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Marlins have contacted Padres about Giancarlo Stanton

Jan 5, 2013, 8:48 PM EDT

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Via Bill Center of the San Diego Union-Tribune:

It’s far too early to talk about the possibilities, but the Padres are one of the clubs the Miami Marlins have talked to regarding right-handed, power-hitting right fielder Giancarlo Stanton.

Center suspects that the Fish would want infield prospect Jedd Gyorko and at least two other young players in return. Gyorko, 24, batted .311/.373/.547 with 30 home runs, 28 doubles and 100 RBI across 557 plate appearances last season between Double-A San Antonio and Triple-A Tucson. He was a second-round pick of the Padres in the 2010 MLB Amateur Draft.

Stanton isn’t necessarily being shopped, but the Marlins are fielding all offers and apparently reaching out to certain clubs with strong farm systems. The 23-year-old hit .290/.361/.608 with 37 home runs, 30 doubles and 86 RBI in 501 plate appearances last year. He is under contractual control through the 2016 season.

  1. shawnuel - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    At LEAST two other young players. Can”t imagine Stanton could be had for that little. Padres have a super deep farm system but not the impact players that other systems have.

    • tuberippin - Jan 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM

      Although….let’s be honest, trading Stanton to a park that would put a dent in even his monstrous power, for an underwhelming return compared to what he could have fetched in being traded to a different organization, would be a quintessentially Lorian move by the Marlins.

  2. robco92 - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Please, Please Padres pull off this trade, Gyorko, Hedges/Liriano and Kelly/Cashner for Stanton.
    I could just imagine Stanton batting behind Headley and in front of Quentin, three guys with 30 plus
    homer power, if they do this I would definitely buy season tickets, it would make them able to compete
    with the dodgers and giants.

    • oilrod - Jan 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM

      Do the other two also strike out 160 times a year? Hmm Has any of the other two drove in over a hundred RBI’s? Has any of the other two scored over a hundred runs? Stanton has not either but he does look good swing at the wind. 160 Strike outs. Some of the other teams will love facing SD.

      • Old Gator - Jan 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

        That superficial, imbecilic observation about the Iron Giant seems to be all the analytic acumen you’re capable of mustering. You noted the lineup that surrounded him, the age – barely 23 – or the elite company he’s in with his stats at his current age? How about the .290 BA, or the .969 OPS? No? All of this was pointed out to you on a previous thread, but you appear either too dense or too stupid – or, more likely, both – to absorb it.

      • tuberippin - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:54 AM

        Fact: Giancarlo Stanton has driven in 232 runs in 373 games.

        Fact: Giancarlo Stanton has scored 199 runs in 373 games.

        Fiction: Giancarlo Stanton struck out 160 times last year.

        FALSE, Stanton struck out 143 times in 501 PAs, hit .290, led the league in SLG% and hit 37 HRs.

        Most other teams already love facing San Diego because their lineup sucks. Adding Stanton to that lineup would change things drastically in a positive manner. This isn’t Mark Reynolds we’re talking about here.

      • braddavery - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:05 PM

        Headley had 115 RBI last season. So… WTH are you talking about.

  3. ningenito78 - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Dear Yankees,

    Call the Marlins and tell them they can have anyone and everyone that is in their system. Give them all the ‘Killer B’s’ that we’ll never see or that you will ruin test driving them in the pen and whoever else they want not named Cano. We need a young stud to hang our hat on. Yes, we have been spoiled for the better part of 2 decades but any rational baseball fan sees the apocalypse coming. Just give us a young stud hitter to root for. Give them Banuelos (post op), Betances and Sanchez. Sure they are stud prospects. But the Yankees handle stud prospects like Lenny handles mice. Just do it.

    Sincerely,

    A Yankee fan that’s not delusional

    • paperlions - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:31 PM

      Banuelos and Betances don’t have any value right now. Sanchez, Austin, and Williams might get the conversation started….but none of those guys bring the “wow” factor.

    • lostsok - Jan 5, 2013 at 10:00 PM

      If the Yankees called, the price would probably have to include Sanchez and either Austin or Williams, plus 2-3 mid-level none blue chippers.

    • dondada10 - Jan 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM

      I hate Steinbeck.

      • Old Gator - Jan 5, 2013 at 11:38 PM

        I love Steinbeck, and aside from being a great storyteller and serving as the national conscience of his generation, there was no greater chronicler of the depression in rural America. Did you know that he roomed with Joseph Campbell when he was living in Big Sur before he wrote Cannery Row? Tell me you wouldn’t like to have been a fly on their wall for some of their post-fourth and fifth beer late night conversations.

