Skip to content

Torii Hunter says having an openly gay teammate would be “difficult and uncomfortable”

Dec 30, 2012, 6:03 PM EDT

hunter getty Getty Images

The math says that Torii Hunter — a 16-year major league veteran who has played with several hundred different teammates over the course of his amateur and professional baseball careers — has probably shared a clubhouse with a gay man. But math and science and reality aren’t things that the 37-year-old outfielder chooses to dabble in. Neither is decency.

This comes from an article on sexual orientation in the realm of high-level professional sports, written by Kevin Baxter of the Los Angeles Times:

Former Angels outfielder Torii Hunter, among baseball’s most thoughtful and intelligent players, isn’t kidding when he says an “out” teammate could divide a team.

“For me, as a Christian … I will be uncomfortable because in all my teachings and all my learning, biblically, it’s not right,” he says. “It will be difficult and uncomfortable.”

Difficult and uncomfortable? Poor Torii.

The New Testament spends many more pages preaching love and acceptance than it does condemning homosexuality, and it’s quotes like Hunter’s that will prevent any true progress from happening in MLB.

Then again, we can’t expect a known conspiracy theorist to think — or speak — logically.

352 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. beelza - Dec 30, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Torii – Your God loves you. Tigers Nation Worldwide loves. Detroiter’s love you. Yourn fam loves you. Nothing else matters. Now go get that ring man!

    • toosano - Dec 31, 2012 at 1:28 AM

      He’s a homophobic moron who believes in comic books.

      • fanofevilempire - Dec 31, 2012 at 7:01 AM

        no, he is just telling you how HE feels about it and his opinion and if he
        paid his taxes he has a right to express his opinion because it is his
        clubhouse too.

        and I have an opinion that everyone has a right too.

        this is a messy one

        oh boy!

      • hojo20 - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:18 AM

        Freedom of speech.

      • paperlions - Dec 31, 2012 at 9:16 AM

        Yes, he is just telling you how he feels….just like white people are when they say that minorities moving into “their” neighborhoods makes them uncomfortable.

        …..and hojo, this isn’t a freedom of speech issue….no one is suggesting he be fired or imprisoned for his views, just that his views are uneducated and bigoted and that using his religion as a crutch for his bigotry is hypocritical considering his obvious lack of concern for the vast majority of other sins the bible teaches.

      • captainwisdom8888 - Dec 31, 2012 at 11:15 AM

        Smart players stay away from subjects as touchy as this. There are some things best kept to yourself. Ha enjoy the media circus dummy

  2. robinandtony101 - Dec 30, 2012 at 11:40 PM

    actually the Bible does condemn homosexuality it is wrong and they will be judged by God and him alone. the love thy neighbor is talking about witnessing to those who sin against God and bringing them closer to Christ a homosexual person can not call themselves a Christian because they are breaking one of God most detestable sins. but as a Christian if there is one in your clubhouse you are to witness to them and love them into switching their ways.

    • tfbuckfutter - Dec 30, 2012 at 11:48 PM

      Bible also says to stone disrespectful children.

      Amongst other really stupid shit it says, of course.

    • drewsylvania - Dec 30, 2012 at 11:50 PM

      My bible says: Use punctuation.

      • historiophiliac - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:27 AM

        But not properly. (note: the begats)

    • ultimatecardinalwarrior - Dec 31, 2012 at 1:08 AM

      The Bible also says to not charge interest on loans, but we’re not going to throw out our whole economic system now, are we?

      The point is that if you take the Bible literally, you are bound to be a hypocrite.

  3. wpjohnson - Dec 30, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    Good for Hunter for standing on his principles rather than giving the typical politically correct garbage. I think the overwhelming majority of athletes on all levels feel the same. Of course, many are afraid to say so for fear of retaliation from the liberal gestapo.

    • drewsylvania - Dec 30, 2012 at 11:59 PM

      I think one can agree with this sentiment while thinking Torii’s comments are bigoted.

    • dondada10 - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:00 AM

      I don’t think fear is the reason “many” don’t say they don’t wanna be around homosexuals.

    • normcash - Dec 31, 2012 at 2:36 AM

      So now bigotry is a “principle”!

