Comments on: The Cubs would eat $26 million of the $36 million owed Alfonso Soriano http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Thu, 23 May 2013 13:32:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: gloccamorra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-413506 Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:56:41 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-413506 What can you say about soap? What you can say is off the wall stuff to make your product commercial stick out, something obviously false, so everyone knows it’s made up. Something like, “Nine out of ten boys who’ve had their mouths washed out with soap prefer Ivory”. Maybe there’s a baseball blog equivalent, but does HBT need it? It doesn’t matter if it was on Trade Rumors, or Twitter earlier. If you saw it here first, you saw it here first.

]]> By: deepstblu http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-413190 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:53:51 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-413190 Could be the plot of the first of a series of baseball-themed mystery novels. Suggested title: “Dead Pull Hitter”

]]> By: jolink653 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-413184 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:51:54 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-413184 No my point with Hamilton was that he needs to be away from a situation that might cause him to relapse…The Rangers have what? 4 or 5 beat writers? The Yankees have 20 reporters who will hammer him mercilessly when it comes to a slump or a bad game, it’s an entirely different atmosphere and a lot of players cannot handle the constant pressure of performing here…We’re talking about a guy who cannot carry money and has to have a babysitter with him at all times…In New York you can get anything you want at any time and in any place and I just don’t think it would be good for him to be here…Point is moot anyway with the Angels signing him now…And I don’t think King Felix is overpaid because his salary is equivalent to his talent, but if the Yankees are serious about getting under $189 million as they’ve been indicating, then his is not a contract we should be taking on right now

]]> By: Gardenhire's Cat http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-413175 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:47:31 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-413175 Craig, I apologize for my remark about plagiarism — I was out of line.

]]> By: dan1111 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-413081 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:12:11 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-413081 @jolink, I agree that the trades would be dumb, but there is nothing more annoying than the “player X isn’t cut out for New York” trope. As if baseball is somehow qualitatively different in the Bronx than anywhere else. Sometimes the Yankees make stupid deals (or even good deals that don’t work out), and this is the fans’ own unique way of rationalizing it. Plus, there is no evidence that Hamilton’s personal issues have affected his game over the last six years, so why bring that into it? And Hernandez is not overpaid

]]> By: anxovies http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412990 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:32:58 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412990 Re plagiarism: In defense of my brother Craig, there are only so many ways to write these off-season stories about trade rumors. it’s like my 101 journalism class in college when somebody asked the professor why soap commercials were all the same and so uniformly bad. He said, “What can you say about soap?”

]]> By: goawaydog http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412985 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:29:26 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412985 I would like to see the Giants take a gamble here too, although very unlikely to happen.

]]> By: jolink653 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412973 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:18:09 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412973 Hamilton isn’t cut out for New York, especially with his addiction problems, King Feliz has an enormous contract which the Mariners would insist on the Yankees taking 100% of even if they ever traded him (especially after getting screwed on the Pineda deal), and Soriano …just no

]]> By: dan1111 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412971 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:16:11 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412971 Unlike all the other stuff, this comment actually is kind of funny.

]]> By: dan1111 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412968 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:14:08 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412968 This is just a stab in the dark, but maybe it is unpopular because it makes no sense.

The first deal manages to be a loser for both teams. Why would they trade away Felix Hernandez for three single-season rentals? They are not in win-now mode by any means. On the other hand the Yankees would be giving up two outstanding players this season, and they, unlike the Mariners, will be contenders this season. They don’t “NEED” to trade any player that will be useful this season, because this season matters.

On the other hand, the Cubs might be happy to trade Soriano for Nova, probably because it is a laughably terrible, ludicrous, smelly, unbelievably awful deal for the Yankees. They would be acquiring two seasons of an old, bad-hitting player while giving up four seasons of a young pitcher with a lot of potential. Soriano couldn’t handle second base a decade ago (back when he wasn’t old), which is why he was moved off that position. But the Yankees would switch him back to second because they had a hole there. Why was that again? Oh yeah, it was that other horrible trade that they made. Maybe if Soriano played really deep, he could also cover the gaping hole that they would have in center field after that deal.

]]> By: number42is1 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412957 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:57:38 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412957 ok w/e it can be tweaked but other than thumbs down maybe a little feedback. honestly i would like to knwo why folks seem so against it….. so maybe not Nova for soriano.. maybe one of the 2 ‘B’s

]]> By: Craig Calcaterra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412955 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:57:03 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412955 I’ll risk being thin skinned in this instance. Someone can call me a jerk all day long and I don’t give a crap. But I take accusations of plagiarism or things like it very seriously.

