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Jon Stewart on Craig Biggio: “the only thing that guy’s juicing is carrots, apples and kale”

Jan 11, 2013, 4:58 PM EDT

Jon Stewart is a baseball fan. Mets fan, actually. And he was not at all pleased with no one getting into the Hall of Fame.  And voiced his displeasure with this in his usual, Jon Stewartian way:

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  1. chill1184 - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    LMAO! I havent watched Stewart in about six years but damm was that funny

    • thekcubrats - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:34 PM

      Funny, yes. But a typical and toxic error in the legitimate discourse behind the silly. Juicing does NOT make you look juiced. Jason Grimsley anybody? If you work out like a demon and juice, you get yoked, ripped, stacked, etc. If you use it so your mediocre arm can stay in the league, if you use it to recover faster from injury or faster and stronger from non-bodybuilder workouts, it is simply not evident to the naked eye. The Grim Reaper that was Jason G is more likely the prototypical juicer — a hanger-on who kept in the bigs, but barely, juicily. In other words, the relative pencilneck of Biggio (and seriously, look closer, that man was in brilliant condition and could kick your ass) PROVES NOTHING one way or the other.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM

        I think you should print your post. Because this is the perfect ticket out of jury duty.

  2. cur68 - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Yes! Daily Show’s back on. My evening is SET!

    • APBA Guy - Jan 12, 2013 at 12:17 AM

      I don’t understand the thumbs down on this. Stewart’s show is must-see, especially via DVR. Although, if the thumbs down reflect the opinion that Colbert’s writing team is currently sharper and tighter, I can see that.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2013 at 12:53 AM

        Perhaps that was a vote on Cur’s lameness instead of a commentary on the show…or that it’s been on all week and he’s finally getting around to watching it.

      • cur68 - Jan 12, 2013 at 2:30 AM

        Yeah, yeah. I got a weeks worth to watch (YES!)

      • historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM

        I got behind watching it during the playoffs and with the holidays, it was after Christmas before I caught completely up. Luckily, they went on hiatus. Do try not to spend your Friday nights on that though.

  3. Chris K - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    I can’t wait for Craig Kilborn to come back from his break!

    • El Bravo - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:16 PM

      Ha zing!

  4. lew24 - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    If Biggio played for the Yanks and Jeter played for the Astros…we would look at both players differently!

    • lordd99 - Jan 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM

      We would view both as HOFers.

      • strosfan85 - Jan 11, 2013 at 6:49 PM

        yes but one would be first-ballot and one would be forced to wait a couple years

      • drewsylvania - Jan 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

        Guess which one the BBWAA would vote in?

      • drewsylvania - Jan 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM

        (dammit strosfan)

    • barrywhererufrom - Jan 12, 2013 at 9:03 AM

      Ok this could be my favorite post. Did you and the other 40 people who liked your post even look at their stats? Meter had 8 out of 17 seasons were he had 200 hits. Biggio had ONE in twenty seasons. Jeters career batting average is. 311 while biggio’s was. 281. Jeter played shortstop a much more demanding position than second. I will not even bring up his clutch postseason hits and Fielding. Sometimes their is a New York bias I live there so I know about it. But in this case their is no way that is the case with biggio and jeter

      • lordd99 - Jan 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM

        East Coast bias in the 21st Century, with 24-hour, non-stop sports coverage? An age here casual fans now know the back-up infielder for most team’s AA minor-league rosters? Fantasy baseball. Blogs. Sabermetrics. National and regional sports networks. Every play on every team analyzed ad nauseum. Local coverage available to everyone thanks to the Internet. Baseball apps on your mobile phones or tablets. The Twitterverse bringing news to fans within seconds of it happening. Future #1 draft picks featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and being interviewed on TV years before selected?

        It’s not 1913, folks. It’s 2013.

  5. Ducky Medwick - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Did I miss something with all the exclamation points?!!! LOUD NOISES!!!

  6. goskinsvt - Jan 11, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Kinda scraping the bottom of the HoF outrage barrel here aren’t we?

  7. butchhuskey - Jan 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Tonight on Clubhouse Confidential Jon Heyman stated that there is “no way” Mike Mussina used PEDs. Apparently Jon Heyman thinks he can tell if guys cheated just by looking at them, which is incredibly stupid. Seriously, this guy should be fired for his foolishness.

    • The Dangerous Mabry - Jan 11, 2013 at 6:49 PM

      I think we all knew Neifi Perez was juicing it up. He was a regular Canseco out there.

      • jwbiii - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

        Wasn’t Neifi just taking speeders? Manny Alexander, on the other hand, he was an absolute beast.

      • APBA Guy - Jan 12, 2013 at 12:18 AM

        Very funny.

