Comments on: Report: Indians offered Shane Victorino $44 million

By: dcfan4life

dcfan4life — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 04:38:24 +0000

Werths contract was a statement contract. At the time a last place team, 2 years ago mind you, they signaled to all future free agents that the Nats will spend. He isnt worth his contract by any means, but he was pretty good this year and now the Nats are going to be perrenial contenders. And free agents are signing with the Nats, especially pitchers. The contract fullfilled its purpose.

By: motherscratcher23

motherscratcher23 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:34:24 +0000

You guys are ridiculous. Courses in baseball scouting? Give me a break. Mark Shapiro has forgotten more about baseball scouting in the last week than you’ll ever know in your life.

And his quote was misinterpreted. Anyone who actually read it knows this.

By: tashkalucy

tashkalucy — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:12:13 +0000

They’ve been doing this for years.

When’s the last time they brought home the bacon?

Maybe it would help if Shapiro and Antonetti got away from their computers and their workout room, and took some courses in basic baseball scouting, the fans would be the better for it.

By: tashkalucy

tashkalucy — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:10:24 +0000

I have never heard the president or GM of a franchise from one of the four major professional sports, tell potential ticket holders that if they shouldn’t be buying tickets just in anticipation of the team winning.

All Shapiro did was validate what every player and players agent in MLB knows – the Indians don’t care about winning, they’re just in a never-ending rebuild – taking the TV money and the revenue sharing money and turning a profit n a team that has lost over 90 games in 3 of the last 4 seasons, something never done in the over 100 year history of the Cleveland baseball franchise.

Shapiro is a loser. And he and Antonetti are as inept as any MLB front office in the last 50-60 years.

By: blantoncollier

blantoncollier — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:15:28 +0000

Dont think for one minute the report is correct. Its very Tribe-ish to let it slip it later–see we were in the game. We tried.

They are like the old Avis commercials–we try harder…but they always let Hertz beat them.

By: mpic92

mpic92 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:05:25 +0000

I do think that quote from Shapiro is being misinterpreted though. It’s not exactly encouraging, but they are just trying to level some of their less-realistic fans expectations in the short-term. But you are right, it doesn’t help.

Encouraging for us Sox fans to know that he wanted to come to Boston over another deal with more $ and years, even if Cleveland isn’t exactly wonderland.

By: hammyofdoom

hammyofdoom — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:02:56 +0000

TOTALLY forgot about that quote, good call

By: randygnyc

randygnyc — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:01:59 +0000

Hammy- it doesn’t help that the indian’s brass has gone on the record saying it doesn’t matter if you win or lose, but rather, how you play the game.

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:26:24 +0000

hey, you seen the #’s on those TV deals?
when you think about it these contracts are not as bad as 100m contracts…..
remember the Nats contract to Worth last year……..

oh boy!

By: hammyofdoom

hammyofdoom — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:25:28 +0000

Well this makes me feel a little better that the Red Sox got him for 3/37: i’d much prefer a few extra mil a year for a shorter deal than committing 4 years to him. I can only imagine what Nick Swisher is going to get if Angel Pagan and Shane Victorino were looking at 4 years at 40+ million dollars. It’s a damn shame that the Indians are still having a hard time getting free agents, can’t make them feel good being shunned like that

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:24:04 +0000

Charlie Sheen said he would never play for the Indians again.

By: Lukehart80

Lukehart80 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:23:12 +0000

I kind of liked the idea at 3 years and $30M, but not for 4 and $44M. Knowing they were willing to go this high on Victorino will just make it more disappointing when they end up not signing anyone of consequence instead.

By: thebadguyswon

thebadguyswon — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:22:18 +0000

These teams have taken the TV money and gone batshit crazy.