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Quote of the Day: Ruben Amaro on Michael Young

Dec 10, 2012, 3:21 PM EDT

Michael Young

Phillies GM Ruben Amaro talking about his new third baseman, Michael Young:

“He has all the elements we’re looking for,” general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. “First of all, the makeup is extraordinary. He’s the ultimate team player. He knows how to play baseball. He’s a winning baseball player. He’s had the opportunity to be in big games in the playoffs and he just fits real well.”

He later added — and I am not making this up — that Young is a “professional hitter.” Kind of a bummer because now they have to pay him.

In other news, it’s a good thing he “knows how to play baseball” or else it would have been really embarrassing when he showed up wearing scuba gear and asked what all the grass and dirt was for.

  1. lroc20 - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Craig your brutal!

    • fellspointbird - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM

      *you’re

      • ame123 - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:35 PM

        only thing more annoying than people with poor grammar are the spelling nazis.

      • kopy - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM

        It’s not spelling. It’s the substitution of a completely different word, and it’s suitcase annoying.

    • ame123 - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:34 PM

      if by brutal you mean desperate for pageviews, yeah he’s brutal.

      • craigisaloser - Dec 10, 2012 at 5:01 PM

        Just another pathetic cut and paste job by a sad sack blogger. Craig….oh Craig…you suck so much…so so very much

      • stlouis1baseball - Dec 10, 2012 at 5:51 PM

        Wait! I am confused so please type slowly.
        If people with poor grammar are the most annoying…how can spelling nazis NOT be annoying?
        To clarify…poor grammar is annoying but poor spelling isn’t?
        You know what’s most annoying in my opinion?
        People who feel the need to point out poor grammar and poor spelling.
        These people are slightly more annoying than those that feel compelled to correct their poor grammer and/or poor spelling. It a phuqing blog! Not English Literature.

      • louhudson23 - Dec 11, 2012 at 5:46 AM

        Spell and write correctly or expect to hear about it. No edit button here makes mistakes inevitable.But ignorance of grammar and spelling,willful or not, is of no redeeming value to anyone. Blog,graffiti or otherwise,get it right,or learn from the mistake. We all have kids,employers and employees,co workers. Allowing this downhill slide into ambiguity is just more of the negative influence that derides intellect,education and knowledge and applauds reactionary ignorance.Say what you mean and mean what you say.

      • ltzep75 - Dec 11, 2012 at 12:17 PM

        louhudson23:

        You must be one of the new commenters Craig warned us all about who was to come from the great morass that is the yahoo sports section. I can only assume this as your comment was clear, lucid, constructive, and devoid of petty argument.

        Not to be a prick (but try as I might, I remain one), but I believe co-workers is hyphenated.

      • kevinbnyc - Dec 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM

        If YOU’RE an adult and don’t know not to use YOUR in that sentence, you deserve to be lambasted for it.

  2. MattJanik - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    “He’s had the opportunity to be in big games in the playoffs…”

    Michael Young’s career playoff line (147 PAs): .248/.272/.383.

    Though, to be fair, I guess he only said he’s been IN those games, so he’s not WRONG, per se…

    • tomemos - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:50 PM

      Yeah, you can’t say he hasn’t “had the opportunity.”

    • tuberippin - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:55 PM

      All he said was that Young had the opportunity, not that he lived up to it.

  3. nategearhart - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    He sure struggled to come up with anything tangible to say in Young’s favor.

  4. kkolchak - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    I can’t believe Amaro didn’t squeeze in the word “intangible,” or try to tell us that Young is in “the best shape of his life.” What’s the world coming to?

  5. ame123 - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    This is such a weak post. You’re gonna pick on RAJ for that? What is he supposed to say? That the player he just acquired sucks and the Phillies are hoping for a dead cat bounce season? EVERY GM in baseball has these platitudes to say about players they have just acquired. But I guess since its RAJ and Phillies fans are the biggest drivers of traffic to this site, it has to get its own post.

    • nategearhart - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:37 PM

      The point is that if Young was a good baseball player, Amaro wouldn’t have to resort to basically spouting off a bunch of b.s.

