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Now that Zack Greinke is in the fold, the Dodgers could try to lock up Clayton Kershaw

Dec 10, 2012, 8:00 PM EST

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It’s possible that Zack Greinke‘s six-year, $147 million deal won’t be the biggest contract the deep-pocketed Dodgers give out this offseason.

According to Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times, Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti said during the press conference for left-hander Hyun-Jin Ryu earlier today that it’s possible the club could explore extension talks with staff ace Clayton Kershaw in the coming weeks. This actually isn’t much different than what Colletti said just about a month ago, but he wanted to put the issue on the backburner while he dealt with more pressing matters. He might be ready now, though.

Kershaw is owed $11 million in 2013 in the second year of a two-year, $19 million contract and is arbitration-eligible for the final time next offseason. Greinke’s deal will likely function as a benchmark in talks and it would be a surprise if he didn’t surpass CC Sabathia‘s record $161 commitment from the Yankees. Heck, he could be the game’s first $200 million pitcher.

Kershaw, 24, has a 2.79 ERA over his first five seasons in the big leagues. After winning the NL Cy Young award in 2011, he was the runner-up to R.A. Dickey this past season.

  1. vanmorrissey - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Cool. Bump their payroll up to $225 million/yr and rising. Let’s see how long that lasts and if it’s worth the price.

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:12 PM

      Why stop at $225 million when $250 million is a much more impressive total and would hamstring the team for a longer time.

      • echech88 - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM

        They won’t be hamstring by payroll. It’s more just a matter of how epic the failure will be if they don’t dominate with that much money being spent.

        Eventually they’ll find out that if they actually do their homework and spend their money efficiently (and not on League and Crawford), they can be roughly as good at $180M as $250M…of course their front office just doesn’t get lazy and use it as a crutch.

      • stex52 - Dec 11, 2012 at 2:05 PM

        MLB certainly won’t stop them. They will be pumping out tons of luxury tax money to other teams. Another form of revenue sharing for the league from a big market.

    • 01133377dodger - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:28 PM

      It would not go into effect tell 2015, we would have a bunch of bad contracts and 2-3 starters that we do not need. Pay him 25M/yr for 8 years he’s worth it!!!! Our payroll would be less than it is today.

  2. kingscourt25 - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:07 PM

    “Kershaw, 24, has a 2.79 ERA over his first five seasons in the big leagues.”

    Holy fuck

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM

      The Pope did not approve that message.

      • paperlions - Dec 11, 2012 at 7:42 AM

        Is that good or bad? Considering the history of things that Popes have approved of….I just can’t be sure.

      • proudlycanadian - Dec 11, 2012 at 7:51 AM

        There is room for ambiguity in life.

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 11, 2012 at 9:38 AM

        Not if you’re the one being bombed or fondled.

      • kevinbnyc - Dec 11, 2012 at 12:30 PM

        Reasonably confident the Pope never bombed anyone.

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 12, 2012 at 12:09 AM

        Depends on which Pope you happened to be referring to. Past Popes have collaborated with Nazis, for starters. The current Pope was a member of the Hitler youth.

  3. biasedhomer - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    I’d like to see the Dodgers payroll hit $300M, and get knocked out of the playoffs by some random 88 win team that got hot at the right time.

    • echech88 - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM

      In all likelihood they will be bounced most years by cheaper teams. It’s what makes MLB postseason fun.

  4. dondada10 - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    Apples and oranges given the differences in their deliveries, but I’m sure the Giants are glad they didn’t lock Lincecum long-term.

  5. Gordon - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    Just wait til they claim the stadium is uninhabitable an they need taxpayer money to build a new one.

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 11, 2012 at 9:39 AM

      Bzzzzzt. Nope, wrong answer, Gordo. Guggenheim just put a hundred large of their own money into improvements. You mad, dude?

    • sportsdrenched - Dec 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM

      You might want to read HBT more than you do.

  6. barroomhero80 - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Have you ladies nothing better to bitch about?

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

      Apparently Ladies Home Journal has yet to arrive in the mailbox. It’s their imitation of the nosy broad next door bitching because the neighbors have a new car.

  7. webbza - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    I’m just starting to blog about baseball and it would be greatly appreciated if anyone that’s interested would check out some of my posts. Also, I think it’s definitely safe to say that the Dodgers are the new Yankees. At this point, it seems like they’ll just buy their wins. I’m very impressed by their new front office though.

    • biasedhomer - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM

      What’s there to be impressed with? All they have done is thrown money around at big name players. This rarely works, see as recently as last years Marlins.

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

        Guggenheim ain’t no Loria.

      • webbza - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:00 PM

        I’m impressed that they’re bringing in quality players unlike the Marlins did last year, and that they’re not just conning an entire city. The Marlins brought in Ozzie Guillen to manage a group of players whose egos were already a little too big. Jose Reyes is a good player, but he’s also always hurt and is pretty inconsistent. If the fish thought that he, Heath Bell, Mark Buehrle, and some new jerseys would turn them into a 100 win team, then they’re crazy. Also, Loria is clearly not the guy that you want leading your organization. The Dodgers are bringing in a superstar with Greinke, not a bunch of washed up players and a bad manager like the Marlins.