    • brianjoates - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:24 AM

      So, you must have great respect for those folks who fought for slavery, fought to keep black people down by limitng their rights as humans? How about treating women like secong class citizens? Millions of people had their principles crushed by the government by making black people and women equal to whites.

      In 50 -100 years that generation is going to feel the same shame and embarrassment over the treatment of the gay community that white people do now for the treatment of blacks by our ancestors.

    • kirkvanhouten - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:31 AM

      Yeah, good for being a discriminatory douchebag…we should really give him props for that?

    • 18thstreet - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:42 AM

      Good grief; do you know what the Gestapo was?

      World War II is not a fucking punchline.

    • easttoak - Jan 1, 2013 at 5:31 PM

      Would you (or Torii) say the same to all the folks who were uncomfortable with Jackie Robinson being in the club house? I think the St. Louis Cards were going to strike that season because Jackie was signed. Were the Dodgers being “politically correct” when they spoke back at the Phillies and all the racist fans?

      You are very correct that it is Hunters right to say how he feels. But freedom of speech doesn’t make him (or anyone) immune to criticism. To say otherwise really is a limitation of freedom of speech.

  4. jssgriffi - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    Why can’t tori have his opinion and not be ridiculed for it? Just because there is support behind this gay movement doesn’t mean everyone needs to support it. He has every right to have those feelings. Just like gay ppl have every right to have theres. Get over it, sensitivity on this subject is ridiculous.

    • cur68 - Dec 31, 2012 at 1:29 AM

      He can have his opinion. I can have mine. We know his. Mine is that he’s ridiculous. Seems fair.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 6:54 AM

        cur:

        Let’s see, Hunter can have his opinion, and you can have your opinion, but in your opinion “he’s ridiculous.” Do I have that right?

        So apparently, you think you’re better than Torii Hunter because you have a different belief system, and in your mind, and in the minds of people like you, your belief system is more chic then Torii Hunter’s belief system, and this gives you the right to judge him. Is that how it works?

        If you have the right to judge Torii Hunter, then I have the right to judge you, and everyone has the right to judge everyone else. But is that the kind of world we want to live in; a world full of judgmental, self-righteous pricks?

        If the idiom: Judge not lest ye be judged, has any relevance, then your remarks are ridiculous, cur.

      • 32bigg - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:32 AM

        And now you’re judging cur. Your ignorance to your hypocrisy is astounding!

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:06 AM

        32bigg:

        I wasn’t judging anyone. I was discussing the futility of people judging people.

        BTW: Now you’re judging me. My wish for you is enlightenment.

      • 32bigg - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:30 AM

        What makes you think you are the arbiter of what is “judging” and what is “discussion”? You are lucky Tom Cruise is not here because he would call you glib.

        You say something like, “But is that the kind of world we want to live in; a world full of judgmental, self-righteous pricks?”, and then wish for me enlightenment? How self-righteous is that? Dummy.

        You just confirmed my observation (and I bet you’ll do it again). You are a hypocrite, and you are unaware of this.

        Trust me, I need nothing from a person who uses ignorant hypocrisy to justify bigotry, and then offers me enlightenment.

        Wake up dummy.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 11:29 AM

        32big;

        To be enlightened: To be free of ignorance and misinformation. Clearly, you’re going to need an awful lot of enlightenment.

      • 32bigg - Dec 31, 2012 at 11:59 AM

        Wow. Just wow. Oblivious moron.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 2:45 PM

        32big:

        I know that the combined wisdom of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle is hardly enough to fill your intellectual cavity, but I pray that Tinker Bell, in all her glory, sprinkles you with their wisdom tonight as you sleep.

        I hope the light and space of easy listening brings added simplicity to your mind.

        Peace be with you.

    • yahmule - Dec 31, 2012 at 2:23 AM

      Because what he’s saying is that he doesn’t want a particular group of people in the workplace and his feelings would cause a difficult and uncomfortable situation. It’s amazing that people lack the intelligence to understand something so basic.

    • easttoak - Jan 1, 2013 at 5:33 PM

      Why can’t gay people play baseball and not be ridiculed for it? Just because there is support behind this anti-gay movement doesn’t mean everyone needs to support it.

      You seem to think that Torii (or other homophobes) are immune to criticism, no matter the criticism leveled at them?

