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	<title>Comments on: Andruw Jones still a far better player than Terence Moore is a writer</title>
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		<title>By: ronaldjones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ronaldjones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a cheap attempt to create baseball &quot;news&quot; when there&#039;s nothing there. I come to this site to read about baseball, not some smug, bitter criticism of writers with higher paying and more visible jobs than the PBT guys. (This article really comes across as &quot;Hey look, this guy isn&#039;t a very good writer and can you believe he gets to write for MLB.com and I don&#039;t!?!?&quot;) I have no idea why this warranted an entry on this site. Sad. Really sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a cheap attempt to create baseball &#8220;news&#8221; when there&#8217;s nothing there. I come to this site to read about baseball, not some smug, bitter criticism of writers with higher paying and more visible jobs than the PBT guys. (This article really comes across as &#8220;Hey look, this guy isn&#8217;t a very good writer and can you believe he gets to write for MLB.com and I don&#8217;t!?!?&#8221;) I have no idea why this warranted an entry on this site. Sad. Really sad.</p>
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		<title>By: badintent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[badintent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never mind the thumbs down, see my comment above, keep posting, the world didn&#039;t end ( too bad, we would have have less lower class primates yapping on Hardball)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind the thumbs down, see my comment above, keep posting, the world didn&#8217;t end ( too bad, we would have have less lower class primates yapping on Hardball)</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan1111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 15:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@reflex, I do agree that he is not close to being the best player of the last 20 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@reflex, I do agree that he is not close to being the best player of the last 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: bigmeechy74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigmeechy74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haha thanks. And yeah I wish I was going to play baseball in Japan also. My friend moved there and he loves it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha thanks. And yeah I wish I was going to play baseball in Japan also. My friend moved there and he loves it.</p>
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		<title>By: badintent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[badintent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 05:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry about the thumbs down, you&#039;ve asked the bloggers here to think, that just adds to their concussion brain damage from typing. .........Happy Holidays