      • webbza - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:02 PM

        And what do you mean it rarely works?….the yanks have 27 world championships to show for it. I’d say it works pretty well.

      • djpostl - Dec 10, 2012 at 11:18 PM

        “The Dodgers are bringing in a superstar with Greinke” just makes me chuckle every time.

        Career ERA of 3.77. Career ERA+ of 114. Career xFIP of 3.62.

        Those are the numbers of a “good” starter. Not a “superstar”.

        Agon is way over-priced AND they had to take Beckett and Crawford (and their crappy deals) to get him. Eithier is grossly over-paid. Greinke is arguably not even a top 20 pitcher in MLB but is being paid like he’s the best. Kemp (as long as he stays healthy) is worth what he gets but other than him and Kershaw it’s a team that is being paid far more than it’s worth.

      • paperlions - Dec 11, 2012 at 7:46 AM

        webbza, you might want to learn a little baseball history. Almost none of the Yankees WS titles were due to spending money on free agents, even most of their titles during the FA era were due to drafting and developing their own players….once they started spending big (i.e. after the Steinbrenners started becoming involved in baseball decisions again), they’ve only won one WS….made the playoffs almost every year, but that isn’t a guarantee of anything with the expanded playoff structure.

      • webbza - Dec 11, 2012 at 1:33 PM

        Touché

  8. paxnov - Dec 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    First, we are talking about Stan Kasten here. I haven’t heard anybody accuse the Braves of being badly run by anybody whose opinion mattered; or by anybody who knew wat they were talking about. Second, apparently none of you thought to check the Dodgers’ income before making your doomsday predictions. As of today, Dodger’s payroll for 2013 (including luxury tax) doesn’t exceed their income stream from their projected local television deal. Their income from the national tv deal, ticket sales, concessions, merchandising, etc., remains untapped. Theoretically, the Dodgers could invest like this every year. I don’t think they will, but they could with negligible impact on their finances. Even with this winter spending spree, they remain profitable on paper. Even factoring in the Red Sox deal, the Dodgers look to recoup their half billion dollar investment by 2015. Quit worrying about the Dodgers. They have the money and they needed the investment. They will continue to improve top to bottom and are here to stay. Moreover, if hey decide they want one of your team’s free agents, they will probably get them. That is the new reality in baseball. Will they win next year, or every year, of course not. Do they have a shot at winning 4 of the next 15 like the Yankees did in the last 15 years, you bet.

    • richyballgame - Dec 11, 2012 at 12:05 AM

      I totally disagree with you saying they can have any team’s desired FA,when in reality,sentimentality is setting in,look at Cliff Lee,he went where he wanted to play instead of cashing in on the Yankees payday. What happens if the Dodgers don’t even make it to the playoffs?

    • paperlions - Dec 11, 2012 at 7:51 AM

      Stan Kasten has run the business side of franchises, not the baseball side. Having Kasten may mean the Dodgers make good business decisions on non-baseball issues, but it doesn’t mean they will make good baseball decisions. Colletti is one of the worst GMs in baseball and they chose to extend his contract. They signed League to a laughable deal. They spent $60M on a guy that most think will end up in the pen. They bought a bunch of bad contracts from the Red Sox AND gave up good prospects to do it. So far, there haven’t been any good baseball decisions, just a lot of spending.

      Look at that lineup. For $240M, that’s all they’ve got?

      • SOBEIT - Dec 11, 2012 at 9:25 AM

        As a Giants fan, I am really happy that Colletti is their GM…and no longer the Giants GM. And now his only goal is to shove it back in the Giants face and that will lead to even more bad decisions. Add to that an open checkbook…the mistakes will be legendary.

    • webbza - Dec 11, 2012 at 1:39 PM

      I don’t think that the Braves are being run poorly. I just disagree with some of the moves they made this season. Frank Wren has done a great job in the last few years of turning over players and establishing the contending team that they have become, but I don’t think he has made the best choices so far this offseason. BJ Upton, especially, is not the guy that I would give $15 mill a year to play very average baseball.

  9. richyballgame - Dec 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Eh… I’ll be hated for saying this by Dodgers fans,but Kershaw will become the highest paid pitcher in the history of the MLB,and I think other teams that are bigger towns baseball wise,will spend the near $200 million necessary to sign him. Ultimately,he hits the market and leaves the Dodgers. If I were him,I would.

  10. coloradogolfcoupons - Dec 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Barring injury, Kershaw might bring more at the free agent auction than Arod’s original 10 year, 252 million deal. He will only be 26, and a 10 year deal will mean he is only 36 when it ends, and lots of great pitchers are still pitching at 36. $25 million/year is not only possible, but very probable if he pitches well this year, so don’t laugh when you hear $250 million for Kershaw’s next contract. His off the field work (Clemente award) will factor into the contract as well. Who would you rather invest a quarter billion in…Josh Hamilton or Clayton Kershaw? Dodger’s won’t be out-bid by this guy, and both Boston and the Yankees would love to have him, so it would be a three-way tug of war if the Dodgers let him reach FA. I’m betting they will extend him, maybe as early as this spring. It might save them 50 million or more.

  11. kobeisking - Dec 11, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    “Kershaw will leave via free agency” Laughable…

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