    • kirkvanhouten - Jan 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM

      …I don’t know. 39-year-old pitcher, coming off a year where he posted a 5.00+ ERA yet comes back to win 20 games, increasing his K rate by 1.3 K/9. Seems pretty suspicious to me Jon Heyman*

  8. tampajoey - Jan 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    I thought “Kale” may have been his wife’s name. lol

  9. rgledz - Jan 11, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Dear God Craig………will you ever let this go?? Do you stay up searching the internet for stuff like this……”Ha…this guy agrees with me too! I’m gonna write a post about it……then I’m gonna rip Jack Morris a new one……..AGAIN! Ya, that’s what I’ll do!!” Brilliant work Craig, keep it up. Can’t wait for tomorrows installments of BWAA are idiots posts…..should be riveting.

    • Gonzo - Jan 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM

      You must be a hit at parties.

      • protius - Jan 11, 2013 at 8:18 PM

        What does not being an ass kisser have to do with being the life of the party?

  10. historiophiliac - Jan 11, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    …still getting used to a world without Wyatt… :(

    • APBA Guy - Jan 12, 2013 at 12:20 AM

      Look at that show’s alumni: Carrell, Colbert, Ed Helms, etc.etc. You get used to the turnover.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 12, 2013 at 12:56 AM

        But, Wyatt’s one of my favorites. There are some people on there who I wouldn’t mind losing. Losing him is painful though.

  11. barrywhererufrom - Jan 11, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Stewart is a moron..biggio didn’t make the HOF because he compiled his stats..he wasn’t an elite player and didn’t dominate at any time in his career. I have a feeling Stewart was trying to be funny but you never know with that jackass

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jan 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM

      Compiler? You mean he played many seasons of professional baseball and his numbers kept growing and growing?

      • barrywhererufrom - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:19 PM

        Yes compiler..when was biggio one of the best players at his position? Sorry if he did it under a shorter period of time then he should.be a first time hall of famer. To compare him to ty Cobb is.moronic. Cobb was one of the best players in the history of baseball. You could never say that about biggio. He certainly wasn’t one of the best.players in either league. I would say he is the don Sutton of position players. Hall worthy but not on the first try

      • kirkvanhouten - Jan 11, 2013 at 10:51 PM

        “Yes compiler..when was biggio one of the best players at his position?”

        …well, in the decade of the 1990s. Is that enough for you?

      • barrywhererufrom - Jan 12, 2013 at 7:40 AM

        Lets see he had 200 hits ONCE in his career and his lifetime batting average wad. 281..sorry he was a compiler..he hit the magic number of 3000 so he will get it in. But to say he didn’t get in because of steroids suspicion like the moron Jon Stewart is idiotic.

      • barrywhererufrom - Jan 12, 2013 at 8:00 AM

        20 year career hit .300 four times in his career. Had one 200 hundred hit season. Yeah he was a compiler. Just because he competition at secondbase was weak doesn’t make him a first time hallo of famer.

    • Gonzo - Jan 11, 2013 at 7:16 PM

      Boy, that Ty Cobb was such a compiler. It took him, what, 20 years to get 4,000+ hits? If he does it in 6 years or less, then he’s hall of fame caliber.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jan 11, 2013 at 8:31 PM

        Against a highly restricted talent pool. I always wished I could borrow Doc Delorian and pick up Ty Cobb and drop him off in the batter’s box against Bob Gibson. Perhaps if I pray real hard I can see it in the afterlife. It would be heaven for me and Gibson, but Cobb would surely see it as the other place…

    • cur68 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:19 PM

      Wow, Barry’s Dad. You seem to hold every asinine, stupid opinion there is. Do go on, genius. Give us your definition of a “stats compiler”.

      The case for Biggio is thus: The two people with bWAR around Biggio’s have names like McCovey & Banks. Biggio’s is the 36th best bWAR on the list of HoF memebers. He ranks in the top half of Hall of Fame second basemen in most categories. He was an All Star at catcher and 2nd base.

      He was a treat to watch play, not least because he was a genius at getting hit by pitches. In fact when Biggio was in his prime, he was a stud; one of the best patience/power/speed guys playing at the time. Given that he finished his career 9 HR shy of 300, if he WANTED to hang around till he made 300, THEN you might call him a stats compiler because its the one set of numbers that keeps him from equalling Willie May’s 300HR, 3000hits & 300SB record; May’s is the only guy to have that one. It also keeps him out of the nearly as rare 300HR 3000SB club. He’d have been the 7th guy ever to do that. Some stats compiler.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:30 PM

        Um, excuse me, Mr. Rich. You got all worked up and dropped your monocle. Here you go.

      • cur68 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:45 PM

        Thanks. I need a book mark for this here Wonder Woman Comic I’m studying.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jan 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM

        I was going to make a retort but there’s nothing more I can add to what Mr cur said, so thank you for saving me some time cur.

