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	<title>Comments on: Evan Grant&#8217;s defense of Michael Young: he&#8217;s a leader and is just like Paul Molitor</title>
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		<title>By: stlouis1baseball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stlouis1baseball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On point once again Cur.  I didn&#039;t see your post when I answered Skids.  
Regardless...you nailed it.  Personally, I think he was mostly well intentioned.  
But the drunk Cepts&#039; wasnt a good Cept&#039;s.  As Paper pointed out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On point once again Cur.  I didn&#8217;t see your post when I answered Skids.<br />
Regardless&#8230;you nailed it.  Personally, I think he was mostly well intentioned.<br />
But the drunk Cepts&#8217; wasnt a good Cept&#8217;s.  As Paper pointed out.</p>
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		<title>By: stlouis1baseball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stlouis1baseball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Essentially, he was banned for being honest.  People didn&#039;t like his honesty.
Granted...he was foul mouthed and he wasn&#039;t very tolerant of those that weren&#039;t of his...&quot;ilk.&quot;
But the dude was honest.  Very honest.  That...was his biggest issue.
Cur gave a great depiction of HB a long time ago. 

CUR:  Care to give another run down on HB for those that don&#039;t know or remember?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Essentially, he was banned for being honest.  People didn&#8217;t like his honesty.<br />
Granted&#8230;he was foul mouthed and he wasn&#8217;t very tolerant of those that weren&#8217;t of his&#8230;&#8221;ilk.&#8221;<br />
But the dude was honest.  Very honest.  That&#8230;was his biggest issue.<br />
Cur gave a great depiction of HB a long time ago. </p>
<p>CUR:  Care to give another run down on HB for those that don&#8217;t know or remember?</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 02:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;m sure. He wasn&#039;t big on drinking the koolaid when it came to hitting. I can see him not liking this too much. BUT don&#039;t nobody diss on Rube. I think HB would have Rube&#039;s babies if he could.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m sure. He wasn&#8217;t big on drinking the koolaid when it came to hitting. I can see him not liking this too much. BUT don&#8217;t nobody diss on Rube. I think HB would have Rube&#8217;s babies if he could.</p>
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		<title>By: seanmk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seanmk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Phillies already have enough strikeouts in the lineup. This is a case where you are trying to fit a round peg into the square hole. Young doesn’t strike out. Reynolds does. Phillies don’t need the power…they need someone who can put the ball in play, move runners, etc.&quot;


The last three years the Phillies have been 3rd, 2nd , and 1st in LEAST amount of strikeouts in the NL.  Too many strikeouts is not the problem.  Power on the other hand whether slugging or home runs has been middle of the pack since 2010.  Michael Young averages 102 k&#039;s a season but really why are you focusing strictly on strikeouts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Phillies already have enough strikeouts in the lineup. This is a case where you are trying to fit a round peg into the square hole. Young doesn’t strike out. Reynolds does. Phillies don’t need the power…they need someone who can put the ball in play, move runners, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>The last three years the Phillies have been 3rd, 2nd , and 1st in LEAST amount of strikeouts in the NL.  Too many strikeouts is not the problem.  Power on the other hand whether slugging or home runs has been middle of the pack since 2010.  Michael Young averages 102 k&#8217;s a season but really why are you focusing strictly on strikeouts?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t Young traded for the first time TO the Rangers from Toronto?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Young traded for the first time TO the Rangers from Toronto?</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He actually isn&#039;t much of a fan of the Michael Young signing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He actually isn&#8217;t much of a fan of the Michael Young signing.</p>
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		<title>By: hardjudge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hardjudge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We Ranger fans called Michael Young, AO, for automatic out when it counted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Ranger fans called Michael Young, AO, for automatic out when it counted.</p>
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		<title>By: shynessismyelguapo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shynessismyelguapo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, scanning my post to see where is said Grudzielaniak sucked.....

...nope, nowhere in there.  I think what I said was that, despite having similar batting averages, Bonds was much, much better than Grudz. 

Also, I agree, Ryan Howard&#039;s 2006 WAS an awesome, awesome year.  His 2007 and 2009 were very good years.  Ryan Howard was a good baseball player.  He wasn&#039;t that overrated in the years above, but in other years, he absolutely was. When a fellow first baseman posts an OPS .233 points lower and narrowly finishes second in the MVP race (2008)...yeah, that is being pretty overrated.    