]]> By: irishphilly87 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412952 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:51:58 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412952 but for the record i’m a diehard Phillies fan and ive been praying for 2 days that we’re getting Hamilton.

]]> By: zzalapski http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412951 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:51:22 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412951 Sounds like a Law and Order episode.

]]> By: irishphilly87 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412950 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:50:16 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412950 thats actually not too crazy an idea except nova for soriano… but u had me with the Felix trade.. maybe one less player out of those 3… teams dont typically trade 3 MLB players especillay guys like cano and grandy in the same trade…. maybe a cano or grandy and 2 or 3 nice prospects…. but i wouldn’t trade both of them. then sign hamilton like u said and that’d be nice. King Felix is a beast

]]> By: stex52 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412947 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:37:28 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412947 You know, last week we all jumped on Craig for being thin skinned on a comment. (I was one of the ones.) But that was this same guy, if memory serves, and he is pretty worthless of late.

Mixed feelings, but sorry, Craig.

]]> By: chacochicken http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412943 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:30:24 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412943 Wasn’t really trying to be funny. People have certainly died over much smaller amounts of money. As unscrupulous and questionable some of the gm/owners seem to be I just think this notion has crossed their minds before.

]]> By: The Baseball Gods http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412939 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:24:16 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412939 By the way, I don’t think anyone really cares if you guys get some of your information from MLB Trade Rumors. I Just think you should admit that you do it sometimes and not vehemently deny it.

]]> By: The Baseball Gods http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412934 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:16:47 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412934 I would agree with your argument, except for the trade that went down between the Royals and Rays for James Shields. The report was first made on twitter at around 10:40PM by multiple sources (Heyman, Rosenthal, etc) Usually MLB Trade Rumors has the story up within 5-10 minutes of a report, yet I guess because it was a Sunday night they were delayed and didn’t get the story up until 11:02PM. Lo and behold HardballTalk didn’t post the story until 11:12PM. So are you going to tell me that your people didn’t get the information from MLB Trade Rumors?

]]> By: number42is1 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412924 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:56:22 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412924 Well i knew it would be an unpopular post but why? seriously.. Cano HAS to be traded due to his request for a ten yr contract. Grandy NEEDS to be traded if they want anything half decent for him and hughes is expendable. so why is it such a bad idea? they drop some serious salary and certainly get a lot better.

]]> By: paperlions http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412921 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:54:36 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412921 As long as Craig is being trolled….did we ever figure out what “jewwy looking means”? Is looking like a bald hipster “jewwy looking”?

]]> By: Craig Calcaterra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412918 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:50:21 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412918 Or some would say that, when you’re summarizing the same article and the topic is limited to how they might fit with a given team, that there’s only a limited number of things one might say, such as to (a) blockquote the nut graf; and (b) cite the players’ stats.

Now, you may not think this is very worthy or useful. That’s fine. But to suggest that we’re plagiarists is ridiculous. Basically every news/rumors site writes this sort of thing with respect to every report like that. We all follow George King and read the NYP baseball stuff every day. That’s how those things get generated.

]]> By: jolink653 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412915 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:43:59 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412915 No offense, but I just vomited a little in my mouth even thinking about that scenario

]]> By: jehzsa http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412913 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:40:53 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412913 The way Andrew Friedman is working lately, the Rays might be the ones getting two prospects from the Cubs.
:)

]]> By: Gardenhire's Cat http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412909 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:36:38 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412909 Craig, other than adding one of your stock photos these two articles are nearly identical — same editorial analysis:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/ichiro-drawing-interest-prefers-to-stay-with-yankees.html

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/24/ichiro-would-prefer-to-stay-with-the-yankees/

some would call that plagiarism

]]> By: Chris Fiorentino http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412905 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:31:52 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412905 I used to follow MLB Trade Rumors, but this site is 1000% better. The commenters are way easier to piss off here :D

]]> By: darthicarus http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412896 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:12:41 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412896 Craig, you might want to talk with Brandon McCarthy’s wife about those pills for that issue with your content getting up a bit slower.

]]> By: hgulkkcaj http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412895 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:12:33 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412895 Its kind of funny how “illcomm” copied and pasted this same comment on other articles in HBT. A little low on attention today illcomm?

]]> By: Gobias Industries http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412892 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:12:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412892 That was ALMOST funny in a dark sort of way until you mentioned the drunk speed boat-piloting thing: http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/03/a_moonless_evening_a_quiet_lak.html

]]> By: zzalapski http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/the-cubs-would-eat-26-million-of-the-36-million-owed-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-412890 Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:08:43 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=272245#comment-412890 #42: If by “funny” you mean “pathetic”, sure.

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