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The Cubs would eat $26 million of the $36 million owed Alfonso Soriano

Dec 13, 2012, 11:00 AM EDT

Alfonso Soriano AP

The Cubs ate a lot of Carlos Zambrano‘s contract when he went to the Marlins just to be rid of him and they are willing to do the same thing with Alfonso Soriano, reports Jon Heyman: specifically, $26 million of the $36 million Soriano is owed over the next two seasons.

The catch: you gotta give the Cubs an actual prospect.

Which might be tempting for a lot of teams, depending on how good the prospect is.  Soriano hit .262/.322/.499 with 32 home runs and 108 RBI in 151 games this past season for Chicago. And while he’s not likely to repeat those numbers again in 2013, some power and durability in left field or at DH for $5 million a year is quite a bargain these days.

  1. tbbucs621 - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Rays need to jump on this as we have some good talent in the minors still.

    • jehzsa - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:40 PM

      The way Andrew Friedman is working lately, the Rays might be the ones getting two prospects from the Cubs.
      :)

  2. xpensivewinos - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    So someone will get Soriano for 2 years/10 mil for the price of whatever the Cubs feel is an “actual” prospect.

    In other words, Jonny Gomes money……

  3. chacochicken - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    I wonder if GMs have ever considered killing a player because his contract is so incredibly bad…Maybe just benign neglect like letting Vernon Wells get drunk and pilot the speed boat or encourage skydiving or something.

    • Gobias Industries - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM

      That was ALMOST funny in a dark sort of way until you mentioned the drunk speed boat-piloting thing: http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/03/a_moonless_evening_a_quiet_lak.html

      • chacochicken - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:30 PM

        Wasn’t really trying to be funny. People have certainly died over much smaller amounts of money. As unscrupulous and questionable some of the gm/owners seem to be I just think this notion has crossed their minds before.

      • zzalapski - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM

        Sounds like a Law and Order episode.

    • deepstblu - Dec 13, 2012 at 3:53 PM

      Could be the plot of the first of a series of baseball-themed mystery novels. Suggested title: “Dead Pull Hitter”

  4. number42is1 - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Trade cano/hughes/grandy to the M’s for Felix then get Hamilton to replace Grandy for 3 yrs $75 and trade Nova for Soriano to play 2nd base. done and done!

    • jolink653 - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM

      No offense, but I just vomited a little in my mouth even thinking about that scenario

      • number42is1 - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:56 PM

        Well i knew it would be an unpopular post but why? seriously.. Cano HAS to be traded due to his request for a ten yr contract. Grandy NEEDS to be traded if they want anything half decent for him and hughes is expendable. so why is it such a bad idea? they drop some serious salary and certainly get a lot better.

      • dan1111 - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM

        This is just a stab in the dark, but maybe it is unpopular because it makes no sense.

        The first deal manages to be a loser for both teams. Why would they trade away Felix Hernandez for three single-season rentals? They are not in win-now mode by any means. On the other hand the Yankees would be giving up two outstanding players this season, and they, unlike the Mariners, will be contenders this season. They don’t “NEED” to trade any player that will be useful this season, because this season matters.

        On the other hand, the Cubs might be happy to trade Soriano for Nova, probably because it is a laughably terrible, ludicrous, smelly, unbelievably awful deal for the Yankees. They would be acquiring two seasons of an old, bad-hitting player while giving up four seasons of a young pitcher with a lot of potential. Soriano couldn’t handle second base a decade ago (back when he wasn’t old), which is why he was moved off that position. But the Yankees would switch him back to second because they had a hole there. Why was that again? Oh yeah, it was that other horrible trade that they made. Maybe if Soriano played really deep, he could also cover the gaping hole that they would have in center field after that deal.

      • jolink653 - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM

        Hamilton isn’t cut out for New York, especially with his addiction problems, King Feliz has an enormous contract which the Mariners would insist on the Yankees taking 100% of even if they ever traded him (especially after getting screwed on the Pineda deal), and Soriano …just no

      • dan1111 - Dec 13, 2012 at 3:12 PM

        @jolink, I agree that the trades would be dumb, but there is nothing more annoying than the “player X isn’t cut out for New York” trope. As if baseball is somehow qualitatively different in the Bronx than anywhere else. Sometimes the Yankees make stupid deals (or even good deals that don’t work out), and this is the fans’ own unique way of rationalizing it. Plus, there is no evidence that Hamilton’s personal issues have affected his game over the last six years, so why bring that into it? And Hernandez is not overpaid

      • jolink653 - Dec 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

        No my point with Hamilton was that he needs to be away from a situation that might cause him to relapse…The Rangers have what? 4 or 5 beat writers? The Yankees have 20 reporters who will hammer him mercilessly when it comes to a slump or a bad game, it’s an entirely different atmosphere and a lot of players cannot handle the constant pressure of performing here…We’re talking about a guy who cannot carry money and has to have a babysitter with him at all times…In New York you can get anything you want at any time and in any place and I just don’t think it would be good for him to be here…Point is moot anyway with the Angels signing him now…And I don’t think King Felix is overpaid because his salary is equivalent to his talent, but if the Yankees are serious about getting under $189 million as they’ve been indicating, then his is not a contract we should be taking on right now

    • irishphilly87 - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:50 PM

      thats actually not too crazy an idea except nova for soriano… but u had me with the Felix trade.. maybe one less player out of those 3… teams dont typically trade 3 MLB players especillay guys like cano and grandy in the same trade…. maybe a cano or grandy and 2 or 3 nice prospects…. but i wouldn’t trade both of them. then sign hamilton like u said and that’d be nice. King Felix is a beast

      • irishphilly87 - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM

        but for the record i’m a diehard Phillies fan and ive been praying for 2 days that we’re getting Hamilton.