      • barrywhererufrom - Jan 12, 2013 at 7:23 AM

        Let me know when biggi was the best second baseman in baseball..some jackass said in the 90s..they seam to forget Robby alomar..give me a break

      • koufaxmitzvah - Jan 12, 2013 at 9:41 AM

        One break, Barry. Coming up….

        http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2008/02/the_epic_of_craig_biggio.html

      • kirkvanhouten - Jan 12, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        Hey Barry,

        Roberto Alomar year average during the decade of the 90s

        95 runs, 168 Hits, 32 2B, 5 3B, 14 HR, 73 RBI, .308/.382/.460, 122 OPS+, 31 SB, 4.3 WAR

        Craig Biggio years average during the 1990s

        104 Runs, 173 Hits, 36 2B, 4 3B, 14 HR, 64 RBI, .297/.386/.441, 125 OPS+, 32 2B, 5.1 WAR

        But..you know, keep sticking with your nonsense rants that have been proven wrong over and over again (IE, your screen name)

      • cur68 - Jan 12, 2013 at 1:04 PM

        Lord. Love. A. Duck. Barry’s Dad: you are a cruel, cruel man. I gotta take a side where I am NOT giddily rooting for Robbie Alomar, my favouritest 2nd baseman EVER????! Look man, I was harsh with you, so I can see why you’re straw-grasping. But, you’re an ass, so I think its ok to be harsh. The sooner you face up to being an ass, the sooner you’ll have a chance of NOT being an ass. Now you force me to not only pile on but to point out that Robbie Alomar and Craig Biggio are nearly IDENTICAL through the 90’s, with the edge (and it PAINS me to say this) going, in my opinion, to Biggio (but if I had to make the argument that Robbie was better, I sure could do that, too). Somehow, My Boy Robbie’s a HoFer and Biggio isn’t? Jeez you’re a fool.

      • cur68 - Jan 12, 2013 at 1:08 PM

        Kirk FTW. Was so outraged at not being able to trumpet “ROBBIE ALOMAR” from the rooftops, Kirk got his reply in ahead of me. And he even had the numbers, too. Man. See what outrage does for you? Makes you slow.

      • American of African Descent - Jan 12, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        I reject WAR as a stat given that (i) there’s no one set way to calculate it, and (ii) it doesn’t measure lots of intangible elements to the game (for example, having Barry Bonds in the line-up in 2001 made every player on the Giants better). But even if you like WAR as a stat, how do you compare Biggio’s WAR when Biggio played in the NL with less competition at the position, and Alomar’s WAR, where there were better second basemen in the AL than in the NL?

        In any case, looking at the stats, we’ve got Robbie Alomar with 19 points on OPS, and he probably played better defense. Given a choice, I take Alomar over Biggio every day of the week. But either of them could start for my team any day. And both should have been first ballot hall-of-famers.

    • jimeejohnson - Jan 12, 2013 at 1:05 PM

      You must be a pea-brained right wing nut. Sean Hannity is a moron. Bill O’Reilly is a pervert AND a moron. Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin: dumber than dumb could ever be dumb. Donald Trump’s mother is an orangatan. Rick Perry is an idiot. And that dick, Cheney, is the international man of misery who pulled sock puppet “Lil” gw bush-League’s strings. John Stewart is a genius.

    • anxovies - Jan 12, 2013 at 2:43 PM

      Watch the show a few times. Maybe you can figure out if Stewart is trying to be funny.

  12. surly1n1nd1anapol1s - Jan 11, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    This sh!t is so tired.

  13. themagicfanguy - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    @barry You’re clueless. Compiled his stats? How stupid can you be? Every single player in the HoF “compiled” stats. You think Cobb got four thousand hits by his third year in the league? Idiot.

  14. tampajoey - Jan 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    @berry… i agree that I think you’re off your rocker with the “Compiled stats” comment. But, you’re spot-on the Jon Stewart being a “jackass”.

    • jimeejohnson - Jan 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM

      Another right wing NUT spews his pea-brained opinion. You guys must have loved losing two presidential elections in a row to an African-American! Jon Stewart exposes the Conservative for what s/he is: a lame, dumb-ass hypocrite and a useful idiot pawn for the rich. Don’t worry right wing NUTS: Depends and Kleenex Corps. have upped production to meet your LOSER needs!

  15. moogro - Jan 12, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Everyone knows it is a scientific fact that 14 years is the maximum that a career can last. 15 years and more and you are a compiler.

  16. barrywhererufrom - Jan 12, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Its amazing that some of you fools actually think biggio was an elite player and he was.better than alomar. He couldn’t hold his jock. Some posts had biggio being better than jeter. That is so moronic. This logic makes me understand why obama is our president. Some people are Morons. When you state that in a twenty year career that biggio only had one 200 hit season. His career batting average was only. 281. You call him elite. You are the same people who think obama is a great president because he got re elected. I know that 8% unemployment rate was.one Stat that you ignored when you voted. At least the bbwa voters got the vote right on biggio

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