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	<title>Comments on: Dodgers &#8220;50-50&#8243; between Fox Sports and Time Warner for new television deal</title>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Cosanostra. You are wrong.

The free agent market was driven by the people signed those players. Therefore, Boston felt that both Becket and Crawford would be worth their $17 million this year, and Florida felt that Ramirez would be worth his $15 million. The Dodgers, on the other hand, felt that Ramirez + contract was worth Nate Eovaldi and Gonzalez, Crawford, Beckett + contracts were worth 4 minor leaguers and James Loney but only if Nick Punto was part of the deal.

That&#039;s not the same thing. If those players are paid too much, you t hank Florida and Boston. They drove the marketplace for those guys. The Dodgers are there to sop it up.  That&#039;s quite evident, and I&#039;m stunned when core HBTers can&#039;t differentiate between the two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Cosanostra. You are wrong.</p>
<p>The free agent market was driven by the people signed those players. Therefore, Boston felt that both Becket and Crawford would be worth their $17 million this year, and Florida felt that Ramirez would be worth his $15 million. The Dodgers, on the other hand, felt that Ramirez + contract was worth Nate Eovaldi and Gonzalez, Crawford, Beckett + contracts were worth 4 minor leaguers and James Loney but only if Nick Punto was part of the deal.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the same thing. If those players are paid too much, you t hank Florida and Boston. They drove the marketplace for those guys. The Dodgers are there to sop it up.  That&#8217;s quite evident, and I&#8217;m stunned when core HBTers can&#8217;t differentiate between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paper: I agree the names on the back of the jersey don&#039;t automatically equate success. Ramirez is going to be a test, and Crawford is a bit of a gamble. Gonzalez, however, will be just as good if not better than his time in Boston simply by playing in a stadium and location that he is much more familiar with, in a division in which he thrived, and surrounded by a lineup that is much more formidable than his Padres days. And, yes, I think that is worth 2 top minor league pitchers + 2 minor league position players + 1 James Loney. 

I don&#039;t think you&#039;re crazy thinking it won&#039;t necessarily work out, but I would rather take the wait and see approach than dumping on them all off-season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paper: I agree the names on the back of the jersey don&#8217;t automatically equate success. Ramirez is going to be a test, and Crawford is a bit of a gamble. Gonzalez, however, will be just as good if not better than his time in Boston simply by playing in a stadium and location that he is much more familiar with, in a division in which he thrived, and surrounded by a lineup that is much more formidable than his Padres days. And, yes, I think that is worth 2 top minor league pitchers + 2 minor league position players + 1 James Loney. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re crazy thinking it won&#8217;t necessarily work out, but I would rather take the wait and see approach than dumping on them all off-season.</p>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stupid, Kevin? I admit that I would have liked to watch to Eovaldi, Webser, and de la Rosa develop as Dodgers, but what they got in return-- Ramirez, Gonzalez, Crawford, and even Beckett-- makes the Dodgers more competitive over the next 3 years than sub-five year major league pitching.