Howard is a good player, (assuming he bounces back from his awful 2012).  It is possible to be overrated AND good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, scanning my post to see where is said Grudzielaniak sucked&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8230;nope, nowhere in there.  I think what I said was that, despite having similar batting averages, Bonds was much, much better than Grudz. </p>
<p>Also, I agree, Ryan Howard&#8217;s 2006 WAS an awesome, awesome year.  His 2007 and 2009 were very good years.  Ryan Howard was a good baseball player.  He wasn&#8217;t that overrated in the years above, but in other years, he absolutely was. When a fellow first baseman posts an OPS .233 points lower and narrowly finishes second in the MVP race (2008)&#8230;yeah, that is being pretty overrated.    </p>
<p>Howard is a good player, (assuming he bounces back from his awful 2012).  It is possible to be overrated AND good.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course not.  What I am implying is that just because a guy wasn&#039;t Barry Bonds doesn&#039;t mean he sucked.  MG was a very good leadoff hitter in 1996 who had a very good year in my opinion.  Just because &quot;WAR&quot; put him at 2.2, which is just .2 above a starter doesn&#039;t make me believe he was just average.  WAR is a made-up stat that uses subjective stats to base some of its value.  And it gives weight to some stats just because.  To me, to compare two players on the basis of WAR is misleading at best.  If you want to talk about &quot;future predictions&quot; then yes, WAR can be a valuable stat for GMs who should use all available stats.  But to use WAR to say player A had a better year than player b is ludicrous.

For instance, some people will tell you that player A(.250 Batting Average) hit better than player B(.300 batting average) and that player B was just lucky because his BABiP was 100 points higher than player A&#039;s.  While this may be a good indicator for what will happen the following year...in other words, I would be willing to bet that luck will even out and player A will outhit player B in the following year, BABiP should have ZERO bearing on how the season actually played out.  So what if player B got luckier?  He still hit 50 points higher than player A.  

I like hard core Sabremetrics when they are used properly.  To me, they are used properly when they are used to predict future performance, not when they are sometimes used to nitpick about how well a player did.  When Ryan Howard hits 58 bombs and knocks in 148 runs, it&#039;s a frigging historic power year, I don&#039;t give a shit what his BABiP, FiP, dWAR, VORP, PLORP, and every other stat you want to give me.  Now, when the sabremetricians of the worls beat up the Phillies for Howard&#039;s extension, they used SABR stats for future performance predicting, and for now, they have been pretty correct.  However, he was injured last year.  We will see what happens this year.  Either way, the Phillies have the money so it was no big deal to them.  A team like the Rays, who pay over 30% of their payroll for one guy 8 years down the road...well, they are just plain stupid, but nobody calls them out on it.

To each his/her own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course not.  What I am implying is that just because a guy wasn&#8217;t Barry Bonds doesn&#8217;t mean he sucked.  MG was a very good leadoff hitter in 1996 who had a very good year in my opinion.  Just because &#8220;WAR&#8221; put him at 2.2, which is just .2 above a starter doesn&#8217;t make me believe he was just average.  WAR is a made-up stat that uses subjective stats to base some of its value.  And it gives weight to some stats just because.  To me, to compare two players on the basis of WAR is misleading at best.  If you want to talk about &#8220;future predictions&#8221; then yes, WAR can be a valuable stat for GMs who should use all available stats.  But to use WAR to say player A had a better year than player b is ludicrous.</p>
<p>For instance, some people will tell you that player A(.250 Batting Average) hit better than player B(.300 batting average) and that player B was just lucky because his BABiP was 100 points higher than player A&#8217;s.  While this may be a good indicator for what will happen the following year&#8230;in other words, I would be willing to bet that luck will even out and player A will outhit player B in the following year, BABiP should have ZERO bearing on how the season actually played out.  So what if player B got luckier?  He still hit 50 points higher than player A.  </p>
<p>I like hard core Sabremetrics when they are used properly.  To me, they are used properly when they are used to predict future performance, not when they are sometimes used to nitpick about how well a player did.  When Ryan Howard hits 58 bombs and knocks in 148 runs, it&#8217;s a frigging historic power year, I don&#8217;t give a shit what his BABiP, FiP, dWAR, VORP, PLORP, and every other stat you want to give me.  Now, when the sabremetricians of the worls beat up the Phillies for Howard&#8217;s extension, they used SABR stats for future performance predicting, and for now, they have been pretty correct.  However, he was injured last year.  We will see what happens this year.  Either way, the Phillies have the money so it was no big deal to them.  A team like the Rays, who pay over 30% of their payroll for one guy 8 years down the road&#8230;well, they are just plain stupid, but nobody calls them out on it.</p>
<p>To each his/her own.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought it was a self-imposed ban?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He originally was banned for posting some not-so-nice things.  After apologizing to Craig and asking if he could be let back in, Craig allowed him.  Then about a week or two later, &#039;cepts realized he wouldn&#039;t be able to maintain the stipulations that Craig asked for him to continue posting, so &#039;cepts told Craig to permanently ban him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I thought it was a self-imposed ban?</p></blockquote>
<p>He originally was banned for posting some not-so-nice things.  After apologizing to Craig and asking if he could be let back in, Craig allowed him.  Then about a week or two later, &#8216;cepts realized he wouldn&#8217;t be able to maintain the stipulations that Craig asked for him to continue posting, so &#8216;cepts told Craig to permanently ban him.</p>
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		<title>By: shynessismyelguapo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shynessismyelguapo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woah, woah, hold on there Chris:

Are you implying that Mark Grudzelaniak was as good in 1996 as Barry Bonds?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah, woah, hold on there Chris:</p>
<p>Are you implying that Mark Grudzelaniak was as good in 1996 as Barry Bonds?</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flawless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flawless.</p>
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		<title>By: DelawarePhilliesFan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DelawarePhilliesFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea, paperlions nailed it. 98% of the time he was great. Honestly, when I first relized he was so reviled, I was like &quot;Huh? Dude knows his stuff, whats the problem?&quot; Then all of a sudden you would look and it would be &quot;WHOA! This guy is insane!&quot;. Then it would be back to 50 posts in a row that where well argued.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, paperlions nailed it. 98% of the time he was great. Honestly, when I first relized he was so reviled, I was like &#8220;Huh? Dude knows his stuff, whats the problem?&#8221; Then all of a sudden you would look and it would be &#8220;WHOA! This guy is insane!&#8221;. Then it would be back to 50 posts in a row that where well argued.</p>
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		<title>By: DelawarePhilliesFan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DelawarePhilliesFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ladies and Gentleman, this man will not be playing 3rd base for the Phillies

http://deadspin.com/5901026/mark-reynolds-is-the-worst-third-baseman-in-baseball]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies and Gentleman, this man will not be playing 3rd base for the Phillies</p>
<p><a href="http://deadspin.com/5901026/mark-reynolds-is-the-worst-third-baseman-in-baseball" rel="nofollow">http://deadspin.com/5901026/mark-reynolds-is-the-worst-third-baseman-in-baseball</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy T</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he&#039;d probably get at least a little bit more before he retired, but 2nd worst isn&#039;t really something to strive for either]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;d probably get at least a little bit more before he retired, but 2nd worst isn&#8217;t really something to strive for either</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, hey, hey, don&#039;t be moving Thome along that way quite yet.  Sheesh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, hey, hey, don&#8217;t be moving Thome along that way quite yet.  Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But, how&#039;s his makeup?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, how&#8217;s his makeup?</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...and defensive ability is rarely considered for position players.  There are dozens of horrible fielders that could mash in the HOF and dozens of fantastic fielders that were average hitters that never sniffed the HOF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and defensive ability is rarely considered for position players.  There are dozens of horrible fielders that could mash in the HOF and dozens of fantastic fielders that were average hitters that never sniffed the HOF.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[paperbag, Reynolds led the league in Strikeouts 4 years in a row, and would have last year if he would have had enough plate appearances.  The Phillies already have enough strikeouts in the lineup.  This is a case where you are trying to fit a round peg into the square hole.  Young doesn&#039;t strike out.  Reynolds does.  Phillies don&#039;t need the power...they need someone who can put the ball in play, move runners, etc.  Young fits better with the Phillies than Reynolds or Chavez.  Now I would rather have had the Greek God of Walks for a couple years, but the Phillies obviously think they have 3B help in the Minors for 2014 and didn&#039;t want to sign Youk for 2 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paperbag, Reynolds led the league in Strikeouts 4 years in a row, and would have last year if he would have had enough plate appearances.  The Phillies already have enough strikeouts in the lineup.  This is a case where you are trying to fit a round peg into the square hole.  Young doesn&#8217;t strike out.  Reynolds does.  Phillies don&#8217;t need the power&#8230;they need someone who can put the ball in play, move runners, etc.  Young fits better with the Phillies than Reynolds or Chavez.  Now I would rather have had the Greek God of Walks for a couple years, but the Phillies obviously think they have 3B help in the Minors for 2014 and didn&#8217;t want to sign Youk for 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[drunkcepts was the problem...he&#039;d be fine 98% of the time, lots of posts, lots of strong opinions, loved loved loved the Phillies to no end....but then he&#039;d get on some racist or xenophobic kick and he would spiral out of control in the matter of minutes, and got himself banned.  He came back once or twice and the powers that be let him stick around a while even though they were aware of him (at least once)....but that didn&#039;t last long, he went off the deep end again within a week or so...always the same issue that got him banned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drunkcepts was the problem&#8230;he&#8217;d be fine 98% of the time, lots of posts, lots of strong opinions, loved loved loved the Phillies to no end&#8230;.but then he&#8217;d get on some racist or xenophobic kick and he would spiral out of control in the matter of minutes, and got himself banned.  He came back once or twice and the powers that be let him stick around a while even though they were aware of him (at least once)&#8230;.but that didn&#8217;t last long, he went off the deep end again within a week or so&#8230;always the same issue that got him banned.</p>
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		<title>By: wpjohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wpjohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Starting pitchers aren&#039;t elected to H of F based upon their hitting ability.  Your argument is silly and you should know it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting pitchers aren&#8217;t elected to H of F based upon their hitting ability.  Your argument is silly and you should know it.</p>
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		<title>By: shynessismyelguapo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shynessismyelguapo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, of all the handringing over Jim Rice and potentially Jack Morris, both of whom are not good choices for the Hall of Fame at all, you could at least say &quot;Well, at least they aren&#039;t the worst player in the Hall!&quot;. 