But Hey, I wish I was Andrew Jones heading to Japan, all that fresh sushi and Wagyu beef steaks, those racing  girls and small ballparks to hit in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry about the thumbs down, you&#8217;ve asked the bloggers here to think, that just adds to their concussion brain damage from typing. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Happy Holidays</p>
<p>But Hey, I wish I was Andrew Jones heading to Japan, all that fresh sushi and Wagyu beef steaks, those racing  girls and small ballparks to hit in.</p>
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		<title>By: bigmeechy74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigmeechy74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 03:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha  wow all these knowledgeable baseball fans are honestly trying to tell me that defense is just as important as hitting. Ha! So by that rational you&#039;d just as soon have brendan ryan than Miguel Cabrera. Absurd! Miguel Cabrera is a below average fielder and that really killed the tigers! And all those yankee teams that make the playoffs the last few years are stacked with elite defenders! Not! HITTING AND PITCHING WIN]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha  wow all these knowledgeable baseball fans are honestly trying to tell me that defense is just as important as hitting. Ha! So by that rational you&#8217;d just as soon have brendan ryan than Miguel Cabrera. Absurd! Miguel Cabrera is a below average fielder and that really killed the tigers! And all those yankee teams that make the playoffs the last few years are stacked with elite defenders! Not! HITTING AND PITCHING WIN</p>
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		<title>By: bigmeechy74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigmeechy74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably. But honestly the playoffs are a crap shoot. Such a small sample size. I don&#039;t think it matters that much once you get in the playoffs whether you are built on pitching or hitting. It&#039;s just a matter if your players are hot. The rangers were clearly the best team in baseball the last 2 years and were so unlucky to lose but they ran up against a hot david freese etc. Also if pitching made it THAT easy to win in the playoffs then the Braves would&#039;ve won every year in the 90&#039;s instead of just once. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably. But honestly the playoffs are a crap shoot. Such a small sample size. I don&#8217;t think it matters that much once you get in the playoffs whether you are built on pitching or hitting. It&#8217;s just a matter if your players are hot. The rangers were clearly the best team in baseball the last 2 years and were so unlucky to lose but they ran up against a hot david freese etc. Also if pitching made it THAT easy to win in the playoffs then the Braves would&#8217;ve won every year in the 90&#8242;s instead of just once. </p>
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		<title>By: djpostl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djpostl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 02:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably pretty close over course of the season but in all likelihood you&#039;d be getting a Yankees style disappointment with a quick exit in the playoffs lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably pretty close over course of the season but in all likelihood you&#8217;d be getting a Yankees style disappointment with a quick exit in the playoffs lol.</p>
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		<title>By: bigmeechy74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigmeechy74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s hilarious how many thumbs down I got for that comment. More proof that people don&#039;t think, they just have knee jerk reactions. I&#039;m glad you at least agree with me on the fielding part. And I agree with you too when it comes to post season series. I said pitching is just as if not more important in a short series. But I&#039;m talking about if I were building a team I would gear it towards 50/40/10. But I found something that helps my case, and Im not saying that Bill James is the final authority on these matters but he said this...&quot; According to James, baseball is on average and a very unstable average, 45% hitting, 36% pitching, 16% fielding and 3% baserunning. These are the percentages by which each aspect of the game affect the outcomes of games. So according to James, who has indisputably done the research, hitting affects the game more than does pitching.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s hilarious how many thumbs down I got for that comment. More proof that people don&#8217;t think, they just have knee jerk reactions. I&#8217;m glad you at least agree with me on the fielding part. And I agree with you too when it comes to post season series. I said pitching is just as if not more important in a short series. But I&#8217;m talking about if I were building a team I would gear it towards 50/40/10. But I found something that helps my case, and Im not saying that Bill James is the final authority on these matters but he said this&#8230;&#8221; According to James, baseball is on average and a very unstable average, 45% hitting, 36% pitching, 16% fielding and 3% baserunning. These are the percentages by which each aspect of the game affect the outcomes of games. So according to James, who has indisputably done the research, hitting affects the game more than does pitching.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dcfan4life</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dcfan4life]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is only 1 player who stayed with the Braves start to finish through their glory years until retirement and thats Chipper Jones. Whats more is how many other first ballot Hall Of Famers that are still playing ended up staying with one team their entire career? Jeter comes to mind, really cant think of another who would retire before switching teams. Shows even more what a stupid comment that was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only 1 player who stayed with the Braves start to finish through their glory years until retirement and thats Chipper Jones. Whats more is how many other first ballot Hall Of Famers that are still playing ended up staying with one team their entire career? Jeter comes to mind, really cant think of another who would retire before switching teams. Shows even more what a stupid comment that was.</p>
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		<title>By: djpostl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djpostl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do tend to agree with you on your assessment of defense vs hitting, just not the pitching part of your equation.

The piece I linked goes into detail about just how many incredible plays a team would have to make, ten fold above what the best of defensive teams do in a typical year, to have the same impact as a marginally better hitting team.

Defense shouldn&#039;t be neglected but it is best used to mitigate your own offensive shortcomings, i.e. if a dude can&#039;t hit well he better be able to pick it.

But when looking at all three categories pitching is easily the most important. One-third of World Series champions have had offenses that were below league average. Only a handful of WS winners had pitching that was less than league average.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do tend to agree with you on your assessment of defense vs hitting, just not the pitching part of your equation.</p>
<p>The piece I linked goes into detail about just how many incredible plays a team would have to make, ten fold above what the best of defensive teams do in a typical year, to have the same impact as a marginally better hitting team.</p>
<p>Defense shouldn&#8217;t be neglected but it is best used to mitigate your own offensive shortcomings, i.e. if a dude can&#8217;t hit well he better be able to pick it.</p>
<p>But when looking at all three categories pitching is easily the most important. One-third of World Series champions have had offenses that were below league average. Only a handful of WS winners had pitching that was less than league average.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reflex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dan -