That could just be me, of course. You&#039;re the one with the untainted vision, right?.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid, Kevin? I admit that I would have liked to watch to Eovaldi, Webser, and de la Rosa develop as Dodgers, but what they got in return&#8211; Ramirez, Gonzalez, Crawford, and even Beckett&#8211; makes the Dodgers more competitive over the next 3 years than sub-five year major league pitching.</p>
<p>That could just be me, of course. You&#8217;re the one with the untainted vision, right?.</p>
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		<title>By: fiddytucker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddytucker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 13:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doyers preent mony senior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doyers preent mony senior.</p>
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		<title>By: cavemanna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cavemanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 04:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I know is that from here on out the Dodgers have money to build a squad. How n the world is HanRam an over the hill has been ? Last I heard AGon was a pretty decent hitter. We took on the Beckett and Craford contracts cuz we wipe our azzez with dough now. Go Blue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is that from here on out the Dodgers have money to build a squad. How n the world is HanRam an over the hill has been ? Last I heard AGon was a pretty decent hitter. We took on the Beckett and Craford contracts cuz we wipe our azzez with dough now. Go Blue</p>
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		<title>By: fanofevilempire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fanofevilempire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no problem with how the Dodgers spend their money, at least they put their money into their team and they often win. I hate owners who get the revenue share money and write themselves huge bonus checks, then they cry poor for the fans.
I&#039;m a Yankee fan, so you know I like huge salaries and I like to beat up on .500 teams too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with how the Dodgers spend their money, at least they put their money into their team and they often win. I hate owners who get the revenue share money and write themselves huge bonus checks, then they cry poor for the fans.<br />
I&#8217;m a Yankee fan, so you know I like huge salaries and I like to beat up on .500 teams too.</p>
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		<title>By: lostsok</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lostsok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe LA should just team up with BALCO like the Giants. That seems to work...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe LA should just team up with BALCO like the Giants. That seems to work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What the Dodgers have is a lot of expensive players, many of which have not played up to their reputation for a while, or have never been as productive as their reputation suggests.  They have a LOT of &quot;names&quot;, most of which can expected to be solid regulars and not much more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Dodgers have is a lot of expensive players, many of which have not played up to their reputation for a while, or have never been as productive as their reputation suggests.  They have a LOT of &#8220;names&#8221;, most of which can expected to be solid regulars and not much more.</p>
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		<title>By: D.J. Short</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D.J. Short]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[+1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 20:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ethier signed his extension a month after Guggenheim bought the team, and for a player of Ethier&#039;s body type and skill set, early decline is something I&#039;d look for.

And you&#039;re right, picking up contracts isn&#039;t the same as handing them out.  The Dodgers were dumb enough to surrender prospects with actual value, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethier signed his extension a month after Guggenheim bought the team, and for a player of Ethier&#8217;s body type and skill set, early decline is something I&#8217;d look for.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right, picking up contracts isn&#8217;t the same as handing them out.  The Dodgers were dumb enough to surrender prospects with actual value, too.</p>
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		<title>By: whitlockd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whitlockd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first Huff signing was a steal.  The second signing was the make-up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first Huff signing was a steal.  The second signing was the make-up.</p>
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		<title>By: phipfwe76</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phipfwe76]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as Vin Scully goes with, it doesn&#039;t matter to me where they show their games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as Vin Scully goes with, it doesn&#8217;t matter to me where they show their games.</p>
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		<title>By: cosanostra71</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cosanostra71]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether or not they signed Crawford, Beckett, etc, themselves, they still acquired the contracts, which has the same effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not they signed Crawford, Beckett, etc, themselves, they still acquired the contracts, which has the same effect.</p>
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		<title>By: bubbalynch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bubbalynch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look who is talking, a die hard sf fan (since 2010) whose team signs the likes of Rowand, Huff, Zito just to name a few! SF fans have never been accused to be the sharpest tools in the shed. THINK BLUE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look who is talking, a die hard sf fan (since 2010) whose team signs the likes of Rowand, Huff, Zito just to name a few! SF fans have never been accused to be the sharpest tools in the shed. THINK BLUE</p>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the hill at 31? Ethier was signed by McCourt. Picking up contracts does not equate signing players to those contracts.

Do 3 strikes still make an out in your world?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the hill at 31? Ethier was signed by McCourt. Picking up contracts does not equate signing players to those contracts.</p>
<p>Do 3 strikes still make an out in your world?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brandon League
Andre Ethier (locking into his years of likely being an over-the-hill hasbeen, anyway)

Acquiring the outlandish deals of over-the-hill hasbeens Hanley Ramirez, Carl Crawford, Adrian Gonzalez and Josh Beckett.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon League<br />
Andre Ethier (locking into his years of likely being an over-the-hill hasbeen, anyway)</p>
<p>Acquiring the outlandish deals of over-the-hill hasbeens Hanley Ramirez, Carl Crawford, Adrian Gonzalez and Josh Beckett.</p>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you name the over the hill hasbeen whom the new Dodgers ownership signed to an outlandish contract?

Apparently, one needs at least 3 World Championships before the fandom begins to make any sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you name the over the hill hasbeen whom the new Dodgers ownership signed to an outlandish contract?</p>
<p>Apparently, one needs at least 3 World Championships before the fandom begins to make any sense.</p>
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		<title>By: dirtydrew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dirtydrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now they will just be paying more for lousy play by over the hill has been&#039;s. Go GIANTS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now they will just be paying more for lousy play by over the hill has been&#8217;s. Go GIANTS!</p>
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