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	<title>Comments on: Andre Dawson: &#8216;I didn&#8217;t play against more than a few Hall of Famers&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: d070033</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its amazing how we can forgive somethings and not others.  Mantle was great, but he was a social degenerate drunk and sometimes played that way.  Its an example, but most of these players are flawed and the baseball hall of fame seems to now be everything folks that are in it claim it not to be.  Its not the hall of fame, its the hall of pretty good governed by a bunch of self serving writers, half of which never even played the game.

As for Dawson, stop it, the guy is not a hall of famer and neither is Jim Rice or Mazeroski.  Nice ball players that may belong in their individual teams &#039;circle of honor&#039; but best to every play....not even in the conversation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing how we can forgive somethings and not others.  Mantle was great, but he was a social degenerate drunk and sometimes played that way.  Its an example, but most of these players are flawed and the baseball hall of fame seems to now be everything folks that are in it claim it not to be.  Its not the hall of fame, its the hall of pretty good governed by a bunch of self serving writers, half of which never even played the game.</p>
<p>As for Dawson, stop it, the guy is not a hall of famer and neither is Jim Rice or Mazeroski.  Nice ball players that may belong in their individual teams &#8216;circle of honor&#8217; but best to every play&#8230;.not even in the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: joegolfer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author mentions that Dawson&#039;s 1987 year was because it was a &quot;rabbit ball&quot; year, and that he wouldn&#039;t have made the HOF if not for that &quot;rabbit ball&quot; being the only cause for his good season.
Author states that that is the only reason why Dawson hit 49 HR&#039;s that year.
But if one checks the records for that year, there were only four men in all of MLB, both the American and National Leagues combined, who had more than 40 homeruns that season, and one of them was Mark McGuire (and we already know his true reason, and it wasn&#039;t a &quot;rabbit ball&quot;).
One can hardly call 1987 a &quot;rabbit ball&quot; year, despite the author&#039;s assertions.
Author also says playing at Wrigley Field aided Dawson, yet actual weather stats tell us that the wind actually blows in more frequently than it blows out at Wrigley.  If the author watched more baseball than the nightly highlight reel he might already know that fact.
If Wrigley were so homer-friendly, as the author attests, then we would see far more HR&#039;s flying out than we do.
We don&#039;t see a lot of guys blasting HR&#039;s out regularly like in Texas, unless we count the aberration known as Sammy Sosa and his &quot;Flintstone vitamins&quot;.  

