Comments on: Shutout! The Baseball Writers Association of America fails to elect anyone to the Hall of Fame

By: mackie66

mackie66 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:26:16 +0000

I wonder ,,,what’s hiding in the closets of all the HOF writers? Are the writers squeaky clean? Some how I seriously doubt that. Just sayen. Don’t really care if Bonds nor Clements ever enter the HOF.

By: djpostl

djpostl — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:33:59 +0000

I think people (fans, most somewhat reasonable writers) thought that Bonds & Clemens probably warranted a spot, but I don’t think a whole lot thought they’d actually get in.

It’s been pretty clear that the people who had the best access to the players when all of this stuff was going on, and never wrote a peep about it, were going to take a ridiculous “holier than thou” attitude.

Frankly, anyone who was covering the sport in that era and didn’t say anything should get the same damn stigma attached to them.

They are, after all, the “caretakers of the game” and they failed MISERABLY.

By: millybo

millybo — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 02:37:59 +0000

grumpy, were there rumors about Peititte before his involvement was exposed? We heard that he was a Christian and family man and all around good guy. The fact is everyone is now under suspicion. Any list you prepare is suspect because we just don’t know who did and who did not. Point is in the absence of a positive test or admission it is ridiculous for the voters to exclude persons based on rumors and suspicion.

By: grumpyoleman

grumpyoleman — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:54:44 +0000

Verlander if he stays healthy and continues putting up the numbers. Have there been rumors about Jeter?

By: millybo

millybo — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:20:56 +0000

well? i am still waiting for the list of persons of whom we can be sure never took PEDS! Who can we say were definitely not cheaters at anytime? where are the self righteous people who hold the view that suspicion is enough to keep persons who have never tested positive for any PEDs to be excluded? show me your list of acceptable people! i am waiting!

By: millybo

millybo — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 03:21:03 +0000

i have only one question! having regard to the position taken by the Hall voters this year which many of you seem to support. Who in your opinion can we expect to be voted into the Hall after this that we can feel satisfied was not taking any kind of PED? I would really like to see this list because otherwise the Hall has of today been closed to future inductees. I challenge any of you to provide me with that list.

By: snafie

snafie — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:50:03 +0000

Wow. Nail on the head. My Dad took me to my first game in 1968, at the old, OLD Yankee Stadium. I loved the game with a passion until ’94 and the strike. That strike (coupled with Jack Mc Dowell flipping the bird to the fans right in the middle of the greedy owner / greedy player shouting matches, a sight I’ll never forget) killed it for me.

That is, until ’98 with McGwire, Sosa and that fantastic Yankee team. I was back.

A year or two later, while steroids were starting to make news, MLB admitted they deliberately juiced the ball in ’98 to heighten fan interest. The sportswriters (and fans) responded with a collective “so what”. My response – why bother any more?

Marketing the sport won out over the sport, so today it’s all entertainment for me, no more, no less.

By: royhobbs39

royhobbs39 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:29:09 +0000

Thumbs down? Didn’t realize that there were that many Hank O’Day fans….

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:20:57 +0000

If they are famous then put them in.

By: hk62

hk62 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:29:35 +0000

And you have what evidence that Dale Murphy was “undeniably clean”? Fact is – you don’t. And Biggio is questionable on the PED side? Or does he not have the stats in your eyes?

By: thereisaparty

thereisaparty — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:05:40 +0000

Using logic won’t work on Jack Morris fans, Church.

By: thereisaparty

thereisaparty — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:04:29 +0000

Yes because that is what the HOF is for: celebrating ballplayers that are not loudmouths

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:45:28 +0000

It would send the wrong message to kids.

Yes because doing drugs is bad kids, m’kay. Except all these other players who did drugs, and beat their wives, and got drunk and then got behind the wheel of a car, or were bigots/racists, or did illicit drugs like cocaine. All those are ok, but steroids, no no no, those are bad…

By: Mike Oviatt

Mike Oviatt — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:32:42 +0000

Finally something to applaud. Bonds, Clements and others should never be in the Hall of Fame. It would send the wrong message to kids. I am disappointed that Jack Morris did not get the nod. He was a great pitcher. His performance in the World Series was awesome.

