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Mets considering Francisco Liriano and Carl Pavano as potential R.A. Dickey replacements

Dec 20, 2012, 9:32 PM EDT

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The Mets jumped at the chance to trade R.A. Dickey to the Blue Jays earlier this week in exchange for catchers Travis d’Arnaud and John Buck, prospect right-hander Noah Syndergaard and prospect outfielder Wuilmer Becerra. While it’s a tall order, they now need to find a way to replace the 2012 NL Cy Young Award winner in their starting rotation.

With that in mind, Ken Davidoff of the New York Post reports that the Mets have reached out to the agents for Francisco Liriano and Carl Pavano, among “many others.” Liriano, 29, had a 5.34 ERA and 167/87 K/BB ratio over 156 2/3 innings this past season between the Twins and White Sox. Pavano will likely come cheaper after being limited to just six starts in 2012 due to a nagging shoulder injury.

As of now, Johan Santana, Jon Niese, Matt Harvey and Dillon Gee are locks for the starting rotation while young arms like Jenrry Mejia, Jeremy Hefner and Collin McHugh are among the internal candidates for the fifth spot. Santana and Gee are both coming off injuries and Harvey has never pitched a full season in the majors, so chances are they’ll add a veteran arm, even if it’s just as simple as bringing back Chris Young. The hope is that prospect right-hander Zack Wheeler will be ready to take a rotation spot at some point in 2013.

  1. mrenthusiasm8 - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    Best of luck from Minnesota!

    • archman102571 - Dec 21, 2012 at 10:58 PM

      Maybe the Mets should ask the Yankees what they think of the idea of signing Pavano. New York wasn’t the place for him last time

  2. alexo0 - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    I’m sure Twins fans may find the possibility of Santana, Liriano and Pavano in the same rotation somewhat interesting.

  3. dalucks - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    Pavano, Liriano, and Young would be nice additions on minimum money deals for 1 year.
    However, as a Mets fan, I hope we have a plan to improve the bullpen. The bullpen cost the Mets alot of games last season.

    • Old Gator - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:43 PM

      Heh heh – wait till you see how many games the starting rotation costs them this season.

      Replace Biggeth Dicketh with Liriano and Pavana? That’s like replacing an amputated leg with a prosthesis made of pipecleaners.

      Good bloody luck.

  4. dalucks - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    The Mets should sign Delmon Young to a minor league deal to provide veteran outfield depth.
    Also, the K-Rod and Jose Valverde should get minor league deals to add depth in the bullpen.
    You have nothing to lose because you are not investing alot of money over a long period of time.

    • ezthinking - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:21 PM

      None of those players will be signing minor league deals.

  5. Jason @ IIATMS - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    Mets also considering serving giant sh!tburgers to their customers while telling them it’s USDA prime.

    • Old Gator - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:46 PM

      I can’t wait (the preceding was a manner of speaking only) until that first epic series between the Mutts and the Feesh this season. It’s going to be like a stickball match between the Three Stooges on one side and Laurel and Hardy on the other, with Dumb and Dumberer coming off the Mutts bench and Abbot and Costello coming off the Feesh’s bench.

      • alexo0 - Dec 20, 2012 at 11:41 PM

        Don’t be crazy. That would never happen. 3 players vs. 2? Let’s get back to reality here.

      • Old Gator - Dec 21, 2012 at 9:06 AM

        There are three answers to your odd assertion that I can think of. Here they are, in order of applicability:

        (1) In the case of these two teams, the “reality” is too horrible to contemplate. I’m much more comfortable at a substantial remove.

        (2) I said it was going to be like a stickball game. If you’ve never seen a stickball game played by a small group of kids, you were either a progeriac blowing through your childhood before you had time to learn how to play it, you were a trogged-out video child weaned on virtual baseball games that always had the “correct” number of players, or you are an android with a faulty memory chip into which the stickball module of your adolescent period was never downloaded properly.