  5. jssgriffi - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    Also I’m tired of hearing about this homo debate b.s. who gives a crap if you like to bang dudes( feel sorry for ya)I’m so sick of this politically correct garbage with these issues too. If he thinks its wrong then he thinks its wrong, big deal, is that hurting your homosexual feelings? Everyone needs to get of there pedestals and back to reality. Guys screwing guys is the least of this countries worries. WHO CARES IF YOU ARE GAY! GOOD FOR YOU!

    • SOBEIT - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:27 AM

      It’s an issue if those homophobic beliefs shared by enough people prevent homosexuals from pursuing a career in professional sports. Just like Tori would be mad if white people said he cannot earn a living playing baseball and earning a great living doing it…which was a reality in this country not long ago.

      • truth115 - Dec 31, 2012 at 4:17 AM

        Being born black is not a choice, being gay is!!!

      • clydeserra - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:16 AM

        and is something torii hunter has bemoaned in the past

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 9:45 AM

        (not)truth115:
        How ironic you would use science’s advances in electronics by typing an utterly idiotic statement that selectively ignores science’s advances in having proved conclusively that sexual orientation is anything but a “choice.” Are you really dense enough to think someone would choose to be ostracized and ridiculed?

        Is it really that hard to understand that who you are attracted to is biological? Science has documented over a hundred animal species that practice homosexuality, but facts are difficult things for bigots and fools.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:00 AM

        manchestyermiricle:

        In your anger and frustration you seemed to have missed the point entirely, and that is, not every one is fluent with the particulars of biological science.

        To many people, the things you speak of are, and will remain mysteries. Some of the people who don’t understand the details of homosexuality, are good folk who are just set in their ways. They won’t do anything harmful to anyone; they will abide the law, but they will continue to be mystified, and that is not a sin.

        Maybe, you just haven’t found a way to communicate difficult concepts in simpler terms.

      • SOBEIT - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:02 PM

        Protius –

        Wow, you went the science is difficult route? What is so difficult about understanding that being a homosexual is not a choice, just like being born black or any race is not a choice.

        But I guess we need to simply the discussion for people who believe that the earth is a few thousand years old, believe evolution is false, and that god created the universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

        These same religious conservatives spend so much time “entlightening” themselves but cannot find the time to educate themselves. I wonder how they use a computer and understand the complex workings of the internet.

        To accept mediocrity and ignorance is just lazy and you are reaching in trying to support your position.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 2:29 PM

        SOBEIT:

        Clearly, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

        I didn’t say that I don’t understand science, I understand both science and evolution very well. What I did say is: “To many people, the things you speak of are, and will remain mysteries. Some of the people who don’t understand the details of homosexuality, are good folk who are just set in their ways. They won’t do anything harmful to anyone; they will abide the law, but they will continue to be mystified, and that is not a sin.” Now, if you can’t understand that I’m referring to mind sets other then myown, then the problem lies with you, and not me.

        You wrote: “What is so difficult about understanding that being a homosexual is not a choice, just like being born black or any race is not a choice.” People in their late 60s, 70s and 80s get the born black concept, because the idea has been in the public domain for 400 years, but the science and biology of homosexuality is not a topic that they are easily familiar with. They have no idea why it is, and realistically, they have other, more pressing issues to concern themselves with, so if they misspeak on the subject, I’m inclined to give them a pass.

        You wrote: “These same religious conservatives spend so much time “entlightening” themselves but cannot find the time to educate themselves. I wonder how they use a computer and understand the complex workings of the internet.” You seem to be very angry that you cannot impose your ideas on people.
        Maybe you should stop trying.

        Religious folk believe that they are entitled to their opinion, and they are, but progressive minded people believe that their socio-religious insights are archaic, and they are. So does that mean we should stop the dialog with socio-religious conservatives, or should we try to hone our arguments?

        Torii Hunter is not in his 60s, 70s or 80s, so the science and biology of homosexuality is something that he should be aware of. He is a socio-religious conservative, and he has specific ideas re: how thing ought to be. Why don’t you tweet him, or email him, or find a way to contact him, and tell him what you think.

        If you weren’t so lazy or intellectually mediocre, you might have scrolled down, and gotten a better understanding of my opinion about this topic. I’ll repeat it for you, so you won’t risk carpel tunnel syndrome: It’s a big world; there’s room for everyone.