By: nbjays

nbjays — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:52:39 +0000

Yes, these guys and their accomplishments ARE a big part of baseball history, and, as such, their names, numbers and accomplishments are very well documented and prominently displayed in the “Museum” portion of the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum. If guys like McGwire, Bonds, Palmeiro, Clemens and Sosa never get a bronze plaque on the wall of the Plaque Gallery, I won’t lose any sleep over it.

By: rkb555

rkb555 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:42:26 +0000

rightful place ? What does that mean ? That’s about a bias statement as their is. Babe Ruth is not the home run champ and never will be now that his record is broken.

By: bw1980

bw1980 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:46:35 +0000

Who is going to be calling Hank Aaron a cheater?

By: bw1980

bw1980 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:45:27 +0000

As Red Sox fan I’m ecstatic, that’s right, ecstatic, that Schilldo didn’t get in. He’s a hypocritical loud mouth.

By: jessethegreat

jessethegreat — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:24:15 +0000

Still don’t see how Clemens, bonds and piazza weren’t elected… But it is refreshing that the voters didn’t put other players that weren’t as accomplished or deserving over these three.

I do think that other cheaters should be removed from the hall if they aren’t going to allow these guys in.

On a plus side to this all, since bonds isn’t going to make it in and hank Aaron is going to be removed by the kids yelling cheater cheater, The Great Bambino can regains his rightful place in history as The Homerun Champ again.

By: cur68

cur68 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:49:56 +0000

Oh fuck off, you halfwit.

By: ctony1216

ctony1216 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:09:36 +0000

If all Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, etc., did was take amphetamines, I’d vote them into the HOF — if their stats were good enough.

By: ctony1216

ctony1216 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:03:34 +0000

Comparing steroids to amphetamines is like comparing a serial killer to a pickpocket. Yeah, both are lawbreakers, but one deserves a far more severe punishment than the other.

By: pooinyourface

pooinyourface — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:52:37 +0000

Yea but Aaron Sele gets a vote???? You gotta be f*ckin kidding me! This is an outrage people an OUTRAGE. These Jew snobs are ruining baseball.

By: ctony1216

ctony1216 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:44:03 +0000

Amphetamines aren’t steroids. If amphetamines were as powerful as steroids, players would use them instead of steroids. Athletes switched to steroids and HGH — despite the legal risks, the health risks and the risks of banishment — because steroids let you turn on a pitch and hit the ball farther and more consistently than any other product that’s out there, including amphetamines (which could be argued actually hurt performance!).

Steroids changed the game, and their use by a select group of pro athletes puts athletes who don’t use them at a huge competitive disadvantage. They don’t belong anywhere near the game, the guys who use them don’t belong in the Hall of Fame.

By: jm91rs

jm91rs — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:38:48 +0000

I would have to bet that all museums are money losers and require government subsidies. Getting new exhibits might temporarily increase ticket sales, but it’s never going to pay the bills. Adding bonds and company aren’t gonna stop the bleeding, it will never be a stand alone business and MLB doesn’t care

By: jimw81

jimw81 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:32:28 +0000

i wonder who was on nate silver’s ballot…

By: jimw81

jimw81 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:27:36 +0000

lol, stark still votes for dale Murphy every year since late 90′s.

By: klownboy

klownboy — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:11:34 +0000

I think the writers were off the mark here. Bonds and Clemens were two of the best players of all time at their positions. For the writers to forget the fact that they were sure-fire Hall of Famers before the allegations was rather short-sighted. Remember, neither Bonds nor Clemens failed a drug test.
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By: mrznyc

mrznyc — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:06:33 +0000

Had Barry Bonds not crushed the home run record, no one would have paid any attention to any of it.

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:50:59 +0000

Amphetamines are illegal in the U.S. — and have been for decades. If using them wasn’t cheating, why would guys go to such lengths to hide the fact that they’re taking them?

So you are for kicking Aaron, Mays, and Mantle out of the HoF as well then, right?