Comments on: The Mets are overplaying their hand with R.A. Dickey

By: mrchainbluelightning

mrchainbluelightning — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:05:14 +0000

Here’s an idea
The Mets keep Dickey for 3 more seasons
The Mets don’t make the playoffs in any of those seasons
Dickey retires

Let them keep Dickey and allow the above scenario to play out.

By: purnellmeagrejr

purnellmeagrejr — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:40:52 +0000

I’ve never understoood the “IF Player A (who has signed a very expensive contract and let everyone down) got that much then Player B should get at least that much. THese type of analogies should only work in instances where teams get reasonable value for the dollar spent. Oh and who’s Fat Mike?

By: mazblast

mazblast — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:48:35 +0000

The problem with the Mets’ “strategy” is that Dickey and his agent may in turn say, “OK, you don’t want to negotiate now, so we’re not going to negotiate at all”, and the Mets wind up with a draft pick or nothing at all.

By: jarathen

jarathen — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:06:56 +0000

I still cannot believe that there isn’t a package out there built around Bourjos and Conger for Dickey. Seems to me like the right pieces are there to make a trade. The Angels have a spare outfielder or two in Vernon Wells (ugh) and Kole Calhoun, and the Angels do have a bit of an overage in CF with Trout and Bourjos both. Part of Trout’s value is derived from his strong D in center, and shuffling him to left, as is being discussed, blunts that value somewhat. He’ll go to the corner sooner or later, but at 21, let him stick there for a few years.

By: stex52

stex52 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:57:33 +0000

I’m not sure what’s an overplay here. Dickey is a great pitcher this year and a classy guy, but he will certainly not be there when the Mets are good again. And he is under control for another year. If he is great again, you may pay big. If he loses a step, he is cheaper. If he holds a grudge, then make a qualifying offer and take a draft choice.

Their strategy (if it really is a strategy) seems OK.

By: phillyphreak

phillyphreak — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:52:17 +0000

I think it’s totally crazy to think Dickey would be worth Myers. The Royals would be banking on a 38 year old pitcher, coming off of the best season of his career, repeating that season (and then signing an extension at a reasonable rate, which is possible). Sure he could, and he’s been a good pitcher and knuckleball pitchers are different etc etc but Myers could be a really good player for the Royals. A player that would under team control for not much money for a long time. And if Dickey is worth Myers then that means the Royals see themselves as contenders in the next year or two, which in my opinion, is a little bit of a reach….

It would make more sense for the Royals to keep Myers and sign a free agent pitcher, maybe Edwin Jackson or something.

By: chill1184

chill1184 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:41:24 +0000

Jason Bay and Oliver Perez were the results of Omar Minaya’s “thinking” and if he was still in charge Dickey probably would’ve been traded for garbage already. For all we know Alderson could just be trolling everyone and for fuck sake it’s November it’s not like its the middle of March.

By: chill1184

chill1184 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:35:42 +0000

Anything original other than parroting Fat Mike?

By: narrabeen23

narrabeen23 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:31:00 +0000

the problem with the mets is that if you’re going to slow play this until Greinke is signed, then you need to keep quiet. You don’t reveal your asking price for Dickey in a trade until Greinke is signed and you tell Dickey’s camp that you want to discuss an extension but you are currently focused on free agency. Dickey should understand that because guy’s currently under contract shouldn’t be your first priority in the beginning stages of free agency.

So no. The Mets aren’t playing this one perfectly, what the Mets need to do is shut up (God Forbid)

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:14:58 +0000

The Mets HAVE to trade Dickey, they can’t give him30-45 mil. especially when they won’t
contend with the Nats for a few years.they need a young outfield and a bullpen help.

the Mets spent ALL the money they have on david w.

By: samu0034

samu0034 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:56:45 +0000

That actually sounds like a pretty darn good strategy. Whether I believe that’s actually the Mets’ motivation seems a little less likely, but either way it could definitely work out in their favor.

By: mrfloydpink

mrfloydpink — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:35:33 +0000

I hate it when I overplay my hand with my dickey.

By: jl9830

jl9830 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:06:52 +0000

No way; the Mets are playing this one perfectly. They know signing him to a reasonable extension is an option, but they are waiting for Greinke, and even Sanchez and Lohse, to be taken off the market. The teams that miss out on them will feel the heat and that’s when the best trade offer for Dickey will come. And if it doesn’t? Then you sign him. But the Mets haven’t overplayed this hand. Not even close- they’re playing this perfectly.

By: tuberippin

tuberippin — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 07:23:57 +0000

For as much of an opportunity as the Mets have afforded him, I would not blame R.A. Dickey whatsoever for taking the $5mil in 2013 and then hitting free agency. The Mets cannot afford to keep low-balling their best players. It looks especially bad when you contrast their decisions regarding players like Reyes, Wright, Dickey, etc. and the decisions they made in signing guys like Jason Bay and Oliver Perez to large deals in past seasons.

I think we all get that the Mets are under a (self-inflicted) financial strain, but they’re only further shooting themselves in the foot by behaving in such a fashion. Besides, they need all the rotation help they can get.

And yes, obviously Dickey is an old guy for a pitcher/Cy Young winner, but the knuckleball is a different beast. The fact that he won the NL Cy Young this past season speaks volumes about how much control he has over the pitch.

I get the feeling that the Mets are doing this with Zach Wheeler’s forthcoming rotation spot in mind.