  6. jmays77 - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    He was asked a question and he answered it with his opinion. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? Not everyone is going to feel the same way about gays as others do. Don’t bash a person for not having the same beliefs you do. Who are you to judge?

    • SOBEIT - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:30 AM

      So he can have his opinion but we cannot have our opinion? Are you not judging as well? Check your hypocrite meter.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 7:53 AM

        It’s like a game of circular, suicide dominoes. Everyone judges and condemns to death the person in front of him, until everyone is dead. What’s the point?

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 9:47 AM

      You are allowed to have your own opinion, but not your own facts. Being prejudiced against something that occurs naturally throughout all animal species is incredibly hypocritical coming from a black man.

      • protius - Jan 1, 2013 at 9:36 AM

        Miricle:

        Your appeal to biology is a slippery slope. Just because homosexuality occurs naturally, doesn’t mean that a person who rejects homosexuality is any more of a hypocrite, then the person who rejects Ebola, or poisonous snakes, or gonorrhea, which also regularly occur in nature.

      • easttoak - Jan 1, 2013 at 5:39 PM

        protius –

        You mean that you reject that Ebola, poisonous snakes and gonorrhea aren’t natural? Because that is would be the comparison you are trying to make. Not that they are good/bad.

        Or do you actually mean to say that some people reject the very existence of those things? As if they are figments of someones imagination?

      • protius - Jan 2, 2013 at 5:16 AM

        easttoak:

        My comments describe a fallacy. My ideas are a well reasoned, well organized rebuttal to miracle’s comments, i.e., they explain why miracle’s arguments are a slippery slope.

        You comments, on the other hand, are an incoherent, and poorly articulated corruption of critical analysis. They are a rambling stream of consciousness that misinterpret the point of my arguments, and completely ignore the point of miracle’s original comments.

        Sorry, no soup for you.

  7. chadjones27 - Dec 31, 2012 at 1:34 AM

    I thought with all that ass slapping and crotch grabbing, most ball players were gay…

    • yahmule - Dec 31, 2012 at 2:27 AM

      The homoerotic undercurrent in sports is pretty obvious. A huge percentage of the people who are virulently anti-homosexual are simply conflicted by some of their own latent feelings.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 7:01 AM

        Well, thank you Dr Freud, but sometimes a bat is just a bat.

  8. zeeman911 - Dec 31, 2012 at 1:35 AM

    Let’s the homos get gay cancer AKA Aids!!!

    • drewsylvania - Dec 31, 2012 at 1:48 AM

      Way to hide behind a handle.

    • normcash - Dec 31, 2012 at 2:39 AM

      Geez, what a douche!

  9. drewsylvania - Dec 31, 2012 at 1:49 AM

    Bottom line: hating on anybody is pretty much a waste of time.

    • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 7:04 AM

      But teasing the shit out of ‘em is priceless.

  10. jikkle49 - Dec 31, 2012 at 2:44 AM

    The reality is that a lot of athletes Christian or non Christian would be uncomfortable having a knowingly gay teammate in the locker room.

    Right or wrong that’s just the way it is.

    So I have no problem with Hunter coming out and being honest about it. And a lot of people support how Hunter feels and a lot of people are against his feelings but that’s still the way he feels.

    • paperlions - Dec 31, 2012 at 9:30 AM

      At first, yes, a number of team mates would be uncomfortable with knowing their team mate was gay….and then, rather quickly, nearly all of them would get over it when they realized it didn’t matter….that nothing had changed.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:49 AM

        Lions:

        I’m not trying to be argumentative, in a confrontational sense, but you’ve made a few claims that seem to take things for granted, and I think I would benefit by a deeper explanation.

        You wrote: “A number of team mates would be uncomfortable [...] knowing their team mate was gay [...] then, rather quickly, nearly all of them would get over it when they realized it didn’t matter….that nothing had changed.” What I don’t understand is: Why would a gay player’s team mates “get over it, i.e., the gayness?” Why would they get over it “rather quickly?” And why will it seem “that nothing had changed?”

        I may be wrong, but it seems as if you believe that if Torii Hunter was ever in that situation, he would be uncomfortable at first, but would get over it rather quickly when he realized that nothing had changed. Is that right?

