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	<title>Comments on: Tigers unlikely to be talked into signing Rafael Soriano</title>
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		<title>By: chacochicken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chacochicken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Scott Boras says the Tigers need(!) Soriano. That has to count for something. He showed up at my house once in a truck full of meat and said he had a few boxes left and he just really needed to get rid of them and it would be a real deal. He explained that I needed the meat and he could get his bonus. I ended up paying 38 million over 3 years. Sadly most of the meat spoiled half way through the second season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Scott Boras says the Tigers need(!) Soriano. That has to count for something. He showed up at my house once in a truck full of meat and said he had a few boxes left and he just really needed to get rid of them and it would be a real deal. He explained that I needed the meat and he could get his bonus. I ended up paying 38 million over 3 years. Sadly most of the meat spoiled half way through the second season.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That would be an excellent moment for Illitch to ask Dave Dombrowski to lower the cone of silence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be an excellent moment for Illitch to ask Dave Dombrowski to lower the cone of silence.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Ilitch has a black Aunt Esther who&#039;s gangsta?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Ilitch has a black Aunt Esther who&#8217;s gangsta?</p>
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		<title>By: beelza</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beelza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nah, Ilitch is old but still lucid enough to realize he can&#039;t be alone in a room with a slithering snake like Boras. Enter Mike&#039;s son  Chris and a gaggle of lawyers from Ilitch Holdings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, Ilitch is old but still lucid enough to realize he can&#8217;t be alone in a room with a slithering snake like Boras. Enter Mike&#8217;s son  Chris and a gaggle of lawyers from Ilitch Holdings.</p>
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		<title>By: beelza</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beelza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aunt Esther, on behalf of Mike Ilitch, responds to Boras regarding Soriano contract demand.
Esther say: N*gg* Puhleeez!&quot;  &quot;You must be out yo&#039; damn mutha f****n&#039; mind.&quot;  2 years, 16 million and a great chance to play in the ALCS. Ilitch has bailed Boras&#039; ass out, now it&#039;s time for it to go the other way. These agents are just as slimy as a politicians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aunt Esther, on behalf of Mike Ilitch, responds to Boras regarding Soriano contract demand.<br />
Esther say: N*gg* Puhleeez!&#8221;  &#8220;You must be out yo&#8217; damn mutha f****n&#8217; mind.&#8221;  2 years, 16 million and a great chance to play in the ALCS. Ilitch has bailed Boras&#8217; ass out, now it&#8217;s time for it to go the other way. These agents are just as slimy as a politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: American of African Descent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American of African Descent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t begrudge the athletes one dime of their incredible salaries. However, I do like seeing a player opt out of his contract and then wind up with a lower salary. (I sincerely wish that had happened to A-Rod.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t begrudge the athletes one dime of their incredible salaries. However, I do like seeing a player opt out of his contract and then wind up with a lower salary. (I sincerely wish that had happened to A-Rod.)</p>
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		<title>By: lumpyf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lumpyf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ilitch is 83. Boras knows he&#039;ll eventually catch him in one of his forgetful moments and get the deal done. &quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilitch is 83. Boras knows he&#8217;ll eventually catch him in one of his forgetful moments and get the deal done. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: legacybroken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[legacybroken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha OG, though I imagine that Boras would get Jon Heyman to do the dirty work for him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha OG, though I imagine that Boras would get Jon Heyman to do the dirty work for him.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why? It is obvious that Napoli flunked his physical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? It is obvious that Napoli flunked his physical.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you better start a rumor on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you better start a rumor on that.</p>
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		<title>By: pisano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pisano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll bet that 13+mil one year contract the Yankees offered is looking pretty good right about now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bet that 13+mil one year contract the Yankees offered is looking pretty good right about now.</p>
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		<title>By: missthemexpos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[missthemexpos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting image, myself I picture a small room, Boras and Ilitch each on an uncomfortable fold up chair, steel desk in between, with a lone 60 watt light bulb dangling overhead. On the desk a thick binder extolling the pitching abilities of Soriano, and Boras whispering to Ilitch to look closely at all the information compiled in the binder before coming to the correct decision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting image, myself I picture a small room, Boras and Ilitch each on an uncomfortable fold up chair, steel desk in between, with a lone 60 watt light bulb dangling overhead. On the desk a thick binder extolling the pitching abilities of Soriano, and Boras whispering to Ilitch to look closely at all the information compiled in the binder before coming to the correct decision.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need an update on Napoli and what is holding up his contract signing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need an update on Napoli and what is holding up his contract signing.</p>
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		<title>By: tashkalucy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tashkalucy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Closers can be made. When their price reaches a certain amount, then unless they&#039;re a great like Mariano, it&#039;s not very wise to throw a lot of money at them. 

The Pirates are looking to get something for Hanrahan while he&#039;s at his peak and due for a salary around $7M, while the Indians are looking to do the same with Chris Perez who&#039;s at about he same salary level. Reportedly no one is returning calls offering very much. 

I like Scott and his MO in cases like this is to hold on to the guy and hope for either: 1) a panicked owner or GM, or 2) an injury to a contending teams closer in spring training or early in the season - and if/when those things happen, the Pirates and Indians will be on the phone immediately to the impacted parties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closers can be made. When their price reaches a certain amount, then unless they&#8217;re a great like Mariano, it&#8217;s not very wise to throw a lot of money at them. </p>
<p>The Pirates are looking to get something for Hanrahan while he&#8217;s at his peak and due for a salary around $7M, while the Indians are looking to do the same with Chris Perez who&#8217;s at about he same salary level. Reportedly no one is returning calls offering very much. </p>
<p>I like Scott and his MO in cases like this is to hold on to the guy and hope for either: 1) a panicked owner or GM, or 2) an injury to a contending teams closer in spring training or early in the season &#8211; and if/when those things happen, the Pirates and Indians will be on the phone immediately to the impacted parties.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, the Tigers are NOT kicking Soriano&#039;s tires....wait, how many days has it been since we&#039;ve had a post about who the Red Sox are hot on today?  What?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the Tigers are NOT kicking Soriano&#8217;s tires&#8230;.wait, how many days has it been since we&#8217;ve had a post about who the Red Sox are hot on today?  What?!</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raysfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He has 116 saves in the last 4 years, so I have to disagree with &quot;little closing experience.&quot;  However, relievers are not worth as much as starters; so to be worth 8 figures, I feel that closer would have to be truly elite.  Rafael Soriano is not, in my opinion, at that level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has 116 saves in the last 4 years, so I have to disagree with &#8220;little closing experience.&#8221;  However, relievers are not worth as much as starters; so to be worth 8 figures, I feel that closer would have to be truly elite.  Rafael Soriano is not, in my opinion, at that level.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have this wonderful image of Scott Boras with his knee planted on a prone Mike Illitch&#039;s back, bending one of Illich&#039;s arms behind him painfully, digging a knuckle into the base of Illitch&#039;s skull with his free hand and gently whispering in his ear about all of Soriano&#039;s upside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this wonderful image of Scott Boras with his knee planted on a prone Mike Illitch&#8217;s back, bending one of Illich&#8217;s arms behind him painfully, digging a knuckle into the base of Illitch&#8217;s skull with his free hand and gently whispering in his ear about all of Soriano&#8217;s upside.</p>
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		<title>By: tigers182</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tigers182]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s a 32 year old reliever, with little closing experience and will cost $10 million/year and a first round draft pick. Yah wonder why no one has made an offer yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s a 32 year old reliever, with little closing experience and will cost $10 million/year and a first round draft pick. Yah wonder why no one has made an offer yet?</p>
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