hard every game!i see this team ’13,shaping out to b the same way!

      • Cris E - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:41 PM


      • Reflex - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:59 PM

        I seem to remember that team also having a superstar in Manny, an 8 years younger Ortiz, a not quite out of his prime Varitek, and a in his prime Damon. Who on the current 2013 squad replaces them?

        And thats before we get to the fact that the 2004 Red Sox had quite possibly one of the top one-two punches ever in a rotation together in Schilling and Pedro. Who in the 2013 rotation remotely resembles those two in 2004?

      • ezthinking - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

        Where’s Manny for this squad? You know the guy that hit .308/.397/.613 for a 1.009 ops with 44 2B and 43 HR and 130 RBI. Is Ortiz going to put up his ”04 numbers of 47 2B, 41 HR, 139 RBI .301/.380/.603 for a .983 ops?

        Oh, it was Scott Hatteberg that made the A’s a perennial contender, not Hudson, Mulder, Zito, Giambi, Tejada, Chavez, and Dye.

        My bad.

      • ezthinking - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM

        Reflex, you must type fast than me.

  2. crispybasil - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    I had hope that Nick Cafardo was being his usual self by “reporting” this, until Rosenthal confirmed it.

    • pinkfloydprism - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:58 PM

      I think Fenway is going to be empty next season… 😦

      • crisisjunky - Dec 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

        no, there will be seats in it. :b

      • pinkfloydprism - Dec 5, 2012 at 10:17 AM

        That is about it :)

  3. sportsnut101 - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    He better run to his agent office n sign it with blood to make sure it’s done

    Who else would give him that Didn’t the redsox just trade away high salary on dumb move with Crawford

    • pipkin42 - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      Yeah, this would seem to be an odd move, given that they just had to dump Crawford, but at least it’d be only three years. If you need/want an outfielder I’d rather have Victorino for 3/38 than Josh Hamilton on a six-year deal or whatever he ends up getting.

  4. poprox13 - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    Ugh, how can they even think Victorino is worth that much for 3 years?

  5. uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    If this happens the way it’s being reported that will be 4 signings for the Red Sox in the last few days and all 4 have been overpays and/or for to many years.

    • paperlions - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:47 PM

      well, yeah….that is how FA works and why adding wins through FA is the worst way to go because it is the most expensive and most risky. Besides Soria signing for 2 yrs and $8M (and possibly Haren, who has chronic back problems and now a hip issue, who signed a 1-yr make-good deal), has there been another signing that seemed like it wasn’t an over-pay?

      • uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM

        Not sure, but it’s one thing to overpay for a player it’s another thing to overpay for a player that you are basically going to platoon or in Napoli’s case overpay to have him play a position that defensively he isn’t that good at and hasn’t played as often as his primary position catching. That’s just my opinion.

      • paperlions - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

        I agree that the players the RS have signed thus far are a strange fit for their needs and with each other….the combination of Ross, Napoli, and Gomes isn’t a particularly good fit….adding in Victorino is even weirder….especially when you are doing it all via early FA, where overpaying rules the day (by definition, since you were willing to offer more than anyone else was).

      • proudlycanadian - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM

        I sure hope that this story is true.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM

        proudly, where have you been? I need you to back me up on some of these comments.

  6. tfbuckfutter - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    As a Red Sox fan this off season has been very disappointing.

    As a self-loathing Red Sox fan this off season has been pretty funny.

    • prosourcetalk - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM

      I feel the same way!

    • hockeyflow33 - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:31 PM

      It’s good to get back to our roots. I almost look forward to being able to spread out in the bleachers again.

  7. thebadguyswon - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    LOL….Does Cherington have any idea what he is doing?

  8. tashkalucy - Dec 4, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    It has to be the new TV money…….

    The Phillies and Dodgers gave up on him in a span of 2 months.

    • paperlions - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:16 PM

      Yeah, but each team still only gets 25 roster spots…right?

  9. Ari Collins - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM

    Sounds like a pretty good deal. Perhaps a slight overpay per season ($10MM was the price being thrown around), but keeping it at 3 years helps an awful lot.

