Comments on: Rangers unlikely to acquire Darren Oliver from Blue Jays

By: paperlions

paperlions — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:42:51 +0000

There is no way they’ll get a B prospect for him, but they might be able to get a C+/B- prospect for him, and sometimes those guys turn into solid MLB players. The Cardinals had no leverage when they traded Edmonds to SD. The Cardinals told Edmonds that he wouldn’t be starting (I think Ankiel was slated to be the starter that year), and they asked Edmonds where he wanted to go. He said he’d go to a CA team. So they traded Edmonds for Freese, who most considered a non-prospect at the time (and that was before the DUIs and ankle injuries).

So….they can get more than nothing, even in this situation. Toronto does have some leverage, because they can choose to do nothing.

By: vox vetus

vox vetus — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:59:31 +0000

i’d love them to send him to tx (my team) but i’d wait him out if i were them.

not sure if there’s a d-day for this to end?… where his contract would expire or something else would kick in to require immediate action from one side.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:36:30 +0000

No, you’re not going to get anything of value for him. The entire world knows he’s not coming back to Toronto. Which means they have no leverage. Oliver has stated he’ll play for the same rate if he goes to Texas, but Toronto must pay him more.

He’s one of the better relievers in the game, but that means absolutely nothing in this case, because the entire world knows he isn’t going to play for Toronto. So they won’t get any prospect of value in return.

And as I pointed out last time this thread popped up, if the Jays flip Oliver to Texas for pennies on the dollar, then they’ll regret it because they’re going to need to beat Texas at some point if they want to make the playoffs. And giving them Oliver is only going to make that harder to accomplish.

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:18:38 +0000

The Jays are not going to give him to Texas for somebody who is unlikely to be a decent ML player and the Rangers are unlikely to offer anyone decent for a 42 year old pitcher. Oliver’s options are limited. Play for the Jays or retire.

The Jays have no desire to help a team that they might face in the playoffs.

By: dondada10

dondada10 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:08:12 +0000

Sure, but a year of Darren Oliver on the cheap (IDK if he’d want a raise from Texas, as well) is a good trade chip. Go out and get a B prospect for him. Beats let him retire.

By: cur68

cur68 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:05:19 +0000

Might be simpler to let him retire. If you can’t him throwing out of your tent, best not have him throwing into it, see? I can’t imagine the Beav would want anyone more at this point, unless it was Michael Morse for 1B and I don’t see that as a necessity.

By: dondada10

dondada10 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:59:26 +0000

Might as well trade him, then.

By: cur68

cur68 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:51:58 +0000

Hey, the Beav did their charity work already. No need to do so for millionaire ballplayer and Darren Oliver, much as I like the guy, agreed to his contract; any more than expecting him to retire or honour his contract is gift giving and there are frankly far more worthy causes to which AA and Co. give to.