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	<title>Comments on: Scott Boras still trying to entice Tigers on Rafael Soriano</title>
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		<title>By: jm91rs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jm91rs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m shocked that the Yankees didn&#039;t sign him after Boras said &quot;no team with a 42 year old closer has ever won the world series&quot;.   I really thought he had them there for 10 million a year for the next 9 years (just before Soriano himself would turn 42).  Maybe they countered with &quot;no team with Rafael Soriano has ever won a world series.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked that the Yankees didn&#8217;t sign him after Boras said &#8220;no team with a 42 year old closer has ever won the world series&#8221;.   I really thought he had them there for 10 million a year for the next 9 years (just before Soriano himself would turn 42).  Maybe they countered with &#8220;no team with Rafael Soriano has ever won a world series.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: purnellmeagrejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purnellmeagrejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seeems Soriano can join the Juan Gonzalez list of Boras players that made huge contractual mistakes by turning down more money than they would get elsewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seeems Soriano can join the Juan Gonzalez list of Boras players that made huge contractual mistakes by turning down more money than they would get elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: edelmanfanclub</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edelmanfanclub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t the first time or the last time Scott Boras has cost a client money because he thinks he can get these ridiculous contracts from everyone. Saves are an overrated stat. No one will pay Soriano north of 13 million he declined from New York. Boras once told Varitek to decline arbitration guaranteeing him 10 million dollars, he had to settle for a 1 year 5 million dollar contract with a 3.5 million dollar player option for the 2nd year. Soriano will get a multiyear deal, but it&#039;ll be 8-11 million annually, not 13 million. If he opted out to get a multiyear deal, It will probably work. If he wanted a multiyear deal with an increase because of his season. It won&#039;t work, he was overpaid as a reliever and no one will overpay for him again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the first time or the last time Scott Boras has cost a client money because he thinks he can get these ridiculous contracts from everyone. Saves are an overrated stat. No one will pay Soriano north of 13 million he declined from New York. Boras once told Varitek to decline arbitration guaranteeing him 10 million dollars, he had to settle for a 1 year 5 million dollar contract with a 3.5 million dollar player option for the 2nd year. Soriano will get a multiyear deal, but it&#8217;ll be 8-11 million annually, not 13 million. If he opted out to get a multiyear deal, It will probably work. If he wanted a multiyear deal with an increase because of his season. It won&#8217;t work, he was overpaid as a reliever and no one will overpay for him again.</p>
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		<title>By: vallewho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vallewho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sounds nasty]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds nasty</p>
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		<title>By: ezthinking</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ezthinking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So why float the BS theory then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why float the BS theory then?</p>
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		<title>By: beelza</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beelza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a detroit fan I want the lone Tigers goal to be to win the world Series. I believe that this is the Mike Ilitch&#039;s goal. I don&#039;t care about payroll. I saw the big potato damn near give away the alds in Oakland and atleast one game in the bronx, and they paid him 9 million per year. Yes, I know that this was a sunk cost.  For me Tigers have to get at least one of Soriano or Sanchez. Watching Ilitch build his hockey dynasty has given me some insight as to how he contructs his baseball squads. In 2002, Ilitch had a virual All-Star team in the Wings-with one exception, goalie; Ilitch got the best goalie availvble, Hasek, and they won the Cup, he was the final piece. I think the closer position is akin to the goalie position. I think Ilitch brings Soriano. I bet DD is counting on and waiting for Soriano&#039;s market bubble to pop, bringing his price down. Soriano can distort the market the same way Hunter did, by really wanting to go to detroit. If true Tigers get some flex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a detroit fan I want the lone Tigers goal to be to win the world Series. I believe that this is the Mike Ilitch&#8217;s goal. I don&#8217;t care about payroll. I saw the big potato damn near give away the alds in Oakland and atleast one game in the bronx, and they paid him 9 million per year. Yes, I know that this was a sunk cost.  For me Tigers have to get at least one of Soriano or Sanchez. Watching Ilitch build his hockey dynasty has given me some insight as to how he contructs his baseball squads. In 2002, Ilitch had a virual All-Star team in the Wings-with one exception, goalie; Ilitch got the best goalie availvble, Hasek, and they won the Cup, he was the final piece. I think the closer position is akin to the goalie position. I think Ilitch brings Soriano. I bet DD is counting on and waiting for Soriano&#8217;s market bubble to pop, bringing his price down. Soriano can distort the market the same way Hunter did, by really wanting to go to detroit. If true Tigers get some flex.</p>
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		<title>By: genericcommenter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[genericcommenter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plus, closers are normally converted starters via the way of setup/middle relief, and they don&#039;t tend to be converted and acclimated that young. Young sluggers have always been hitting. For example, at 23 Soriano had started 84 games in pro baseball. Then he made another 200 or so relief appearances before closing regularly. It&#039;s rare that a quality 19 or 20 year pitcher has already been trained for that role.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, closers are normally converted starters via the way of setup/middle relief, and they don&#8217;t tend to be converted and acclimated that young. Young sluggers have always been hitting. For example, at 23 Soriano had started 84 games in pro baseball. Then he made another 200 or so relief appearances before closing regularly. It&#8217;s rare that a quality 19 or 20 year pitcher has already been trained for that role.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Pouliot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Pouliot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Shawn Chacon once saved 35 games with a 7.11 ERA. But then again, he was a grizzled veteran by that point.

I don&#039;t know exactly what you&#039;re asking me to prove, but I&#039;m pretty sure it will be impossible one way or another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Shawn Chacon once saved 35 games with a 7.11 ERA. But then again, he was a grizzled veteran by that point.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know exactly what you&#8217;re asking me to prove, but I&#8217;m pretty sure it will be impossible one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: legacybroken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[legacybroken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im sure Dave Dombrowski is getting lots of calls from  Heyman telling him he should sign Soriano.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sure Dave Dombrowski is getting lots of calls from  Heyman telling him he should sign Soriano.</p>
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		<title>By: angrycorgi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[angrycorgi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Boras is a disease.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Boras is a disease.</p>
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		<title>By: ezthinking</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ezthinking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And facts on your theory Matt?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And facts on your theory Matt?</p>
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