Comments on: Yorvit Torrealba appealed his winter league suspension. To an actual court of law. And won.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:19:10 +0000

All to true. I brought several bags of “conchitas” (a corn snack chip) from Mexico for my Argentine friend in the states. She had a raunchy sense of humor, she was lovely, really….she had hours of fun laughing at the ways should could incorporate those “conchitas” into conversation.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:01:29 +0000

Well, I’d be careful with whatever slang you learn because it’s not universal. One thing in Mexico might mean something different in Argentina. Something mild in Venezuela might be raunchy in Peru… and so on.

By: vallewho

vallewho — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:49:40 +0000

Major sports leagues operate as if they were a totalitarian dictatorship. Due process? what is that?..says_________.

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:24:37 +0000

Oh, I think it’s looney all right. I can’t imagine how that infringes on rights, but ooookaaayyyy.

By: seeinred87

seeinred87 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:13:13 +0000

Thanks, guys. Galletazo I had never heard, bofetada I had. I know classroom Spanish really, really well, but I’ve only ever gotten to speak with native speakers a handful of times, so I know next to no slang.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:41:46 +0000

It doesn’t make it any loonier. To me it would have to be something really, really, really, spectacularly wrong about it to warrant court intervention.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:56:01 +0000

How about bofetada?

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:23:34 +0000

I hate to tell you this but a number of students in the US have gone to court to fight suspensions on the grounds that they infringe on constitutional rights (usually the 1st Amendment).

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:39:19 +0000

Yes, in terms of details, the Judge granted a kind of “stay” for his suspension, pending the final hearing on Thursday. Notice that it still allows him to suit up and play right now. It’s definitely a win for him. It’s going to be a quagmire no matter what happens. It sets a bad precedent too. The league is going to be all the worse because of this decision.

By: seeinred87

seeinred87 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:35:47 +0000

I definitely agree that it’s strange. The point I was trying to make is that (again, based on Spanish that I don’t get to use very often) the court didn’t fully overturn his suspension. Not yet anyway.

If they do though, it seems to take away a lot of power from that league though. Suspension for hitting an umpire overturned? I guess I’ll go ahead and keep this Vaseline handy while I’m on the mound

By: indaburg

indaburg — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:34:35 +0000

The closest I can think is “galletazo” (pronounced: ga-ye-ta-zo).

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:30:37 +0000

To me the issue is the court being involved in the first place. Let me put it this way: imagine a school principal suspending a student a number of days form school because of bad behavior. Imagine the student going to court and getting a hearing having the suspension overturned. Does that even make sense? Really, it’s not the purview of that court to make any decisions regarding disciplinary measures taken by league officials.

By: jehzsa

jehzsa — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:25:32 +0000

The Judge’s order serves as a stay (medida cautelar de amparo) until the final hearing is held. Until that happens, he gets to play.

By: seeinred87

seeinred87 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:01:42 +0000

And although my Spanish is definitely not perfect, I’m pretty sure the article says that the court order just suspends his suspension, with a final hearing on Thursday.

By: seeinred87

seeinred87 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:57:48 +0000

Holy shit, the picture from El Universal is hilarious. I wish it had a better caption though, so I knew how to say “bitchslap” en español

By: DelawarePhilliesFan

DelawarePhilliesFan — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:49:29 +0000

On July 14, 1978, Harvey ejected pitcher Don Sutton for scuffing baseballs in a game he was pitching for the Dodgers. In that instance, Harvey said, he had three baseballs thrown by Sutton that were clearly scuffed.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-14/sports/sp-3221_1_light-rain

On July 14, 1978, (Doug) Harvey ejected pitcher Don Sutton for scuffing baseballs in a game he was pitching for the Dodgers. In that instance, Harvey said, he had three baseballs thrown by Sutton that were clearly scuffed.

“They were all scuffed on Chub Feeney’s name,” Harvey said.

The umpire said he warned the pitcher after the second one and ejected him after the next.

“Don Sutton ran into the dressing room and came out with a typewritten order,” Harvey recalled. “He said, ‘You’ll be hearing from my lawyer.’ I crumpled it up and told him where he could stick it.”

Sutton could have been given a 10-day suspension but instead got off with a warning from then-commissioner Bowie Kuhn.

By: sabatimus

sabatimus — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:44:47 +0000

Defend himself from what? If anything the umpire should counter-sue.

By: The Dangerous Mabry

The Dangerous Mabry — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:37:17 +0000

“Ok, your suspension is overturned, sir, but you’re going to be doing 6 months of community service for assault and battery….”

I mean, once you open things up to the courts, aren’t you just asking for trouble?