      • Gamera the Brave - Jan 5, 2013 at 11:54 PM

        Campbell roomed with Steinbeck?!? Holy crap, you aren’t kidding – Steinbeck waxing about some dude with a apple stand in 1926, and Campbell neatly tying it back to Sisyphus or Prometheus or some crazy thing.
        I love to listen to conversations between really, really smart people – I should probably be envious of their giant brains, but I have too much fun trying to follow them to worry about that.

      • Old Gator - Jan 6, 2013 at 2:07 AM

        Oh yeah, it’s a natural born fack. They shared a bungalow in Big Sur with biologist Ed Ricketts (“Doc” in Cannery Row). Steinbeck’s habit of pacing and bemoaning out loud his bouts with writer’s block drove Campbell crazy. He told some funny stories about his time with Steinbeck – and about the same time, by the way, he had a little fling with Adele Davis, the pioneering nutritionist. He also courted his Hawaiin student Jean Erdman at Sarah Lawrence by giving her a copy of Finnegan’s Wake when she graduated because he knew she’d have to stay in touch with him in order to have any hope of understanding it. So they ended up married for, like, forty years. Most of us would have said it with flowers.

    • tuberippin - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:57 AM

      I guess Deadspin’s chronicling of the dumbest trade proposals for Giancarlo Stanton organized by team (and many of the comments came from HBT comment sections) was a day early.

      Still, I guess this isn’t as terrible as the one Yankee fan who proposed sending “Ivan Nova and a couple other guys” for Stanton.

      • paperlions - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:16 PM

        For those interested: http://deadspin.com/5973026/internet-commenters-should-probably-stop-trying-to-trade-for-giancarlo-stanton

        You get some fantastic remarks such as, “The problem with prospects is that a bunch of potential bench players and back-of-the-rotation/bullpen pitchers, when packaged together, can’t combine Voltron-style into prospects people want.”

      • thereisaparty - Jan 6, 2013 at 8:06 PM

        This is a BPro article republished with permission on Deadspin, not original Deadspin content

  4. plapka - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Pull the trigger! Bring some excitement to a city that needs one of it Pro sports teams to win!

  5. icanspeel - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Doubt they make a deal, but the Padres do have quite a few young prospects. On 1 hand I want the Padres to keep them but on the other it’s Giancarlo Stanton. Not many opportunities to get a player of his caliber without paying a fortune financially.

    • Old Gator - Jan 5, 2013 at 11:44 PM

      On top of which, the Iron Giant would be delighted to be playing in California, even if it is a bit far south of his native stomping grounds. I suspect he’d be much happier playing for San Diego that for the coven of crooks and liars he’s playing for now. But then, he’d probably be happier Mandingo-fighting for Leonardo DiCaprio than he is playing for Scrooge McLoria and the Chihuahua.

  6. chill1184 - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    So anyone want to speculate on which outfielder gets dealt first? Stanton or Upton?

    • lostsok - Jan 5, 2013 at 10:03 PM

      Upton.

      Miami is probably, more than anything else, building the market for Giancarlo for mid-season or next off-season.

  7. lanzurrah - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    I would love to see the Pads pick up Stanton…Headley, Quentin, Stanton, Alonso and Grandal when he comes back from his suspension, plus the moved in fences at Petco might make for a pretty decent offense.

  8. sdb74 - Jan 5, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    The Marlins should be contracted. They are a complete joke!

    • Ben - Jan 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM

      At the least force Loria to sell his ownership stake. Worst comes to worst, I hear Montreal needs a ball team.

    • Old Gator - Jan 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM

      No teams are going to be contracted. None. It would lead to the equivalent of World War Three with the Player’s Association. Forget it.

      We need to get a collection together to hire Anton Chigurh to take care of Loria. Got that, Friendo?

      • paperlions - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:18 PM

        Owners wouldn’t want to contract a team either, they’d have to pool together the money to buy it…and they aren’t doing that.

    • menentj - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      No, just have MLB FORCE THEM TO SELL THE TEAM to someone who allows their baseball people to make sound decisions and not treat the team like if they are playing fantasy baseball.

      This ownership (I will borrow Old Gator’s names: Scrooge McLoria and the Chihuahua), is an embarassment to MLB, and this city.

      Have Bacardi-Martini buy the team PLEASE. Or anyone else. It cannot be worse than this.

      I know I will not attend a single game nor spend one penny while these ass clowns are owners.