You are kind of making my point.  The assertion was that he was the best player of the past 20 years.  He is not, and most of the time he is not the best player on his own team.  He is, however, a consistently elite player on a consistently elite team, and a certain first ballot HOFer.  But that does not make him the best player of the past 20 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan -</p>
<p>You are kind of making my point.  The assertion was that he was the best player of the past 20 years.  He is not, and most of the time he is not the best player on his own team.  He is, however, a consistently elite player on a consistently elite team, and a certain first ballot HOFer.  But that does not make him the best player of the past 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: madhatternalice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[madhatternalice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lynn Hoppes approves of this rewriting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn Hoppes approves of this rewriting.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Pouliot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Pouliot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alternatively, Jones may have been a huge natural talent who decided against using steroids to extend his career.

In the old days, it wasn&#039;t uncommon at all for excellent players to fall apart in their early 30s. Even if you just go back to the 80s, you can take Lynn, Mattingly, Murphy, Parker, Strawberry and Simmons as guys who appeared well on their way to the HOF through age 30.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternatively, Jones may have been a huge natural talent who decided against using steroids to extend his career.</p>
<p>In the old days, it wasn&#8217;t uncommon at all for excellent players to fall apart in their early 30s. Even if you just go back to the 80s, you can take Lynn, Mattingly, Murphy, Parker, Strawberry and Simmons as guys who appeared well on their way to the HOF through age 30.</p>
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		<title>By: ndirishfan1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ndirishfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I once saw Terrance Moore go on television and talk about how the Lions not being able to win a Super Bowl is the greatest mystery since who shot JFK... Just an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once saw Terrance Moore go on television and talk about how the Lions not being able to win a Super Bowl is the greatest mystery since who shot JFK&#8230; Just an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: bravojawja</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bravojawja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s nice to see consistency in a writer: Moore was terrible at the AJC, he&#039;s still terrible for MLB.

Andruw Jones was the best center fielder I&#039;ve ever seen. If a ball was hit anywhere between left-center and right-center, you could bet Andruw was camped under it before you could say &quot;Swing and a miss at a ball in the dirt outside for strike three,&quot; which Skip Caray said at the end of not a few of Andruw&#039;s at bats. He took away more bloop singles by playing so shallow than anybody. And could go back on balls, too.

Not sure if he&#039;s HOF material, but he&#039;s in the conversation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see consistency in a writer: Moore was terrible at the AJC, he&#8217;s still terrible for MLB.</p>
<p>Andruw Jones was the best center fielder I&#8217;ve ever seen. If a ball was hit anywhere between left-center and right-center, you could bet Andruw was camped under it before you could say &#8220;Swing and a miss at a ball in the dirt outside for strike three,&#8221; which Skip Caray said at the end of not a few of Andruw&#8217;s at bats. He took away more bloop singles by playing so shallow than anybody. And could go back on balls, too.</p>
<p>Not sure if he&#8217;s HOF material, but he&#8217;s in the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: bigmeechy74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigmeechy74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well if you take out defense then you have the FIP. I dunno how it would look. I&#039;m just saying that if you think about it... almost every ball hit is a routine fly or grounder that 100% of all major leaguers can field. Even the worst defensive players can make the routine plays. So having a good defense only helps a few times a game. Hitting is so much more important. It just is. Are you guys that are giving me the thumbs down saying that defense is 33% of the game?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you take out defense then you have the FIP. I dunno how it would look. I&#8217;m just saying that if you think about it&#8230; almost every ball hit is a routine fly or grounder that 100% of all major leaguers can field. Even the worst defensive players can make the routine plays. So having a good defense only helps a few times a game. Hitting is so much more important. It just is. Are you guys that are giving me the thumbs down saying that defense is 33% of the game?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy T</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 15:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But if you&#039;re going by ERA+, wouldn&#039;t that be a combination of pitching and defense? I wonder how that would look using FIP?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if you&#8217;re going by ERA+, wouldn&#8217;t that be a combination of pitching and defense? I wonder how that would look using FIP?</p>
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		<title>By: purnellmeagrejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purnellmeagrejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[remembering the slender 18-19year old Andruw Jones reminds me of the scene in On the Waterfront where Rod Steiger, I think, is tellling MarlonBrando &quot;At 160 pounds you were beautiful.&quot; Or something of that nature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remembering the slender 18-19year old Andruw Jones reminds me of the scene in On the Waterfront where Rod Steiger, I think, is tellling MarlonBrando &#8220;At 160 pounds you were beautiful.&#8221; Or something of that nature.</p>
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		<title>By: cktai</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Derek Jeter is actually a perfect player specifically for fantasy baseball. It obscures his poor defense, his below average power, and his lack of clutch in the postseason. For real baseball, A-Rod is a much better player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek Jeter is actually a perfect player specifically for fantasy baseball. It obscures his poor defense, his below average power, and his lack of clutch in the postseason. For real baseball, A-Rod is a much better player.</p>
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		<title>By: cktai</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember this one documentary* about Andruw Jones which showed that he had a batting cage and a pitching machine in his own home so that he could get keep practicing whenever he wanted. If that&#039;s not commitment to realise ones baseball potential, I don&#039;t know what is.