      • ame123 - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:42 PM

        Why is it BS? Because he didn’t spout of his triple slash line or the average of his last 3 season’s fWARs? Without going into stats what else is he going to say when introducing his new player?

      • nategearhart - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM

        I bet if Michael Young had good stats, Amaro would have gone into them. But it’s b.s. because Young is not in fact a team player, his makeup is poor, calling someone a “winning” ballplayer is completely contextual and therefore meaningless, “having the opportunity to play in playoff games” also says nothing except he has played for a good baseball team, and “he just fits real well” doesn’t mean anything at all.
        Basically, I ask you: even without citing stats, why didn’t Amaro ever say “he’s a good baseball player”? Because he’s not, that’s why.

      • tomemos - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM

        It’s always worth criticizing a public figure for their use of weak, meaningless cliches.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:50 PM

        So you point is – GM’s always rattle off stat sheets when they bring in a new player? Well, then, I guess these quotes would suggest doubt if a GM said this:

        “He has the talent, professionalism and makeup that embody what we look for in players” “He’s a number one, a blue chipper and I expect him to stabilize our pitching staff. He brings a great work ethic and tremendous character and he’ll have a big presence in our clubhouse”

        That was RAJ talking about Roy Halladay after they traded for him. So based on your logic, Amaro had doubts on him, I guess

      • siftin thru nonsense - Dec 10, 2012 at 5:01 PM

        Who really cares what he says, it’s what he does that matters. Amaro rarely tells the truth and smooths stuff over to keep us calm. He got us a contact hitter who will prob have the top avg on the team this yr or near top. We got 2 slap hitters on the cheap so far and lost some power by saying bye to the Hawaiin. Lets see what he does with the 22M remaining or whatever is left.
        Crappy market this yr for free agents except for Hamilton as far as hitting is concerned.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

        P.S. if you read the link, Amaro goes on at length about Youngs numbers, including that last year was a down year. Craig didn’t mention any of that…..because that is what he gets paid to do.

      • paperlions - Dec 11, 2012 at 8:09 AM

        Yes, he did talk about the numbers. He also said this:

        “He’s had some years where he hit .280 and others where he hit .330. But at the same time, even when his numbers aren’t extraordinary – and they were still pretty darn good last year, maybe better than anybody we had on our club – but the fact of the matter is he’s a professional hitter.”

        That is bat-shit crazy. The only Phillie with 300+ PAs that had worse numbers than Young was Polanco.

      • HitsDingers - Dec 11, 2012 at 8:58 AM

        He meant counting numbers! No one specified.

        Can’t shit a shitter

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM

        @paper – Craig shld hire you as a Cherry picker! With regards to Youngs numbers, Amaro could not have been more clear:

        “I know that last year was not his best year but after talking to the scouts and discussing it intently with the rest of our front office, we felt like this is an excellent person to bring to our club.”

      • nategearhart - Dec 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM

        “He couldn’t have been more clear”???? “He didn’t have his best year” is COMPLETELY ambiguous! It could mean he had is second best year, or his third best year…what it doesn’t say is that he was arguably the worst everyday player in baseball last year. So no, “he didn’t have his best year” doesn’t exactly cover the kind of season Michael Young had last year.

  6. deafrecon - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    this trolling is a http://goo.gl/TLb4g

  7. hep3 - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    Will Young show up to camp in the best shape of his life? That is the real question.

  8. zzalapski - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    As revelations go, bitching about position changes being included in Amaro’s definition of “the ultimate team player” is slightly more unsettling than Michael Young wearing makeup.

    • historiophiliac - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:05 PM

      Not gonna lie, when I read that, I looked over at the picture to see if it was like Bare Escentuals or Clinique or something. I wasn’t all impressed…but maybe he meant the eye black?

  9. greymares - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Not to mention the Phillies got a .250 hitter for 5.5 mil. And Craig’s team had to pay 75.25 mil. For their .250 hitter

    • ame123 - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:43 PM

      Hasn’t hit over .246 since 2008. ROFLz

    • phillyphreak - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM

      Yea, it’s totally not like one is 36 on the down side of his career and one is 28 and entering his prime while demonstrating a good skill set (if only it could all be put together one year.)