      • Old Gator - Jan 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

        Your sentiments are, as you doubtless know, widely shared. I don’t know how Mark Cuban feels about Macondo – though, heh, the surname would really work on so many levels. But our jelly-brained commissioner really prefers guys like Scrooge McLoria. Don’t forget that Bud sent that putz to Montreal to wreck the Expos. He’s now like one of those hitmen the dons always fear will turn state’s evidence. No way Bud leans on his bagman to give up such a cash cow.

        Face it, as unpleasant a truth as it is: barring a close encounter with a specimen-collecting alien mothership, a sinkhole opening suddenly beneath is Lamborghini or a brain hemorrhoid, we’re stuck watching this Magnus Akishra play Wetbones with our franchise or the duration.

        Incidentally, those of you who have pointed out the death of Feesh fans, or even Macondo residents per se here on this blog, may see a bit of a change over the next few weeks. The online edition of the Macondo Feeshwrapper, which featured one of the two more active Feesh blogs (the other being the team’s homepage – kind of a digital Amityville Horror house this season) has just begun charging $69 a year for access. Yeah, you do have to love that number, dontcha? Anyway, it’s hard to imagine that many of the correspondents to the Feesh Bites blog are going to pay that kind of money for the privilege of doing the same pissing and moaning they can do on Metrorail on their way to work at Moe’s Southwestern Grill. They’ll need somewhere to go, where everyone can try to tell them something they already know, where their anger and resentment can grow, and they won’t all just be calling in to the spawrts tawrk show on Mohammed’s Raydeeo. I predict a goodly number of them will emigrate here to Circling the Bases like a bunch of digital Marielitos. Fun times ahead.

  9. xpensivewinos - Jan 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Padres have the prospects to get a deal done and new ownership desperately needs to do something to get the fan base excited………..or at least awake from its apathetic coma.

    Question is, will the Padres pay up when it would be time to pay Stanton the going rate or is it Adrian Gonzalez 2.0?

  10. thebadguyswon - Jan 5, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    A Yankees fan that is not delusional would realize they don’t have the prospects. Manny Baneulos. That’s rich. Does that come with a spare ulnar collateral ligament in case the new one ruptures during his rehab?

  11. stairwayto7 - Jan 5, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Stanton and Headley…wow

  12. thereisaparty - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Yes, surely the Marlins would want an older, less talented player with no MLB experience in return. How has this deal not gone thru yet?!

  13. shorttracknews - Jan 6, 2013 at 3:54 AM

    What teams (if any) have the farm system to pull off a trade for him? I’m a casual baseball fan and lots of the people who post here have tons more knowledge about each teams farm system then I do. I live in Chicago, do any of their teams have anything to pull off this trade? I always hear the Sox cupboard is pretty bare but hear the Cubs are actually starting to reload theirs.

    • paperlions - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      No, the Cubs don’t….and the White Sox really really don’t. The Rangers, Padres, Cardinals, Seattle…maybe Tampa (of course, they are the kind of team that would be trading Stanton, not trading for him) have the ammo to get it done if they really wanted to…of course, there is zero evidence that the Marlins actually want to trade him….just that a lot of fan bases (approaximately 30) would like to see him on their team.

  14. yankeepunk3000 - Jan 6, 2013 at 3:58 AM

    I’d the pads can trade for Upton and get Stanton…now you have a legitimate outfield and power in the middle of Tory line up…good move from the pads

  15. btwicey - Jan 6, 2013 at 4:02 AM

    One would think gyo erlin and Kelly would go close, I think fish would do that , not sure about padres tho .

  16. mungman69 - Jan 6, 2013 at 6:22 AM

    If, instead, he left that heckhole of a team for the greener places that we all cherish then maybe he would contribute whole. I don’t see it, just another day in the passage of time.

  17. kindasporty - Jan 6, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    Every time Stanton is brought up, I see a lot of fans in the comments trying to work out what would be the best trade to their team. What I don’t see is anything from any Marlins fans clamoring to keep him or trade him. I’m not even sure they exist. How this team still exists is beyond me.

    • Old Gator - Jan 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

      First of all, you don’t seem to appreciate how thoroughly the Scrooge McLoria crime family has finished the job of obliterating its own fan base, You need to look at the history of lies, disappointment, fire sales, salary dumping – the team is only 20 years old and has already been through four total bustups, at least two of which directly followed championships – one the very next season, and one two seasons later. You know that old National Enquirer headline – “I Cut Out her Heart and Stomped on It!” -? Well, that’s as good a description of how the team’s ownerships have treated its fans down through the years as any you’ll ever hear.