Dawson also got all of those RBI&#039;s while playing for a last place team that year.
Cubs were 76-85, coming in sixth out of six teams in the N.L. East.
The author states that Dawson&#039;s MVP award was undeserved, because it was during that so called &quot;rabbit ball&quot; season.
Now let&#039;s deal with reality: Dawson hit 49 homers in a year in which only three other guys hit over 40, and one of them was McGuire.  Dawson had 137 rbi&#039;s for a lousy team that came in last place.   
Doesn&#039;t sound like any &quot;rabbit ball&quot; year to me.  And Dawson carried the team that year, which is why he won an MVP for a crappy last place team, a very difficult task indeed.
The author snarks that Dawson had been a top notch center fielder, but was now moved to right, but he fails to note that Dawson played many years on Montreal&#039;s artifical turf, which was essentially like a concrete patio with a cheap rug on it, which destroyed Dawson&#039;s knees to the point that he had trouble running late in his career.
Many ballplayers change position later in their careers.  Ernie Banks moved from shortstop to 1B, and he&#039;s just one example amongst many.  In the A.L., many simply become DH&#039;s, such as Frank Thomas, who should enter the HOF soon.  So we can&#039;t really blame Dawson for changing positions, especially when he played a demanding one still.  Right Field is typically where you put a very strong armed fielder, and as any Chicagoan would know, right field at Wrigley is known for being particularly difficult to play because of the sun. 
It&#039;s too bad Matthew Pouliout doesn&#039;t know more about baseball and less about snarky comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author mentions that Dawson&#8217;s 1987 year was because it was a &#8220;rabbit ball&#8221; year, and that he wouldn&#8217;t have made the HOF if not for that &#8220;rabbit ball&#8221; being the only cause for his good season.<br />
Author states that that is the only reason why Dawson hit 49 HR&#8217;s that year.<br />
But if one checks the records for that year, there were only four men in all of MLB, both the American and National Leagues combined, who had more than 40 homeruns that season, and one of them was Mark McGuire (and we already know his true reason, and it wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;rabbit ball&#8221;).<br />
One can hardly call 1987 a &#8220;rabbit ball&#8221; year, despite the author&#8217;s assertions.<br />
Author also says playing at Wrigley Field aided Dawson, yet actual weather stats tell us that the wind actually blows in more frequently than it blows out at Wrigley.  If the author watched more baseball than the nightly highlight reel he might already know that fact.<br />
If Wrigley were so homer-friendly, as the author attests, then we would see far more HR&#8217;s flying out than we do.<br />
We don&#8217;t see a lot of guys blasting HR&#8217;s out regularly like in Texas, unless we count the aberration known as Sammy Sosa and his &#8220;Flintstone vitamins&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Dawson also got all of those RBI&#8217;s while playing for a last place team that year.<br />
Cubs were 76-85, coming in sixth out of six teams in the N.L. East.<br />
The author states that Dawson&#8217;s MVP award was undeserved, because it was during that so called &#8220;rabbit ball&#8221; season.<br />
Now let&#8217;s deal with reality: Dawson hit 49 homers in a year in which only three other guys hit over 40, and one of them was McGuire.  Dawson had 137 rbi&#8217;s for a lousy team that came in last place.<br />
Doesn&#8217;t sound like any &#8220;rabbit ball&#8221; year to me.  And Dawson carried the team that year, which is why he won an MVP for a crappy last place team, a very difficult task indeed.<br />
The author snarks that Dawson had been a top notch center fielder, but was now moved to right, but he fails to note that Dawson played many years on Montreal&#8217;s artifical turf, which was essentially like a concrete patio with a cheap rug on it, which destroyed Dawson&#8217;s knees to the point that he had trouble running late in his career.<br />
Many ballplayers change position later in their careers.  Ernie Banks moved from shortstop to 1B, and he&#8217;s just one example amongst many.  In the A.L., many simply become DH&#8217;s, such as Frank Thomas, who should enter the HOF soon.  So we can&#8217;t really blame Dawson for changing positions, especially when he played a demanding one still.  Right Field is typically where you put a very strong armed fielder, and as any Chicagoan would know, right field at Wrigley is known for being particularly difficult to play because of the sun.<br />
It&#8217;s too bad Matthew Pouliout doesn&#8217;t know more about baseball and less about snarky comments.</p>
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		<title>By: joegolfer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stats can often be what a lamp post is to a drunk: used more for support than illumination.
In other words, one can take certain stats and make them fit a certain scenario.
Dawson was borderline, but stats don&#039;t tell of the intangibles, as the post by dabirdguy notes.
Yes, stats are important, but they don&#039;t tell everything, and they can be used selectively to argue for or against anything.
And as for the article noting that Dawson was aided by Wrigley Field, the author should check the stats on that, as in reality the park works against the hitter more than for him, depending on the month of the year.  Yes, there are a couple of months when the wind is blowing out, but there are actually more months when the wind is blowing inwards, so that old Wrigley saw just doesn&#039;t hold weight.
It merely gets a lot of press during the couple of months when the wind is blowing out, leading many ill informed, including actual sportswriters, to believe that it is always that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stats can often be what a lamp post is to a drunk: used more for support than illumination.<br />
In other words, one can take certain stats and make them fit a certain scenario.<br />
Dawson was borderline, but stats don&#8217;t tell of the intangibles, as the post by dabirdguy notes.<br />
Yes, stats are important, but they don&#8217;t tell everything, and they can be used selectively to argue for or against anything.<br />
And as for the article noting that Dawson was aided by Wrigley Field, the author should check the stats on that, as in reality the park works against the hitter more than for him, depending on the month of the year.  Yes, there are a couple of months when the wind is blowing out, but there are actually more months when the wind is blowing inwards, so that old Wrigley saw just doesn&#8217;t hold weight.<br />
It merely gets a lot of press during the couple of months when the wind is blowing out, leading many ill informed, including actual sportswriters, to believe that it is always that way.</p>
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		<title>By: dontfeedgigantor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@louhudson23