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 9:52 AM

      The reality is that a lot of athetes (white), regardless of religious orientation, were uncomfortable having a known black teammate in the locker room. And that was within my lifetime. Are there still racists in baseball? Of course, just like in the general population. But perhaps you’ve missed the latest polling, which indicates a majority of that general population now supports gay marriage rights.

      Just as it was 50 years ago, most sane, considerate people come to realize that denying another American their rights in the name of bigotry has no place in this country. Perhaps someday people like Hunter (who should obviously know better) will either evolve (pun intended) or die off, just as the hard-core racists who resisted all attempts at racial equality have died off.

    • kirkvanhouten - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 AM

      I have every problem with him being open and honest about it. Because it’s not an opinion, it’s a form of intimidation. It’s a way to saying to every gay person out there that Torii Hunter has a problem with him.

      Fuck Torii Hunter and fuck the pathetic excuse of scumbags who continue to capitulate this discriminatory nonsense. It’s almost 2013…get over it. Stop making millions of people live in fear, live with lesser rights and being made to feel like their outsiders because “you’re uncomfortable”. Guess what Torii…that’s the feeling gay men and women have every day in a world filled with shitheads like you.

  11. scoregasmic - Dec 31, 2012 at 3:12 AM

    I want to start by saying I have no problem with gay people and I don’t think other people should, but blasting torii hunter for what he believes in is not the way to go, in America we have the freedom to do whatever and to believe whatever including being gay, and also being uncomfortable with it

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 9:55 AM

      I think the issue here is one of chosen ignorance. Being “uncomfortable” with something that has nothing whatsoever to do with the task at hand is really admitting that you are preoccupied with something that, in all honesty, shouldn’t bother you unless you are choosing to be an ignorant bigot. Which I find rather hilarious coming from a black man.

  12. jwag777 - Dec 31, 2012 at 3:20 AM

    The bible only needs to condemn something once to make it wrong. Homosexuality is actually one of the few sins that’s mentioned in the Old Testament and repeated in the New Testament. I would say God is emphasizing a point. But it is still no more of a sin than any other. No better, no worse. I agree with you though that as a Christian, Hunter should have more of a loving attitude about it. I’m sure he has his own sins too!

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 9:58 AM

      And I would say that rigidly adhering to a 1,600-year-old text written by relatively ignorant men with their own agendas is really what the problem is here. That and modern people choosing to follow said text.

      Just because some people think something is a “sin” (whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean, other than as a method of oppression) doesn’t make it so. And I’m sure Hunter has his own “sins” as well, the most obvious one here being an ignorant bigot.

    • easttoak - Jan 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

      You folks who keep saying”homosexuality is no worse/better than other sins” keep missing your own hypocrisy. If homosexuality isn’t WORSE, then why do you spend so much time, money and energy trying to legislate against this sin while ignoring far more prevalent sins such as divorce or adultery (which, surprise, are committed fairly common with Christians)? Because, I believe, it isn’t about the sin. Christians are just (once again) using the Bible as a weapon in a fight against things you don’t like or understand.

      And “one of the few” sins in the NT and OT? Did you just make that up or do you have a citation for that statement? It doesn’t sound right, but I’m certainly no Biblical scholar. Of course, when you say “few” , I am taking you literally. The ten commandments would be more than a few by themselves.

      • protius - Jan 2, 2013 at 7:19 AM

        Drinking and the Internet don’t mix.

  13. mazblast - Dec 31, 2012 at 5:08 AM

    Given how far longer his career path Mr. Hunter is, I doubt that he’ll ever have to deal with this “problem”. I don’t agree with his views, but then again, I don’t know the dynamic of the typical major league locker room (nor do most of the rest of this group). I consider his expression of his views to be ill-advised.

    I hope that the first openly gay player, whoever he may be, is a big enough man to bear the slings and arrows he will undoubtedly have to endure, and that he never falls back on his sexual preference as an excuse if/when things don’t go his way. “You’re just picking on me because…” is an ugly cop-out.

  14. txnative61 - Dec 31, 2012 at 5:22 AM

    In the Navy late 60’s early 70’s I worked in an office with two men who were only “in the closet” for those who refused to see what they were looking at. They were friendly, and thoroughly pleasant hard working skilled sailors who, barring some occasional biting sarcasm, everyone got along. Torii, if you look at them first as people, you won’t be nearly so uncomfortable.

    • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 7:07 AM

      It’s a big world; there’s room for everyone.

  15. louhudson23 - Dec 31, 2012 at 7:30 AM

    It would be very enlightening if ,for once,those who wish to cite biblical references for their outlook on homosexuality would provide an explanation of some sort for why they choose this snippet and ignore those that are clearly just as ridiculous and ignorant etc. The bibles outlook on pork products,disrespectful wives,various types of fabric,working on Sundays,divorce,disrespectful children and on and on are never cited or explained and certainly not observed or obeyed by these same “christians” ….For some reason,they simply ignore these other admonitions and “sins”as well as refuse to explain their actions in doing so. So,please,explain and stop ignoring that which makes your opinion seem as baseless and ignorant as the rest….

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:07 AM

      “Hypocrisy and distortion are passing currents under the name of religion.”
      -Mahatma Gandhi

      “The true hypocrite is the one who ceases to perceive his deception, the one who lies with sincerity.”
      -Andre Gide

      “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo.”
      -Ambrose Bierce

  16. mute617 - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:08 AM

    He wasn’t bashing or anything. He said he’d be uncomfortable. If you wanna be gay that’s your thing, but others don’t have to be comfortable with it. Funny how people pick & choose what they accept & condemn others for not accepting the same thugs

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM

      Replace the word “gay” with the word “black” and get back to me.

    • easttoak - Jan 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

      He specifically said “it’s not right”. That sounds like another way of bashing. It is not a severe form of bashing, imo, but it is bashing.

      Do you really believe people “wanna be gay”? That says alot about where you are coming from.

      You are right – others don’t have to be comfortable with it. But, that doesn’t mean those people who are uncomfortable are suddenly immune from any criticism from their publicly stated words – especially when they are essentially telling other co-workers they aren’t welcomed.

  17. mute617 - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:09 AM

    Things not thugs

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:09 AM

      A classic Freudian slip. You were right the first time.

  18. mbroermann - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:10 AM

    I applauded Tori Hunter for being honest! This is what is wrong with our country today! We have gotten away from the beliefs that our country was founded on! God, morales, and the bible! Our society is in the position it is in for two reasons: our inept leaders who won’t stand for what the country was founded on, and us as citizens for allowing things to go on and being accepting of everyone and everything!!!!!

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:14 AM

      “Honest” hypocrisy, ignorance, and bigotry. The country wasn’t founded on god, he’s never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. If this country is in trouble, it’s due to the kind of idiocy you just posted. And who is this “morales” of whom you speak? Another ballplayer?

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:33 AM

      This is what is wrong with our country today! We have gotten away from the beliefs that our country was founded on!

      Oh thank god, let’s get back to the days when black people were counted as 3/5ths of a person, that slavery was condoned, that women were second class citizens, and only landowners could vote. Yes, let’s get back to that type of country!

    • 18thstreet - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:46 AM

      I like the idea that Franklin Morales built this country.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM

        Franklin Morales, AA pitcher for the Boston Patriots. Blew out his elbow in 76, against Bunker Hill.

  19. ditto65 - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:16 AM

    I would think having an “out” homosexual would be more comfortable for a homophobe than having a “closeted” homosexual. That way he would know which teamate to hate and avoid rather than having to guess.

  20. mute617 - Dec 31, 2012 at 8:19 AM

    You shouldn’t call someone dumb ignorant or anything like that if gay people make them uncomfortable. Makes you sound like the words you’re spewing at them. Everyone is entitled to their opinions & beliefs. As long as he’s not bashing gays or harming gays, he’s done nothing wrong

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:16 AM

      So you’d be okay with another player coming out and saying he’s uncomfortable with a black player in the locker room?

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 11:06 AM

        To be fair, the main difference between a gay team mate, and a heterosexual black team mate, is that the heterosexual black player isn’t mentally evaluating his other team mates as a potential sex partners.

      • protius - Dec 31, 2012 at 11:10 AM

        Sorry, that was not very well edited.

        It should read: To be fair, the main difference between a gay player, and a heterosexual black player, is that the heterosexual black player isn’t mentally evaluating his other team mates as potential sex partners.

