Comments on: Union head Michael Weiner decries the Hall of Fame results

By: anxovies

anxovies — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:53:06 +0000

Its an honor that should be extended to Pete Rose, who never took a game off, never loafed to 1B, never failed to failed to take the second baseman out, never gave up on a pitch, and woke up every day thanking God he was a baseball player.

By: townballblog

townballblog — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:06:19 +0000

Hey Paperlions, thanks for the answer. I did not know that was the case.

I understand where you’re coming from, being a college football fan myself. I don’t know, I just feel that people who actually played the game, or are directly involved with the game, are a better judge of talent than folks who never played it (that’s not to say some in the BBWAA didn’t play).

Again though, I understand your point…it’s a good one.

By: bigharold

bigharold — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:53:50 +0000

You had me up until Mazeroski.

By: bat42boy

bat42boy — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:56:27 +0000

If the the Hall of Fame is for the best baseball players ever, then Pete Rose should definitely be in the Hall. So go to work for his induction. He’s one the 10 best players ever to play the game with the most hits ever and he didn’t cheat. I want my grandkids and great grandkids to know about his accomplishments as a player. Tell Bud Selig to get a life and reinstate Pete in baseball and in the Hall of Fame.

By: jarathen

jarathen — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:42:05 +0000

Please define a “typical union thug”, so I know what to watch out for.

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:47:38 +0000

FYI, his hair loss pre-dates his cancer treatment.

By: kirkvanhouten

kirkvanhouten — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:41:19 +0000

That would be the crappiest Hall of Fame ever conceived.

That wouldn’t even really be a Hall of Fame, it would just be Babe Ruth Museum…and one of those already exists.

http://baberuthmuseum.org/

By: blacksables

blacksables — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:38:10 +0000

Who has forced you to be an adherent of it?

By: blacksables

blacksables — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:36:21 +0000

Bill Mazeroski.

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:03:32 +0000

Willie Mays!

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:55:56 +0000

Really? Your definition of thug is pretty expansive, then – truly Trailer Park Network in its essence.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:54:11 +0000

Yeah, that Gehrig clown has no place there at all.

By: smoochytherhino

smoochytherhino — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:49:09 +0000

That’s my point. Being in the HOF is “pretty awesome” which is why they are not receiving the honor. Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion. They are not being erased from history, just being denied something that’s pretty awesome for doing something pretty crappy.

By: snowbirdgothic

snowbirdgothic — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:44:13 +0000

Might have something to do with the cancer treatment.

By: wpjohnson

wpjohnson — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:38:41 +0000

Weiner is a typical union thug.

By: Innocent Bystander

Innocent Bystander — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:23:29 +0000

This was such a pathetic showing by the BBWAA that I am going to boycott the HoF. I’ve always been a “small hall” guy but this vote is ridiculous. They can induct or not induct whoever the hell they want…I don’t care anymore. The HoF doesn’t represent who I think of as the great players. I’m comfortable having my own HoF and disregarding theirs.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:18:47 +0000

Oddly enough, the HOF is in charge of itself as an independent non-profit organization and they alone decide the rules and who votes. The current process is what they still support.

Allowing players to judge themselves is a pretty poor approach, it’s like have a group of coaches vote on a national champion.

By: makeham98

makeham98 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:15:54 +0000

People would barely mention Rose or Joe Jackson if not for the HOF. Go ahead, make the others martyrs too.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:15:44 +0000

As a man with a full head of hair, I second your nomination.

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:15:43 +0000

close down the HOF, as soon as possible.

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:14:29 +0000

they should have only one plaque in the HOF, Babe Ruths………………

By: townballblog

townballblog — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:55:47 +0000

Sure, but we’re not talking about the history of the game so much as the legacy of a player. To have a one of your bats or gloves in the HOF is pretty awesome, sure, but being an actual Hall of Famer is something completely different and it details your entire career, not one particular play or game.

By: royhobbs39

royhobbs39 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:51:09 +0000

As a bald man myself, I nominate that comment for winning the Internet today.

By: townballblog

townballblog — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:49:22 +0000

Does anyone know who, if anyone, has the authority to change the electoral process of the HOF? To me, it would make more sense if the Player’s Union was in charge of it.

By: dcfan4life

dcfan4life — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:48:26 +0000

I think this point of view is saying that it is extremely hard to hit a baseball, or throw a pitch where you want it to go. The PEDs made the ball travel further and harder, but the person still had to hit it or throw it. And since so many took PEDs, an exact number we will never know but it could have been more than half, then the best of the best should apply and still make the HOF. Valid argument, but the sports writers dont seem to agree. I expect both Clemens and Bonds NOT to ever get in. Many other worthy non PED implicated guys will be on upcoming ballots like Greg Maddux, Ivan Rodriguez, Tom Glavine, Chipper Jones, and John Smoltz.

By: clownsfan

clownsfan — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:45:06 +0000

Not as sad as your hair bro…..

By: smoochytherhino

smoochytherhino — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:43:56 +0000

Isn’t it also true that the campus at Cooperstown has both a HOF and a museum? And aren’t the Pete Roses and Shoeless Joes acknowledged in the museum section of Cooperstown? If so, then the history of the game can be duly documented without rewarding players with a spot in the HOF.

And the idea that the HOF is required to follow the results of legal proceedings makes no sense whatsoever. One has nothing to do with the other. Being in the HOF is an honor, not a protectable right.

By: raulduke11

raulduke11 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:40:12 +0000

Still mad

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:35:46 +0000

Wow, someone needs an interview cap.

By: anotheryx

anotheryx — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:35:42 +0000

Well, seems alot of (surprisingly enough, newer generation) writers is using the rational that “since union fought testing that hard, they must be all dirty”.