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The Phillies might not be done

Dec 8, 2012, 5:32 PM EDT

After acquiring center fielder Ben Revere from the Twins on Thursday and third baseman Michael Young from the Rangers earlier today, Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports hears that Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro, Jr. might have a bigger trick up his sleeve in the days ahead.

Phillies fans better hope so, at least if they want to make a legitimate run in 2013. While Revere should do well in center field, they still need at least one more bat for their outfield, a set-up man in front of Jonathan Papelbon and a starter to supplement the loss of Vance Worley. Meanwhile, the Nationals have reloaded with center fielder Denard Span and right-hander Dan Haren while the Braves have added center fielder B.J. Upton. Reclaiming the National League East crown isn’t going to be easy.

  1. kvanhorn87 - Dec 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Add Hamilton, a back end starter and some bullpen help and back on top. Not sure they are all that far back as it may appear. Nothing went right last year and they were still in it until last 2 weeks. No way as many injuries happen again. I guess we shouldn’t be too hopeful since the Nats already know they will have multiple chances at World Series appearance.

    • recoveringcubsfan - Dec 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM

      I like this take. Yep, the Phils can get at least one more hurrah if they open the wallet again and overpay for Hamilton, et al. It’s worth it if they can win another title. But that said, the Nats and Braves are on the rise no matter what.

  2. jtchernak - Dec 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    As a phillies fan it was a tough year last year but the front office should be focusing on the bullpen as it was a liability last year. And I’m not so sure about the old and injury prone infield we have but time will tell.

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 8, 2012 at 7:41 PM

      Passan is implying that the Phillies are the MYSTERY TEAM this month.

    • captainwisdom8888 - Dec 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM

      I need some phillies success after these lowly birds

  3. mazblast - Dec 8, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    There are lots of semi-serviceable infielders out there. Fill the bigger holes first.

    All the decent backups in the world won’t matter if you can’t get a lead in games, or hold one.

  4. djpostl - Dec 8, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Hyper frail/moody/sensitive Hamilton in a town full of drunks with the most vile fans in sports.

    Yeah, that has success written all over it.

    • xmatt0926x - Dec 8, 2012 at 6:02 PM

      Dear Santa, please find something to do for the 17 year old trolls who have nothing better to do on a weekend night. And if they are older than 17 and acting like that, nevermind. There is no help for someone that pathetic.

      • djpostl - Dec 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM

        Dear Santa…wait, Santa no longer answers the lame ass request by Phillies fans.

        P.S. There was nothing inaccurate in my initial statement.

        Dude is frail (vision issues from energy drinks? Sinus issues?)

        Dude is moody/sensitive (he got butt hurt multiple times when his slump was brought up)

        Philly is full of drunks (some of them are my relatives so don’t even bother trying to argue this well-known fact)

        The fans there are about as vile as they come. Passionate? Yes.

        Raging assholes of the highest order most of the time? You betcha.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Dec 8, 2012 at 6:20 PM

        Please then give me the statistics about alcoholism and alcohol related crime in Philadelphia compared to other cities. I’m not sure the sample size of your relatives is enough to convince me of your hypothesis.

    • ncp2 - Dec 8, 2012 at 7:27 PM

      …said the idiot watching across the field. hate the phillies all you want, but don’t attack a city you know nothing about. go ahead and reference santa and the taser, but the actions of a few only represent a fraction of a percent of an entire fanbase. you, my friend, showed yourself to be a 100% moron.

      • djpostl - Dec 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM

        Don’t forget the clown who shoved his fingers down his throat to make himself hurl on a young girl or the fact your football stadium had to have it’s won drunk court lol. But other than , yeah I know nothing about a city I go to all the time assclown.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Dec 8, 2012 at 10:45 PM

        That guy wasn’t from Philadelphia as I recall. Again, until you provide some statistics other than your own rather limited experience, then you are just talking nonsense….like an assclown.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM


      Troll – In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

      You have been called a troll, and you decline to back up your claim on alcohol abuse being more prevalent in Philadelphia. I take it then that you agree you are a troll?

      • irishphilly87 - Dec 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM

        Hes just a loser. He’s too stupid to know the vomit guy was Jersey Trash and he has a drunk uncle that doesnt give him an Xmas present because he spent his money at the bar and because that he declares a whole city drunks and vile. He sounds like he maaaay be from around the area but this city wouldnt accept his duesch traits all including the slight guess he’s a Cowboys fan even though hes from a Jersey town or Suburb in PA and never set foot in Dallas or Texas.