*this &quot;documentary&quot; may or may not have been MTV&#039;s cribs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember this one documentary* about Andruw Jones which showed that he had a batting cage and a pitching machine in his own home so that he could get keep practicing whenever he wanted. If that&#8217;s not commitment to realise ones baseball potential, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>*this &#8220;documentary&#8221; may or may not have been MTV&#8217;s cribs.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Moore regurgitates pretty much the same article, using almost the exact same verbiage, this time around because it&#039;s &quot;sad, really sad&quot; that Jones signed with the Rakuten Eagles. It&#039;s &quot;sad&quot; to play for a Japanese team? That&#039;s more than a bit condescending, isn&#039;t it? It&#039;s sad to make $3.5 million for a year of playing professional baseball?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Moore regurgitates pretty much the same article, using almost the exact same verbiage, this time around because it&#8217;s &#8220;sad, really sad&#8221; that Jones signed with the Rakuten Eagles. It&#8217;s &#8220;sad&#8221; to play for a Japanese team? That&#8217;s more than a bit condescending, isn&#8217;t it? It&#8217;s sad to make $3.5 million for a year of playing professional baseball?</p>
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		<title>By: wpjohnson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My family and i have closely followed Andruw Jones since he was a 17 year old playing for the Danville Braves in the Appalachian League.  Even then he showed talent that indicated that he was special.  Also, and equally important, he was always congenial and accommodating to fans.  The years passed but he remained a kid at heart.