      • number42is1 - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

        ok w/e it can be tweaked but other than thumbs down maybe a little feedback. honestly i would like to knwo why folks seem so against it….. so maybe not Nova for soriano.. maybe one of the 2 ‘B’s

  5. illcomm - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    its kind of funny how mlbtraderumors reports stories and the same content appears on nbc sports talk within the hour. its like u guys just reitterate things on this site reported by other sites first.

    • number42is1 - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

      its kind of funny how you do nothing but complain day in and day out about how much you hate his blogs but yet you still read every damn one. you should really look into getting a job

      • zzalapski - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:08 PM

        #42: If by “funny” you mean “pathetic”, sure.

      • dan1111 - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM

        Unlike all the other stuff, this comment actually is kind of funny.

    • Craig Calcaterra - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM

      Or it’s almost as if the basis of MLB Trade Rumors reports is following journalists’ RSS and Twitter feeds and that we do the same thing. With the only difference being that we add a bit of our own editorial analysis and photos to the news nuggets, which means that our content gets up a bit slower.

      • number42is1 - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

        it’s weird watching you get trolled….

      • darthicarus - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM

        Craig, you might want to talk with Brandon McCarthy’s wife about those pills for that issue with your content getting up a bit slower.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:31 PM

        I used to follow MLB Trade Rumors, but this site is 1000% better. The commenters are way easier to piss off here :D

      • Gardenhire's Cat - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM

        Craig, other than adding one of your stock photos these two articles are nearly identical — same editorial analysis:

        http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/ichiro-drawing-interest-prefers-to-stay-with-yankees.html

        http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/24/ichiro-would-prefer-to-stay-with-the-yankees/

        some would call that plagiarism

      • Craig Calcaterra - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:50 PM

        Or some would say that, when you’re summarizing the same article and the topic is limited to how they might fit with a given team, that there’s only a limited number of things one might say, such as to (a) blockquote the nut graf; and (b) cite the players’ stats.

        Now, you may not think this is very worthy or useful. That’s fine. But to suggest that we’re plagiarists is ridiculous. Basically every news/rumors site writes this sort of thing with respect to every report like that. We all follow George King and read the NYP baseball stuff every day. That’s how those things get generated.

      • paperlions - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:54 PM

        As long as Craig is being trolled….did we ever figure out what “jewwy looking means”? Is looking like a bald hipster “jewwy looking”?

      • The Baseball Gods - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:16 PM

        I would agree with your argument, except for the trade that went down between the Royals and Rays for James Shields. The report was first made on twitter at around 10:40PM by multiple sources (Heyman, Rosenthal, etc) Usually MLB Trade Rumors has the story up within 5-10 minutes of a report, yet I guess because it was a Sunday night they were delayed and didn’t get the story up until 11:02PM. Lo and behold HardballTalk didn’t post the story until 11:12PM. So are you going to tell me that your people didn’t get the information from MLB Trade Rumors?

      • The Baseball Gods - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:24 PM

        By the way, I don’t think anyone really cares if you guys get some of your information from MLB Trade Rumors. I Just think you should admit that you do it sometimes and not vehemently deny it.

    • hgulkkcaj - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM

      Its kind of funny how “illcomm” copied and pasted this same comment on other articles in HBT. A little low on attention today illcomm?

      • stex52 - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:37 PM

        You know, last week we all jumped on Craig for being thin skinned on a comment. (I was one of the ones.) But that was this same guy, if memory serves, and he is pretty worthless of late.

        Mixed feelings, but sorry, Craig.

      • Craig Calcaterra - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

        I’ll risk being thin skinned in this instance. Someone can call me a jerk all day long and I don’t give a crap. But I take accusations of plagiarism or things like it very seriously.

      • Gardenhire's Cat - Dec 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM

        Craig, I apologize for my remark about plagiarism — I was out of line.

  6. donkastain - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Wonder if the Indians could offer anything for him. He would fill the biggest offense hole left.

  7. jams56 - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    It’s because the sites are one in the same. Get a clue troll.

  8. goawaydog - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    I would like to see the Giants take a gamble here too, although very unlikely to happen.

  9. anxovies - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    Re plagiarism: In defense of my brother Craig, there are only so many ways to write these off-season stories about trade rumors. it’s like my 101 journalism class in college when somebody asked the professor why soap commercials were all the same and so uniformly bad. He said, “What can you say about soap?”

    • gloccamorra - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:56 PM

      What can you say about soap? What you can say is off the wall stuff to make your product commercial stick out, something obviously false, so everyone knows it’s made up. Something like, “Nine out of ten boys who’ve had their mouths washed out with soap prefer Ivory”. Maybe there’s a baseball blog equivalent, but does HBT need it? It doesn’t matter if it was on Trade Rumors, or Twitter earlier. If you saw it here first, you saw it here first.

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