    Napoli, Victorino, and Any Pitcher are already an upgrade over what they got from those positions last year, and at a fraction of the cost of Gonzalez, Crawford, and Beckett.

    Plus, Victorino was the only FA OF that would have meant not giving up 10-15% of their draft budget.

  10. uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

    MLB TradeRumors is reporting the Sox/Victorino signing is a done deal 3 years/$37.5MM

  11. uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    It looks like with this signing the Red Sox have addressed their outfield for the 2013 season. I don’t think an outfield of: Jonny Gomes/??? in left field, Ellsbury in center field and Victorino in right field is going to strike fear in the hearts of the Sox opponents this year. That’s just my opinion.

    • kardshark1 - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:52 PM

      “…strike fear in the hearts of the Sox opponents this year.”

      You will be lucky if his line is .280/.330/.400. And that’s in year number 1 of his 3 year deal. It will most likely get worse from there.

  12. frobaggins - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    they got no clue what they doing…this coming from a die hard sox fan

    they lost me at not getting tommy hanson who was dealt for a set-up man

  13. poprox13 - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:46 PM


  14. fanofevilempire - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Saux will have last place locked up before x-mas……………

    can’t blame Bobby anymore………….

  15. malvord13 - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    I don’t get why the sox didnt go after myers, why go after old washed up guys, I’m so mad. This is how we got ourselves into this position last year, by paying way to much money for old players

  16. uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    I will be very interested to see what Cody Ross winds up signing for, when he signs. Just my opinion but I’m going to guess it’s going to be for less then $12.5MM per if it’s for a 3 year deal.

  17. escapingexile - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    It seems that with the house cleaning at the end of the season that Boston management learned a valuable lesson. Boston has definitely pulled back on the reins and are making much smarter business decisions. I think this signing definitely puts them over the top.

  18. weaselpuppy - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    On it’s own, it’s not really that bad. Torii Hunter, albeit a better oplayer in every facet except speed, got that same deal, just a year shorter, at age 37.

    On the whole, adding Napoli + Victorino to the lineup makes then an average offensive team, one also that isn’t very young….the bigger issue is that their pitching is wretched…even signing someone AND trading Salty for a pitcher just makes them an average staff….85 wins indeed….

  19. xpensivewinos - Dec 4, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Hanson has chronic shoulder and back problems. The Red Sox are full up on injured and unreliable pitchers.

    I don’t mind the Victorino signing………especially if they plan on trading Ellsbury (who they would be foolish to sign to the zillions Boras will be asking). He hits from both sides of the plate, plays solid defense, can steal a base and he always plays hard. Victorino and Pedroia give them two grinders at the top of the lineup who can help generate runs.

    Time well tell what happens at short, with the rotation and what shakes out behind the plate, but i think it’s coming together.

    • Francisco (FC) - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:12 PM

      I think Victorino should stop pretending that he can hit from both sides of the plate. For a while now it hasn’t really helped.

  20. capesouth - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    I dont like it. Would rather have Ross than him. I understand they are all about good clubhouse guys but there is a point where you go to far. They have a better manager, guys like Napoli and Gomes added to the mix, as well as Pedroia and Ortiz. The clubhouse is fine. Spend the money on something else or just save it. Victorina is not worth that much and he isn’t adding a ton to their potential. Cody Ross was a huge bright spot last year. Would rather they spend 39 million on him.

  21. uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    So now the agreed contract details have been revised Victorino is the Red Sox for 3 years and $39MM not the $37.5 as was originally reported.

  22. uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:33 PM

    Just food for thought had the Red Sox kept Carl Crawford he would have been owed for the next 5 years including this years just about $100M. With these 4 signings Napoli, Victorino, Gomes and David Ross the Red Sox have effectively spent that entire amount. To be exact $95MM of the $100MM. The question is are those 4 signings the very best way the Red Sox could have spent that $100MM?