    • irishphilly87 - Dec 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM

      Dude ur a dumbass. Tell me something have you ever set foot in Philadelphia? Probably not. We have amazing passionate fans here and the only reason a Hamilton wouls get booed is if he didnt play up to his contract or didnt hustle. We dont give a shit about his drug problems. You knock Philly yet pleasant sounding places like Kansas City just cheered there qb laying injured on the field. St Louis is supposed to be like Pleasantville yet they boo there team too and players complained. LA and San Fran literally have rival gangs and stabbings at there games… NY and Boston people can be just like Philly. East Coast is passionate so why dont get a clue because you look like the vile person whos classless and inept to reality.

    • phillyparks28 - Dec 9, 2012 at 8:40 AM

      Philly can definitely forgive and forget. Hamilton would witness the most support here and the fans would get behind him. When you hear our boo’ing, it’s necessary. Hamilton would thrive in philly- baseball is everything here these days. Hopefully RAJ will make a big splash!

  5. ame123 - Dec 8, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Not worried about the Braves, they just lost two of their best players in Jones and Bourn, and Upton is overrated. I did like the bullpen piece they added from LAA, will help if Kimbrell or Venters get injured or decline.

    • evanwins - Dec 9, 2012 at 10:31 AM

      The Phillies played 3/4 of their season without a few HUGE pieces so it’s no surprse 2012 turned out the way it did. Things will be different this year.

      Honestly, I like the moves the Phillies made way better than the Braves and Nationals moves. Dan Haren has had 1 good year out of the past 4, Denard Span is a good player but Revere has more upside, And Upton has never been anything special and has a bad attitude. He is a severe downgrade from Bourne.

      And in Young the Phillies got a piece they really needed. He adds more to the Phillies than he would to most teams because the Phils don’t have a player like him – professional hitter, right-handed, low SO rate – all things the Phillies need.

  6. xmatt0926x - Dec 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    They need an offensive upgrade over Dom Brown (I’ve seen enough) in the outfield and a solid 8th inning guy. The biggest myth about last season was that they were undone directly by the injuries to Howard and Utley. Of course that didn’t help but the biggest issues were the bullpen which led directly to 20+ losses. I forget the total where the team had the lead going into the 8th just to blow it, but it was very high. I just can’t imagine that they don’t have at least a decent sized move left. To go into the season hoping that Ruf is the real deal as a full time player and then to have some godawful platoon with the stiffs Brown and Mayberry(again, have seen enough) would be very troubling.

    • areyesrn - Dec 8, 2012 at 6:38 PM

      yeah how many 8th inning or later leads (and games) did Chad Qualls and Josh Lindblom and Jeremy Horst and Antonio Bastardo lose last year??

      • Joe - Dec 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM

        Qualls blew a lot (a lot of leads as well as just plain blew). Bastardo struggled early on, but he seemed to regain some of his 2011 form towards the end of the season. Horst was actually pretty good, and Lindblom, while he didn’t inspire a ton of confidence, didn’t blow too many leads that I recall. He gave up some ridiculous monster home runs, though.

      • macjacmccoy - Dec 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM

        good thing Lindblom isnt on the team anymore…. traded along with single A pitcher Bonilla for Young.

      • bleedgreen - Dec 9, 2012 at 9:01 AM

        Between JUST Qualls and Bastardo, it was 10 games last year. There were 10 losses and blown saves between them. Last year’s failure can be attributed DIRECTLY to them. if you win 7 of those 10 with other pitchers, they’re in at least at the wild card.

  7. bricktop02 - Dec 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    Hey djpost where you from fantasyland? I guess nobody drinks or gets vile there huh?

  8. Kevin Gillman - Dec 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    I think the Phillies would be better served picking up a Kyle Loshe than a Zack Greinke. Does everyone forget he wanted to quit baseball due to anxiety? And that was in Kansas City, how would he react if he played in Philly?

    • Alex K - Dec 8, 2012 at 7:29 PM

      Stop with the armchair psychology. You don’t know shit about his disorder or him as a person. Don’t act like you do.

      • Kevin Gillman - Dec 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM

        Alex, I don’t mean any disrespect, I am just looking at the history of baseball. When someone of his caliber makes an obscene amount of money, it doesn’t end well. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but history has showed that I am not.