      • paperlions - Dec 10, 2012 at 5:04 PM

        Pshaw, power and OBP…batting average totally covers everything important a hitter could possible do at the plate….and a guy that plays a horrible 3B is exactly the same as plus defense in CF, no good defenders are ever put in CF because it just isn’t an important place on the field, guys hardly ever hit the ball out there.

      • phillies2k8 - Dec 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM

        Let’s hope Upton is entering his prime. His BA is .242 over the last 4 years. That is more than a just a trend.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 10, 2012 at 5:04 PM

      Never mention facts when discussing Craigs posts!

      Who knows, maybe it will come out that Michel Young took PED’s….then Craig will follow suit and defend him to the hilt and call it the greatest trade ever

  10. The Baseball Gods - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    I’m pretty sure RAJ was just insinuating that Young is a “smart” baseball player and knows how to play the game the correct way. There are plenty of MLB players that are talented enough to play in the Majors, but they are far from “professional”. They get by on mere talent alone. Victorino, who just got $13 million a year, is a very talented baseball player, but his baseball IQ is lacking substantially. Players who can work the count are usually termed “professional hitters”, even though everyone in the MLB is technically a professional hitter.

  11. Francisco (FC) - Dec 10, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    I know how to play baseball! Where’s my $6 MM offer Ruben?

    • historiophiliac - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:06 PM

      How’s your makeup?

      • Francisco (FC) - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:15 PM

        I’m sure I can come up with some Uruk Hai style face paint to scare the pitchers, (or laugh them into submission – take your pick)

      • paperlions - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:20 PM

        Smudged?

      • jwbiii - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:57 PM

        When I played makeup games, I went with eyeliner and just a hint of blush.

  12. sgtr0c - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    His job is to sell tickets. If RAJ hired you, he would say things like, ” Craig knows every letter of the alphabet, he uses punctuation, and he can capitolize……..”. I have never heard a g.m. say the guy we picked up stinks. I liked PP at third, good defense, but he is a year older now and his bat stunk. Phillies need people on base, they have enough bombadiers. All the humps on the radio said the Phightin’s should play small ball last summer, they were not built for that. Young should be a piece that helps that part out. Time will tell if it works out, not Ranger fans with T.L.A. stats.

  13. DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:17 PM

    They just released the syllabus for Troll 101. All it was was a link to this post

  14. albertmn - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    They got Young at a decent price, and he has a chance to be better than their other options at the spot, while giving any of their youngsters one more year to develop. You can knock Young, but for the price Philly is playing, he is a good gamble for one season. They had a hard luck season last year, and have added a couple of players that should help them improve this year. Waiting to see if they make one more big splash.

  15. paperlions - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    Oh, c’mon. This string of meaningless and sometime inaccurate cliches is fantastic.

    “He has all the elements we’re looking for,” (apparently hitting, catching, and throwing a baseball aren’t things the Phillies look for in a 3B)

    “First of all, the makeup is extraordinary. He’s the ultimate team player.” (unless he doesn’t want to do what is best for the team, in which case he asks to be traded)

    “He knows how to play baseball.” (This is key. He must know which direction to run around the bases and everything).

    “He’s a winning baseball player.” (He’s won a championship at every level, except high school, college, and the Major Leagues).

    “He’s had the opportunity to be in big games in the playoffs” (even though he performed horribly in those games).

    “he just fits real well.” (derp)

  16. fanofevilempire - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    so basically he will be able to play third base, right.

  17. Walk - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    I thought we were obligated to call him blue collar and scrappy. I think one means he cant hit and the other he cant run or field a position.

  18. xmatt0926x - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    Wow. The attention paid to timeless cliches used by a GM who acquired a player he has to hope has a decent year is amazing. I’m a Phillies fan who thinks Amaro is an absolute dink as a GM but he didn’t say anything a billion GM’s haven’t said before. This is a GM who in 2012 said “I’m not a stats guy”. That is what should frighten the fans, not meaningless cliche babble.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:52 PM

      Exactly (except that Amaro is not a dink).