      And most of this presided over, benignly, by the wretched Bud Light. This season even the Player’s Association seems unwilling to waste its time trying to discipline Scrooge – as if it’s thrown up its synechdochal hands and said, “Aw, fuck it, anyway.”

      Among those of us who counted ourselves as Feesh fans and held on anyway until last season I think it’s fair to say even most have now given up as well. I talk to a lot of fans – real, knowledgeable fans – who declare they won’t go near Macondo Banana Massacre Field again as long as Scrooge and his flunkies own the team. That about sums up my feelings about it. If I go to any games this season they’ll be out-of-town games, most likely Toronto and Washington. Though I haven’t heard about a boycott as formal as the one called against McCourt in Los Angeles, the consensus here seems to be that there’s already a boycott in place, spontaneously and without fanfare. I think the potential for an alltime record low seasonal attendance exists in Macondo.

      Of course the difference between here and LA is that the Bums have had sixty some years in LA to build a tradition and a following – not even to mention those Brooklynites who kept loving them even after they move – and so their fans are loyal and passionate, viewing the McCourt Error as an aberration in their history. The Feesh, on the other hand, have been around for only two decades without the steadiness of the O’Malleys or a managerial tenure like Alston’s. There’s been no semblance of stable ownership. And of course the Feesh were just tenants, and not even welcome tenants, at Joeprodolsharklife Stadium. There was no iconic home stadium until this past season to deepen and enrich the tradition – and of course, even that has been an unmitigated fiasco. It takes passion and commitment to gather together in an organized way for a boycott. It takes apathy and disappointment for it to happen the way it’s happened here – not a rallying to the cause, but a tired wheeze in the weltanschauung, like the air leaking out of an old tire with a bad valve.

      As far as the Iron Giant himself, I think part of the silence is because we do love the guy, know he’s miserable here playing for these crooks, miscreants, pathological lairs and reprobates, and wish the best for him. I think want to see him playing for a winner and wish we could send him cakes with iron files in them to help him escape.

      I was out at a local tavern on Friday night listening to a terrific blues rocker, Albert Castiglia, who is a passionate baseball man. He said flat out that he was never going to to a Feesh game as long as McLoria was in charge. There was a spontaneous chorus of “me, either” from everyone standing around us. The anger and frustration is palpable here.

      • indaburg - Jan 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM

        i just want to say that I love this phrase: “a tired wheeze in the weltanschauung, like the air leaking out of an old tire with a bad valve.”

        No way I can talk you into one game (with scalped tickets) when I make my pilgrimage?

      • wlschneider09 - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        Ditto that, Gator would be my first choice among posters for sharing a beer/game with.

      • Old Gator - Jan 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM

        You ought to know by now that I can be bought.

      • kindasporty - Jan 25, 2013 at 12:33 PM

        I’m a little late replying to this, but I can see your point. I guess it would be like having your wife cheat on you multiple times until you finally leave her. It’s not like you didn’t love her, it was just obvious she didn’t love you back. That’s the best analogy I can think of at least.

  18. ohnothatguy - Jan 6, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    It dont matter, by 2016 upton & stanton will both be yankees, no one will out splurge the yanks in a few years bc the fans will be so fed up with their over 40 roster they will have no choice but to spend 300 mil just on those two to make every yankee fan happy, heck for stanton & upton id trade dam near everyone on the yanks and rebuild around them!

    • echech88 - Jan 6, 2013 at 11:31 AM

      Guys this young don’t hit free agency when you think they will. Whoever trades for Stanton will likely extend him immediately to make sure they maximize his time there.

      Votto, Kemp, Tulo, Cargo, Longoria…all examples of how teams realize you need to lock them up years before they reach free agency. Yankees will always be going after guys already in their 30s because the rest of the league has realized you need to lock up young stars early.

  19. echech88 - Jan 6, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    If Padres did this they would have to sign Stanton to an extension that buys out a couple years of his free agency to make it worthwhile because they aren’t one player away. They’ll need him to build around not finish the puzzle.

  20. benmo316 - Jan 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    The Padres have plenty of young players that the Marlins would love. If Stanton were to become a Padre I would be one excited fan, as well as all of San Diego. Stanton has three years left under control by the team, yes arbitration will hurt, but it would be worth it for the Padres, the city of San Diego, and their fans.

  21. damnyankee13 - Jan 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    my humble thoughts on all this is the fans have to force Loria out. And to do that, stop going to games and buying their merchandise. STOP supporting the team. I am not a Marlins hater. but the marlins ownership is a joke. I happened to have worked with Sansom’s son for a time and he was a lazy puppy.

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