  23. soxfan1966 - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    It doesn’t exactly inspire the cheers that the dual acquisitions of Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford brought in just a couple of years ago, but at least these three signings (Gomes, Napoli, and now Victorino) are not terribly expensive and are not long-term. Again, not a truly terrible deal.

    Cheringtin isn’t exactly making the most inspired of moves, but at least he is filling all the needs in a productive manner given the paucity of the market this off-season. And I’m glad that this will probably put the Hamilton rumors to bed once and for all.

    Now, to fill in the back end of the rotation and re-sign Atchison and Hill to fill the bullpen…

  24. xpensivewinos - Dec 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    uyf1950 –

    I think we somehow need to separate “the best way to spend the money” from how the pieces help the team overall. All of the money is crazy, so rationalizing relative insanity is going to get us no place. And, the Red Sox have a printing press for money so it’s sort of like monopoly money in the grand scheme of things.

    However, if you ask me would I trade Carl Crawford (based on what we saw of him for two years in Boston in terms of tangibles and intangibles) for Mike Napoli, Shane Victorino, David Ross and Jonny Gomes, I would say yes.

    Just my opinion, I could be wrong……..

    • uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 7:16 PM

      My friend that’s not exactly what I was asking. What I was asking is you you had $100MM to spend this off season so far and could spend it on any one or more players for any length of time. Would those 4 players (Victorino, Gomes, Napoli and Ross) have been your choice? OR for example would you have chosen to spend all or part of it on say this group: Edwin Jackson, Nick Swisher or some other FA’s. That was really what I was asking

      • uyf1950 - Dec 4, 2012 at 7:17 PM

        correction: “if” you had $100MM……

      • Ari Collins - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM

        I’m not sure that those 4 would have been the absolute best to spend $100MM on. However, Jackson and Swisher would not have filled as many holes as the 4 they got, and their current plan appears to be to spread the money around and field a competitive team without hamstringing themselves or blocking any of their young players, who are likely to arrive by September.

        What’s more, getting Ross and Victorino allows them to trade Saltalamacchia and/or Ellsbury, so we’ll have to wait and see if they can fill any SP/SS holes through trades before we judge these moves in a vacuum.

  25. edelmanfanclub - Dec 4, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Ive defended Boston on all their signings because I don’t think any have been that bad. But this is not a good one. I don’t mind Victorino but why 3 years/ 39 mill? He should have gotten 2 years/ 20 million. .255/.321/.383 is not a great slash. He’s got the 39 stolen bases and good defense but I wanted Boston to find someone with more power to play RF. If Boston is banking on him and Nap replicating their 2011 seasons (Both posted 5+ WAR), they aren’t going to be happy, but i’ll take a 2-3 WAR season from them.

    Still not the worst lineup, we may finish 3rd or 4th.

    1. Ellsbury, CF
    2. Victorino, RF
    3. Pedroia, 2B
    4. Ortiz, DH
    5. Napoli, 1B
    6. Middlebrooks, 3B
    7. Gomes/Nava/Kalish, LF
    8. Lavaranway/Ross, C
    9. Iglesias/ Ciriaco, SS

    Trade Salty for pitching, we need a 5th starter.

    • soxfan1966 - Dec 4, 2012 at 7:24 PM

      There’s also Ellsbury’s long-term future to consider. At least the Sox can slide Victorino into CF when (not if) Ellsbury leaves for more money.

      I also think that perhaps the Sox can get their hands on a 5th starter without trading Saltalamacchia, as long as we can stomach the likes of a Kyle Lohse or a Franklin Morales in the rotation.

      Still, at least these guys are only locked in for two or three years — gives time for the farm to develop. I anticipate that guys like Bradley, Bogaerts, and Cecchini will be ready to fill in the lineup holes within the next two or three seasons, and there are some very live arms like Barnes, Ranaudo, and Owens right behind them.

      This will be Theo’s “Bridge Year”. Probably be more exciting to catch games at Portland and Pawtucket than Fenway, but I’ll still go to take in some pre-game brews at the Beer Works.

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