Andruw Jones had Hall of Fame talent.  He did not have Hall of Fame self discipline.We continue to love Andruw Jones and will keep up with him in Japan..  However, we are disappointed that his ticket to Cooperstown has been lost along the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family and i have closely followed Andruw Jones since he was a 17 year old playing for the Danville Braves in the Appalachian League.  Even then he showed talent that indicated that he was special.  Also, and equally important, he was always congenial and accommodating to fans.  The years passed but he remained a kid at heart.</p>
<p>Andruw Jones had Hall of Fame talent.  He did not have Hall of Fame self discipline.We continue to love Andruw Jones and will keep up with him in Japan..  However, we are disappointed that his ticket to Cooperstown has been lost along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: louhudson23</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 12:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Long and winding and but there it is......&quot;And honestly,defense is not that exciting in baseball&quot;....please....without delving into importance,I find few things more exciting than a great defensive play. I can watch the greatest homers in history and they are memorable only for their timing and situation(which is no small thing) But watching Bobby Thomson,or Maz or Fisk or Carter&#039;s shots are wondrous for when they happened.And no doubt Ibanez&#039; heroics this year for the Yankees are as exciting as they come. But watched next year and they blur. But Brooks Robinson or Mays or Ozzie will always be as seen the art that they are.Mike Trout drew more gasps with his glove and arm than anything his hitting numbers could do to a spread sheet. Watching a long run and catch up the wall or a slick diving and leaping double play is indeed art. Hitting is an art ,but a technical one. I watched Hank Aaron my entire life. His masterful hitting  remains a beautiful to me. But Clemente whirling and firing? Dave Parker to Jim Sundberg in the All Star Game? .Even watching a catcher like Pat Borders work his trade is more interesting than a Bonds at bat. I find the game much less exciting as televised today because the multitude of close shots takes away the movement and angles that make baseball the  game that it is and showcase defense in a realistic manner...which is the reason that I believe so many people find looking at a bunch of numbers and reciting them to be more exciting than actually watching a game(as a contest of baseball and not a number generator,random or otherwise) and hitting being so easily quantitatively ranked  and defense being much more subjective makse one attractive and the other a mindless filler between pitches(to think people find Darwin hard to fathom but buy into zone rating is hilarious to me)
27 outs.Keep it to that and you tend to win. Give them 29 or 30 and things get very difficult.......steroids and superball baseball sucked to me and I am glad it is relatively a bygone era. TV baseball is disappointing in the most beautiful of games is reduced to a parade of isolated shots and jump cuts...runner ball and fielder rarley appearing in the same shot and only at the last step.....and for ten minutes I had no thoughts of guns or bullets...thank you or that....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long and winding and but there it is&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;And honestly,defense is not that exciting in baseball&#8221;&#8230;.please&#8230;.without delving into importance,I find few things more exciting than a great defensive play. I can watch the greatest homers in history and they are memorable only for their timing and situation(which is no small thing) But watching Bobby Thomson,or Maz or Fisk or Carter&#8217;s shots are wondrous for when they happened.And no doubt Ibanez&#8217; heroics this year for the Yankees are as exciting as they come. But watched next year and they blur. But Brooks Robinson or Mays or Ozzie will always be as seen the art that they are.Mike Trout drew more gasps with his glove and arm than anything his hitting numbers could do to a spread sheet. Watching a long run and catch up the wall or a slick diving and leaping double play is indeed art. Hitting is an art ,but a technical one. I watched Hank Aaron my entire life. His masterful hitting  remains a beautiful to me. But Clemente whirling and firing? Dave Parker to Jim Sundberg in the All Star Game? .Even watching a catcher like Pat Borders work his trade is more interesting than a Bonds at bat. I find the game much less exciting as televised today because the multitude of close shots takes away the movement and angles that make baseball the  game that it is and showcase defense in a realistic manner&#8230;which is the reason that I believe so many people find looking at a bunch of numbers and reciting them to be more exciting than actually watching a game(as a contest of baseball and not a number generator,random or otherwise) and hitting being so easily quantitatively ranked  and defense being much more subjective makse one attractive and the other a mindless filler between pitches(to think people find Darwin hard to fathom but buy into zone rating is hilarious to me)<br />
27 outs.Keep it to that and you tend to win. Give them 29 or 30 and things get very difficult&#8230;&#8230;.steroids and superball baseball sucked to me and I am glad it is relatively a bygone era. TV baseball is disappointing in the most beautiful of games is reduced to a parade of isolated shots and jump cuts&#8230;runner ball and fielder rarley appearing in the same shot and only at the last step&#8230;..and for ten minutes I had no thoughts of guns or bullets&#8230;thank you or that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 2010-2011, Jones&#039;s production was better than his career average through 2007.  The perception that he had a &quot;quick decline&quot; is exaggerated because his 2008 was so bad.

Of course steroids are always a possibility, but it is not &quot;obvious&quot;.  Lots of good players decline in their early 30&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2010-2011, Jones&#8217;s production was better than his career average through 2007.  The perception that he had a &#8220;quick decline&#8221; is exaggerated because his 2008 was so bad.</p>
<p>Of course steroids are always a possibility, but it is not &#8220;obvious&#8221;.  Lots of good players decline in their early 30&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan1111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jones&#039;s disastrous 2008 was a shock.  However, he did rebound.  In 2010 and 2011 he was quite valuable, albeit as a part-time player.  When taken as a whole, his stats show a fairly typical decline.  It came earlier than it does for some players, but even that is not too surprising for a guy that always struck out a lot and didn&#039;t have particularly good plate discipline.

