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Eye on 200 wins, Livan Hernandez intends to keep pitching

Dec 23, 2012, 7:47 PM EDT

Livan Hernandez AP

Although he lost his fastball years ago and was unable to find a rotation spot last season, free agent Livan Hernandez wants to keep on pitching in 2013.

So, yeah, 200 is a big long shot for the “37-year-old” right-hander. Hernandez spent 2012 as a reliever for the Braves and Brewers and finished with a 6.42 ERA in 67 1/3 innings. It’s not quite as bad as it sounds; he gave up 11 of his 31 runs in his last two appearances, both of which came following long layoffs in September. Still, even throwing that out, he was a mop-up man with a 5.05 ERA. At least he did go 4-1.

Hernandez is currently sixth on the active wins list. The current leader, Jamie Moyer (269), is likewise iffy to get a job next year, while No. 2 on the list, Andy Pettitte (245), has already retired and come back. The only righties ahead of Hernandez are Roy Halladay (199) and Tim Hudson (197). CC Sabathia (191) is in fifth place.

  1. redguy12588 - Dec 23, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    So based on his recent pace, he’d have to play for another 6 seasons to get to 200 wins.

    • dan1111 - Dec 24, 2012 at 4:26 AM

      If he can return to his stellar 2011 form, he could do it in three seasons (and it would only take two of them to reach 200 losses).

  2. tfbuckfutter - Dec 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    He’s got a good shot at it….you know, seeing as he’s only 27 or 28 years old by now.

    • tfbuckfutter - Dec 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM


      I just actually looked it up after making that joke…..Officially he is only 37 years old.


  3. uuddlrlrbastart - Dec 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    Have to burnish those Hall of Fame credentials. He’s been named his team’s Opening Day starter 8 times!

  4. lazlosother - Dec 23, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    While we’re all laughing our asses off, we might take a minute to admit that with the current talent level in MLB he just might make it.

  5. natslady - Dec 23, 2012 at 8:43 PM

    Livo was fun as a Nat, and I have a jersey he signed. BUT–the cynic in me says, um, he probably needs the money more than the 200 wins.

    • advantageschneider - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:02 PM

      He’s made $53M in his career. Another $800k isn’t going to help him if he’s already blown the $53M.

      • Old Gator - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM

        I look at it this way: if you make $53 million and spend $53 million and one, you’re broke. Keep on flinging that spheroid, Levan!

  6. micker716 - Dec 23, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    Without Eric Gregg, 200 isn’t going to happen.

    • Old Gator - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM

      Why blame Gregg? Did anyone put a gun to those Indians batters’ heads and order them to take those pitches?

      • micker716 - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:48 PM

        My bad, they should have used longer bats.

      • blugold94 - Dec 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

        I believe the game being referenced was in the NLCS against Atlanta and not the WS vs. the Indians.

  7. vallewho - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

    isn’t CC a lefty?

  8. blacksables - Dec 24, 2012 at 7:51 AM


    What’s the point of that? Do you know something, or are you just making baseless accusations?

    You know, the same thing you claim sportswriters do when they deceide not to vote for guys they ‘think’ took steroids?

    This is extremely hypocritical on your part. If you have proof, show it. If you don’t, then you’re no different than the people you complain about on a daily basis.

    • lazlosother - Dec 24, 2012 at 9:07 AM

      The point is that many people think Livan is a good bit older than his stated age. There was no steroid accusation.

      • blacksables - Dec 24, 2012 at 10:40 AM

        Didn’t say there said. Matthew is making accusations about his age not being what he says it is.

        My point is, if he has proof show it. If he doesn’t, then has no reason to bring it up.

        In doing so, he is just as bad as the guys who vote for something they ‘think’ was a steroid user. No proof, just accusations.

        Not really sure why I had to type that all over again, since I said exactly the same thing in the original comment.

        I guess Christmas is starting early for some people.

      • Matthew Pouliot - Dec 24, 2012 at 4:14 PM

        Yes, it’s just like that. Exactly.

        Anyway, Livan was born in Cuba. His agent when he arrived in the U.S. (Joe Cubas) was notorious for falsifying ages. His half-brother, Orlando, proved to be four years older than his listed age.

        And there’s certainly reason for bringing it up, given that Hernandez is a free agent. Though his age would make more difference if he were a hitter, if teams really believed he was 37 (they don’t), they might be more likely to make him an offer than if they knew he was 40 or 41 or whatever.

        As for your other point, while I’ve launched any number of complaints about sportswriters through the years, I don’t think I’ve ever quite gone that route. I don’t complain about sportswriters not voting for someone because they think they used steroids. I have, however, complained about them being hypocritical about it. And I think if they’re not going to vote for someone based on their steroid theories, they should be up front about it, instead of some of the BS Bagwell non-votes we’ve seen.

      • blacksables - Dec 25, 2012 at 4:17 AM

        If you think Hernandez is lying about his age, then you should be up front about it and actually say it, instead of pussyfooting around it.

        Why be a smartass about it and put it in quotation marks? You’re making baseless accusations and not providing anything to back it up. Another good example of your yellow journalism.

  9. ndnut - Dec 24, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Twinkies’ll pick him up! The more washed up pitchers the merrier!

  10. cadillacjosh - Dec 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    i gotta say, I’m not sure why you typed that all over again either.

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