      As I posted above, that is no different then the words he used to describe Roy Halladay.

    • siftin thru nonsense - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:57 PM

      Bottom line was what exactly was available for 3b?? There werent very many options for us and this is just a one yr stop gap. I dont like giving up prospects, but Lindbomb.. byebye to that horrible homer rate ..yikes! Young is the bridge to Asche if Asche can get it all together.

      • paperlions - Dec 10, 2012 at 5:13 PM

        Chavez would have been better (signed a 1 year deal for $3M).

        Reynolds would have been better (signed a 1 yr deal for $6M).

        Youkilis would have been better (considering a 1 yr deal).

        Heck, sticking Galvis over there would have been better..similar offense, far better defense.

        Are there any alternatives that were worse than paying Young $7.2M and giving up a couple of players?

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

        @paperlions – the Phillies are paying Young $6 Mil, the extra $1.2 mil bonus you are thinking of is being paid by the Rangers. Rangers – $11.2 Million, Phillies – $6 Million.

      • paperlions - Dec 11, 2012 at 8:02 AM

        Every report I’ve seen says that the Phillies are picking up that $1.2 millions, essentially paying for the difference in taxes between playing in Philly and in Texas.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Dec 11, 2012 at 10:52 AM

        @paper – what reports are you seeing that the Phillies paid the $1.2 mil bonus? Everything is showing it as Texas

        “The Rangers will reportedly pay $10 million of Young’s $16 million salary in 2013. Texas also paid Young a further $1.2 million to get him to waive his no-trade clause, a decision he deliberated for days. The Phillies will grant Young a new no-trade provision.”

        http://articles.philly.com/2012-12-10/sports/35728748_1_phillies-general-manager-lisalverto-bonilla-josh-lindblom

  19. siftin thru nonsense - Dec 10, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    ok, so we got Young and got old-er. Hey, he will hit for avg. and his worst yr is better than any of the avgs from last yr except Ruf who didnt play the full yr. Anyway, that is done. Let’s look at what we need to be done.. we need a bat..power bat. We have lost power from these moves. So is it Cody Ross(high K’s, low walks, defense idk), ALfonso Soriano (good pop, old, bad D), Nick Swisher (good OBA , good pop , defense idk), or Josh Hamilton (blows the others away, but has some baggage and would come to a nice organization with older vet players and he would feel comfortable here). Select one. Then we need a starter and veteran type bullpen help. We r just getting started here.

  20. cur68 - Dec 10, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    I ask, nay DEMAND to know what halladaysbicepts thinks of this trade and Amaro’s comments. Unban him for comment. Then I want him banned again.

  21. mojosmagic - Dec 10, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    When you have no talent as a writer like Craig you become a twiter. A twiter is a troll who gets paid a nominal sum to give his worthless opinion.

  22. Jonny 5 - Dec 10, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    This move will not be considered a mistake by the end of the season. That’s what I’m thinking/ hoping. This was a gamble, it’s not going to break the bank. Young is playing to prove he deserves another contract, he’ll be trying extra hard to produce. I do laugh at the cliche riddled description Amaro gave, too rich. I wish he were just a bit more scrappy though. Definitely low on the scrappiness scale for my taste. ;-)

  23. phillyphannn83 - Dec 11, 2012 at 3:38 AM

    Classic troll work there Craig

  24. hisgirlgotburrelled - Dec 11, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    From what I’ve heard about him switching positions he was not the “ultimate team player.” Maybe playing 3B will keep him content and he’ll hit more like 2 years ago. Wishful thinking…

    This is a lot of Amaro tip-toeing around the fact this team couldn’t score runs last year and he has done nothing to improve it. Of the 149 batters with 500 PA’s Michael Young was 130th and Revere was 132nd.

    • hisgirlgotburrelled - Dec 11, 2012 at 8:58 AM

      … in OPS.

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