If Michael Young were to make the hall (which he almost certainly won&#039;t), *he literally would be the worst player in the hall of Fame*.  His 22 WAR is tied with that of Waner (whichever one wasn&#039;t the awesome on, I can never remember which is which unless I look it up) for the lowest WAR of a HOF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, of all the handringing over Jim Rice and potentially Jack Morris, both of whom are not good choices for the Hall of Fame at all, you could at least say &#8220;Well, at least they aren&#8217;t the worst player in the Hall!&#8221;. </p>
<p>If Michael Young were to make the hall (which he almost certainly won&#8217;t), *he literally would be the worst player in the hall of Fame*.  His 22 WAR is tied with that of Waner (whichever one wasn&#8217;t the awesome on, I can never remember which is which unless I look it up) for the lowest WAR of a HOF.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does Reynolds bring that Young doesn&#039;t?  Boat loads of power and patience at the plate, meaning he is not a BABIP-reliant hitter and therefore is more consistent in his production.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Reynolds bring that Young doesn&#8217;t?  Boat loads of power and patience at the plate, meaning he is not a BABIP-reliant hitter and therefore is more consistent in his production.</p>
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		<title>By: clydeserra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clydeserra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Esteban Loiza would be interested to note that Michael Young had not been traded before the age of 35.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esteban Loiza would be interested to note that Michael Young had not been traded before the age of 35.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, in 1996, Mark Grudzielanek hit .306 with 201 hits, stole 33 out of 40 bases, and did just about everything he was asked to do leading off for the 2nd place Expos.  But because he didn&#039;t  hit 36 more Home Runs or have an OBP 120 points higher, he sucked.  OK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, in 1996, Mark Grudzielanek hit .306 with 201 hits, stole 33 out of 40 bases, and did just about everything he was asked to do leading off for the 2nd place Expos.  But because he didn&#8217;t  hit 36 more Home Runs or have an OBP 120 points higher, he sucked.  OK.</p>
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		<title>By: delsj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[delsj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Angelo is not your friend.  Angelo is nobody&#039;s friend. If Angelo were an ice cream flavor, he&#039;d be pralines and dick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angelo is not your friend.  Angelo is nobody&#8217;s friend. If Angelo were an ice cream flavor, he&#8217;d be pralines and dick.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought it was a self-imposed ban? 

I actually do miss his posts sometimes. Insane? Yes, but he was never boring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was a self-imposed ban? </p>
<p>I actually do miss his posts sometimes. Insane? Yes, but he was never boring.</p>
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		<title>By: brewcrewfan54</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewcrewfan54]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That sums it up pretty well. Yeah all I remember about him is he was a huge phillie fan and that he didn&#039;t back down from his opinions. I don&#039;t recall any racist comments. I guess I wasn&#039;t sure if he finally went off the deep end so they got rid of him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sums it up pretty well. Yeah all I remember about him is he was a huge phillie fan and that he didn&#8217;t back down from his opinions. I don&#8217;t recall any racist comments. I guess I wasn&#8217;t sure if he finally went off the deep end so they got rid of him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy T</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I mean, I would like to do those things, too, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s gonna happen...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, I would like to do those things, too, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s gonna happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shynessismyelguapo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shynessismyelguapo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds logical enough.  

Here are some other players who clearly need to be removed from the Hall of from consideration due to their careers being extended by the DH

Reggie Jackson
Carl Yastrzemski
Frank Thomas
Dave Winfield
Jim Thome
Eddie Murray
Frank Robinson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds logical enough.  </p>
<p>Here are some other players who clearly need to be removed from the Hall of from consideration due to their careers being extended by the DH</p>
<p>Reggie Jackson<br />
Carl Yastrzemski<br />
Frank Thomas<br />
Dave Winfield<br />
Jim Thome<br />
Eddie Murray<br />
Frank Robinson</p>
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