      • Alex K - Dec 8, 2012 at 8:53 PM

        What? The history of baseball? What does that mean in this context? You talked about his mental health, not his contract.

  9. kvanhorn87 - Dec 8, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    Gillman, we are talking Hamilton not Greinke but if that happened watch out.

    • Kevin Gillman - Dec 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM

      Even with Josh kvan, I think Josh is better served to stay in Texas. Money should never, ever be the number one factor in any player leaving. Unfortunately it is at times. But Texas is the only organization that has truly stood behind Josh, yet he fell off the wagon twice, and the media there has taken care of him. Can you imagine if that happened in Philly, or worst, New York? Texas, he has a coach there helping him out, would Philly even give him one there? It’s all the factors that any player like Josh needs to think about before he makes his decision.

      • bleedgreen - Dec 9, 2012 at 9:08 AM

        The only team that stood behind him? He was on the Reds for 1 year in the majors where he was on the DL twice. They’re the ones that REALLY took a chance on him.

        Plus, why is it his employer’s job to get him a life coach? You know what happens to anyone else in the USA if you’re a recovering alcoholic/drug addict? Nothing. You’d likely get fired. If he needs a life coach, that should be on him to obtain and retain.

      • Kevin Gillman - Dec 9, 2012 at 2:01 PM

        Okay, so why would you want him if he does need a life coach? Especially since he is in a much better place for himself in Texas. Again, money should never, ever be the number one factor on why any ballplayer leaves.

  10. kleahy82486 - Dec 8, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    He would be a 4th starter not as much pressure. So anxiety really wouldnt factor in.

    • Kevin Gillman - Dec 8, 2012 at 10:49 PM

      A number 4 starter getting over $20 Million a year, but it’s a moot point now that he is going with the Dodgers. All I know is this, I don’t care how much money a team spends during the offseason, it means nothing anymore if you don’t have the best TEAM. But this is still a bad contract, and the Dodgers might be throwing darts just to spend money. Of course health can factor in too with the Dodgers, so we’ll see.

  11. phillyphan77 - Dec 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM

    I think we should trade Galvis, Valle, and maybe a single A prospect for Upton and sign Lohse or Jackson for the 4th starter. And sign a reliever like Adams and bring Figgins in on a minor league deal.

    • paperlions - Dec 8, 2012 at 8:52 PM

      Ah, so now it is poo poo platter time.

      • Alex K - Dec 8, 2012 at 9:08 PM

        I think that disrespects the poo poo platter.

      • jwbiii - Dec 8, 2012 at 9:35 PM

        Will there be laulaus involved? I love laulaus.

  12. rawhead08 - Dec 9, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    Remember all the hoopla around Miami last yr after they signed Uggla and Reyes. How’d that work out? Lmao

    And to the simpleton talking about Philly…he’s probably some schmoe from across the country pretending he has relatives in PA to justify his hate

  13. bleedeaglesgreen - Dec 9, 2012 at 2:41 AM

    Im gonna go out on a limb here, and predict the “big move” in the works, is RAJ gets on the phone with Cleveland and Arizona and puts together some sort of package that sends prospects to cleveland, cabrera and pitching to arizona, upton to philly. Not sure exactly who he could package, but i know cleveland could use young outfielders(brown….i know his value isnt great, but with another prospect or two might be enough) and arizona needs the SS and could use young starting pitching as well.

  14. phillyparks28 - Dec 9, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Any of the following, not necessarily all, would be great moves for the phils. Make a late push for Josh Hamilton. Sign Mike Adams to stabilize the back of the bullpen. Bring in a low risk, high reward, proven veteran starter- perhaps someone who could have a bounce-back year. In a perfect world we would also trade for curtis granderson. Or Justin Upton. Other options include Ichiro Suzuki, Cody Ross, or Nick Swisher. Let’s get some power in the OF and bring in a couple of reliable arms – dont sign any Chad Qualls types as we all know how poorly that played out. Hopefully christmas will come early for us Philly fans as it has in the past! Get ‘ER done Rube!!!

  15. deathmonkey41 - Dec 9, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Phillies should also look into getting Chooch some better masking agents.

  16. dizoakiusmaximus - Dec 9, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    Cody Ross, Dempster and Carols Villaneuva. Solid all over and ready to go for the season at that point.

    • dizoakiusmaximus - Dec 9, 2012 at 9:22 PM

      *Carlos – damn lack of edit function

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