In any case, even if Moore&#039;s take on his career is true, the article doesn&#039;t offer any analysis or insight into why it was a disappointing career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jones&#8217;s disastrous 2008 was a shock.  However, he did rebound.  In 2010 and 2011 he was quite valuable, albeit as a part-time player.  When taken as a whole, his stats show a fairly typical decline.  It came earlier than it does for some players, but even that is not too surprising for a guy that always struck out a lot and didn&#8217;t have particularly good plate discipline.</p>
<p>In any case, even if Moore&#8217;s take on his career is true, the article doesn&#8217;t offer any analysis or insight into why it was a disappointing career.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, and strangely when he covers that incident, he goes out of his way to AVOID blaming Jones for a lack hustle: 

&quot;It was a move the manager later said he regretted. He spent the rest of Jones&#039; career dishing out high praise...&quot;

The overall effect is a column that blames Jones for being a disappointment, without actually pointing to anything blameworthy that he did.  I guess it&#039;s Jones&#039;s fault that he wasn&#039;t as talented as Moore thought he was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and strangely when he covers that incident, he goes out of his way to AVOID blaming Jones for a lack hustle: </p>
<p>&#8220;It was a move the manager later said he regretted. He spent the rest of Jones&#8217; career dishing out high praise&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The overall effect is a column that blames Jones for being a disappointment, without actually pointing to anything blameworthy that he did.  I guess it&#8217;s Jones&#8217;s fault that he wasn&#8217;t as talented as Moore thought he was.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan1111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 10:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Reflex, sometimes Jeter is so overrated that he becomes underrated.  Guys like Matsui and Soriano never came close to his value.  

Jeter has led the Yankees in WAR 3 times and was the best position player 2 other times.  Not bad considering the level of talent on the team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Reflex, sometimes Jeter is so overrated that he becomes underrated.  Guys like Matsui and Soriano never came close to his value.  </p>
<p>Jeter has led the Yankees in WAR 3 times and was the best position player 2 other times.  Not bad considering the level of talent on the team.</p>
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		<title>By: getsome99</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[getsome99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fast start.  Quick decline.  Between &#039;98 and &#039;08.  Isn&#039;t it obvious that Jones was on the juice in the beginning of his career?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fast start.  Quick decline.  Between &#8217;98 and &#8217;08.  Isn&#8217;t it obvious that Jones was on the juice in the beginning of his career?</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, except what is the evidence that Jones wasted his potential?  He was an elite defender over a long career, which doesn&#039;t suggest laziness to me.

The real problem was unrealistic expectations imposed by people reading way too much into his two world series home runs (and it was at Yankee Stadium, too!  Gasp!).  As it turns out, two plate appearances is not a large enough sample size from which to project a player&#039;s entire career.

Also, even with Jones&#039;s early decline, he still has a decent Hall of Fame case.  He is 19th all time by defensive WAR, in addition to solidly above-average hitting (434 home runs is not bad, either).  Not that I&#039;m saying he should be in, but he&#039;s not as far off as the article suggests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, except what is the evidence that Jones wasted his potential?  He was an elite defender over a long career, which doesn&#8217;t suggest laziness to me.</p>
<p>The real problem was unrealistic expectations imposed by people reading way too much into his two world series home runs (and it was at Yankee Stadium, too!  Gasp!).  As it turns out, two plate appearances is not a large enough sample size from which to project a player&#8217;s entire career.</p>
<p>Also, even with Jones&#8217;s early decline, he still has a decent Hall of Fame case.  He is 19th all time by defensive WAR, in addition to solidly above-average hitting (434 home runs is not bad, either).  Not that I&#8217;m saying he should be in, but he&#8217;s not as far off as the article suggests.</p>
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