        (3) It is entirely possible that either one or both of these ownerships could institute a payroll policy that would result in a five man roster – the Mutts out of financial incompetence, and the Feesh out of irremediable miserliness.

      • cackalackyank - Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

        But, but Gator…the Muts resigned David Wright…and the Feeesh still have Giancarlo Stanton (well for now)….. it will be great….you have Jeff and Fred’s word on it.

      • Old Gator - Dec 21, 2012 at 1:18 PM

        In other words, we’re back to our two or three man stickball teams, aren’t we? So you see how this works now? There are multiple layers of jolligory and delusion in my stream-of-cognizance commentary. Any of the last surviving Civil War veterans on this blog will tell you I choose my petitfours with a jeweler’s eye.

  6. joeyashwi - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    Funny. Santana, Dickey, Liriano, and Pavano…all ex-Twins. It would make a pretty good rotation, especially in the NL. I know Dickey is gone and the Mets are just looking at options but Dickey had much better luck in the NL so the others might as well. Other ex-Twins doing pretty well in the NL include Lohse and Garza. I think the Twins are an NL farm team. Doh!

  7. blockedshotnyr - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Would prefer Liriano to Pavano just on sheer upside and potential trade appeal at the deadline – wonder how much they’d have to give Marcum on a one year deal… Would love to pull him in – would be a great fit for the ballpark and likely would bring quite a bit in a trade.

    • Old Gator - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:47 PM

      Perhaps as much as a skid of organic fertilizer. They say it’s going to be a rainy summer in Neverneverland.

  8. Brandon - Dec 20, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    I second those wishes, Best of Luck from Minnesota! They’ll need it if they ink either of these guys.

  9. mnjoemama - Dec 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    If you mets fans didn’t like pelfreys hand licking , wait till you see Pavano limp and wince off the mound every inning. Also hold tight for the roller coaster with franky , it’s a bumpy ride!

  10. DonRSD - Dec 21, 2012 at 2:55 AM

    I’ve always liked Liriano.
    Go get him….LETS GO METS!!!

    • Old Gator - Dec 21, 2012 at 9:31 AM

      Go where? It’s going to be a very short trip. Don’t waste your money on a subway card. Walk it.

  11. sdelmonte - Dec 21, 2012 at 4:25 AM

    I like the rotation as it is, with all the younger pitchers and a farm system that is pretty good in this one area. And better to stick with Chris Young than these options.

  12. adenzeno - Dec 21, 2012 at 6:53 AM

    In other news, Playboy will make Joan Rivers Miss December…..

    • Old Gator - Dec 21, 2012 at 9:29 AM

      …after narrowly beating out Jan Brewer when a carved sandstone sarcophagus and a pile of linen bandages dating back to the second dynasty were found in her basement and established that she was over the legal age limit.

  13. bigjimatch - Dec 21, 2012 at 7:16 AM

    I just can’t take David off seriously after reading that he voted for Kenny Lofton to go in the hall of fame, but not Mike Piazza.

  14. temporarilyexiled - Dec 21, 2012 at 7:55 AM


    All-zombie team.

    • Old Gator - Dec 21, 2012 at 9:09 AM

      And they’re still going to have to wander out in the parking lot at night to find nourishment. Eating the brains of the Mutts front orifice would be like that hour after a Chinese dinner.

      • temporarilyexiled - Dec 21, 2012 at 9:19 AM

        And then the stark realization that you didn’t order enough to have leftovers.

  15. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Dec 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    Nothing wrong with picking up a veteran or two to help with the heavy lifting. On pure pitching upside, I like Liriano better than Pavano. The biggest problem with Liriano though, is that even he doesn’t know what he’s doing. That does not bode well for his mentoring ability. Perhaps someone like Freddy Garcia would make more sense, as he has learned (by necessity) every trick in the book, and could help teach the younger guys.

    • Old Gator - Dec 21, 2012 at 1:21 PM

      With Liriano signing with Peetsburgh today, that leaves Pavano. The way his career has gone, you’re gonna have to pick up this particular veteran with a forklift.

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