Lately we&#039;ve been testing for amphetamine usage.]]></description>
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<p>Lately we&#8217;ve been testing for amphetamine usage.</p>
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		<title>By: jollyjoker2</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, mark mcquire would have hit 64 home runs if he wasn&#039;t juiced. HA HAH HHAHHHSHAHHAHAH HHAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHH H]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, mark mcquire would have hit 64 home runs if he wasn&#8217;t juiced. HA HAH HHAHHHSHAHHAHAH HHAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHH H</p>
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		<title>By: djpostl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know. I think that even before PEDs his numbers were borderline at best. The magical 500 HRs, 3000 hits, 300 wins standards (as questionable as they may be) was in place during his era.

There is a reason why he didn&#039;t even get to 50% in the voting in 2002, before the baseball world was turned on it&#039;s head by allegations of widespread PED use.

He just wasn&#039;t considered by most to be worthy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. I think that even before PEDs his numbers were borderline at best. The magical 500 HRs, 3000 hits, 300 wins standards (as questionable as they may be) was in place during his era.</p>
<p>There is a reason why he didn&#8217;t even get to 50% in the voting in 2002, before the baseball world was turned on it&#8217;s head by allegations of widespread PED use.</p>
<p>He just wasn&#8217;t considered by most to be worthy.</p>
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		<title>By: clydeserra</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[grown men should not be looking at &quot;girls&quot; in bikinis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grown men should not be looking at &#8220;girls&#8221; in bikinis</p>
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		<title>By: jeffbbf</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the issue here is that before the PED debacle and expansion, Dawson&#039;s stats would make a very strong case for the HOF.  Now, 438 lifetime homers just don&#039;t seem all that impressive compared to Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmiero, Arod, etc.    Shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the issue here is that before the PED debacle and expansion, Dawson&#8217;s stats would make a very strong case for the HOF.  Now, 438 lifetime homers just don&#8217;t seem all that impressive compared to Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmiero, Arod, etc.    Shame.</p>
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		<title>By: mgflolox</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cltai, i believe you are (sadly), about 100% correct. I only hope I can avoid falling into the same sad mindset when I&#039;m an (even older) fart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cltai, i believe you are (sadly), about 100% correct. I only hope I can avoid falling into the same sad mindset when I&#8217;m an (even older) fart.</p>
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		<title>By: louhudson23</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini.  They show a lot, but not everything.  ~Toby Harrah, 1983

I wasn&#039;t there when he said it,so maybe he didn&#039;t really say it. But whoever said it knew what the hell they were talkin about...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini.  They show a lot, but not everything.  ~Toby Harrah, 1983</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t there when he said it,so maybe he didn&#8217;t really say it. But whoever said it knew what the hell they were talkin about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, the point isn&#039;t that steroids are useless as a PED, the point is that they don&#039;t do as much for hitting a baseball as do amphetamines. PITCHERS appear to benefit from steroids much more than hitters. 

The reasoning is simple, too. It involves a golf comparison (which I love). Hitting involves delivering a bat squarely to a ball, as does golf. But every decent golfer knows its all about contact rather than strength or speed. This is why old fat guys can beat me any day of the week you care to name: I am stronger than they are but they get better contact. They swing slower, without as much power but they square it up much more often than do I. Hence they win. 