      • easttoak - Jan 1, 2013 at 6:17 PM

        protius – so, would you say straight men should not be allowed to work as a lifeguard in a public swim pool or a beach or anywhere else with women because he would be evaluating them as a sex partner? Because no man could possible focus on the task at hand.

        Sounds positvley Victorian! Or Sharia….

      • protius - Jan 2, 2013 at 5:33 AM

        easttoak:

        You wrote: “so, would you say straight men should not be allowed to work as a lifeguard in a public swim pool or a beach or anywhere else with women because he would be evaluating them as a sex partner?” You don’t seem to grasp the point of my argument. It’s not about men evaluating women as potential sex partners; it’s about men evaluating men. If you have anything pertinent to say about this subject, then go right ahead.

        BTW: I did not mention anything about men focusing on the task at hand.

  21. temporarilyexiled - Dec 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    I’m no believer, but I do feel that people should get together and openly discuss how to live, which is what’s done in places of worship. When it’s done well, it can go beyond philosophy, where people fall short of discussing how to live by settling on discussing how to think.

    That said, every religion has massive writings, and as such, they cover so much territory, that you can simply pick and choose what suits you, or, in the extreme case, be fundamentalist, which in my opinion, is a horrible thing.

    The whole point is that it’s okay to pick and choose from your various book(s). But what you pick and choose defines who you are, and if this world is to be a better place, I can only hope people make choices that head all of us in a positive direction.

    Torii Hunter is a great ballplayer, but he clearly has a track record of making very poor choices.

    And that defines who he is as a person.

  22. simplicitymadecomplex - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    I think it is important that we all all realize the most obvious fact when dealing with the “bible” [the King James version or otherwise].

    It was, is and always will be a work of fiction. You know fiction as in storey-telling.

    We would all be much better off if we all viewed the bible much like we view “The Wizard of Oz” or “The Cat In The Hat”.

  23. thekatman - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Religious issues have no bearing on this conversation folks. You have a religious belief and that is yours and yours alone. It is not right to assert your religious views on someone else, otherwise, move to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, et all, where you can live under the thumb of a society that is forced to believe and practice the state run religion.

    Now fo rthe matter at hand.
    Torii Hunter is not expressing anything that is not discussed in the locker room. Where there are naked men in the locker room, the showers, the sinks, bathrooms, etc…. if there’s an openly gay man in there, that fact would make a lot of guys uneasy in that surrounding. Prolly makes other gays men uncomfortable. Remember, these guys are not the steroetype West Hollywood gay man who frequents gay bath houses looking for some strange. these guys are good men in their own right, but hey…. how comfortable are you walking around the locker room, naked, when there are female reporters in the locker room. I find that inappropriate and have always been against having women sports reporters in our inner sanctum, even since Ms George started it back in the 80’s.

    If you all are in favor of having openly gay men in the lockler room, then you should be in favor of male reporters in the women’s lockler room, and those women are not allowed to cover up.

    Sure there are gays in all facets of life, but it is not necessary to brag about your sexuality. That’s just irritating, sophomoric, and unnecessary. We don’t care if you’r gay or not, I don’t want it thrust in my face, so to speak.

  24. earlnash - Dec 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    The white players said the same thing about black players before Jackie Robinson arrived; they were “uncomfortable” with the black players and thought they would be divisive.

    The Romans were “uncomfortable” with the Christians…

    Anyone who has read the whole Bible knows that the anti-gay statements were in the Old Testament; your Personal Savior, Jesus the Christ, never mentioned homosexuality, but was know to be accepting of all people; when he said “Love one another,” he did not make any exceptions. Perhaps the same God that created you, created the entire universe and all the things and sentient beings?

    Wake up, Torii

  25. joewilliesshnoz - Dec 31, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    Nitwit.

Leave Comment

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!

Featured video

Patience finally paying off for Royals fans
Top 10 MLB Player Searches
  1. R. Castillo (3072)
  2. G. Stanton (2246)
  3. N. Arenado (2114)
  4. A. Rizzo (2097)
  5. J. Hamilton (2088)
  1. C. Kershaw (2036)
  2. M. Trout (1981)
  3. D. Ortiz (1906)
  4. A. Pujols (1779)
  5. H. Ryu (1735)