Amphetamines and amphetamine-like drugs like adderall &amp; ritalin greatly improve concentration and ability to react. They improve your chances of square contact and the effect is within minutes of taking the drug. Steroids on the other had, coupled with a workout regime, will build your strength and endurance over months of hard work: this is what a pitcher needs. Now of course hitters need strength, too but to a lesser extent; no point in being big and strong if your contact sucks. While the combination of the two is formidable, nevertheless the foremost thing a hitter needs is square contact with the ball.  

Incidentally, if you want to work out longer, harder, and feel full of energy go with speed every time. There&#039;s a reason amphetamine can be found in certain legal &quot;energy&quot; drinks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the point isn&#8217;t that steroids are useless as a PED, the point is that they don&#8217;t do as much for hitting a baseball as do amphetamines. PITCHERS appear to benefit from steroids much more than hitters. </p>
<p>The reasoning is simple, too. It involves a golf comparison (which I love). Hitting involves delivering a bat squarely to a ball, as does golf. But every decent golfer knows its all about contact rather than strength or speed. This is why old fat guys can beat me any day of the week you care to name: I am stronger than they are but they get better contact. They swing slower, without as much power but they square it up much more often than do I. Hence they win. </p>
<p>Amphetamines and amphetamine-like drugs like adderall &amp; ritalin greatly improve concentration and ability to react. They improve your chances of square contact and the effect is within minutes of taking the drug. Steroids on the other had, coupled with a workout regime, will build your strength and endurance over months of hard work: this is what a pitcher needs. Now of course hitters need strength, too but to a lesser extent; no point in being big and strong if your contact sucks. While the combination of the two is formidable, nevertheless the foremost thing a hitter needs is square contact with the ball.  </p>
<p>Incidentally, if you want to work out longer, harder, and feel full of energy go with speed every time. There&#8217;s a reason amphetamine can be found in certain legal &#8220;energy&#8221; drinks.</p>
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		<title>By: louhudson23</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But if you could get a  ball up in the air....25 - 50 feet...makes a big difference. Acting as though this is some discussion on the basement steps is mystifying. We saw it. We lived it. We saw the damn balls fly out of the park. Lately we have seen it stop flying out of the park. Smell the fuckin coffee.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if you could get a  ball up in the air&#8230;.25 &#8211; 50 feet&#8230;makes a big difference. Acting as though this is some discussion on the basement steps is mystifying. We saw it. We lived it. We saw the damn balls fly out of the park. Lately we have seen it stop flying out of the park. Smell the fuckin coffee&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: louhudson23</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pitchers did not develop superhuman abilities. Hitters did.End of story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pitchers did not develop superhuman abilities. Hitters did.End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[abaird: do Phiten necklaces&#039;s work? Y&#039;know, the trendy &quot;titanium energy necklaces&quot;? The ones every pro-athlete under the sun is wearing? I&#039;m gong to say &quot;no&quot;: the do NOT do anything for you (except make you look like one of the herd). So you answer me this, then: why do players continue to wear them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abaird: do Phiten necklaces&#8217;s work? Y&#8217;know, the trendy &#8220;titanium energy necklaces&#8221;? The ones every pro-athlete under the sun is wearing? I&#8217;m gong to say &#8220;no&#8221;: the do NOT do anything for you (except make you look like one of the herd). So you answer me this, then: why do players continue to wear them?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremiah Graves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you&#039;re saying they enhance performance?

Steroids might bulk you up, but they sure as hell won&#039;t help you hit 50 home runs in the big leagues if you can&#039;t already hit home runs in the big leagues. I could take literally ALL of the steroids and I&#039;d be lucky to hit a ball to the warning track.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re saying they enhance performance?</p>
<p>Steroids might bulk you up, but they sure as hell won&#8217;t help you hit 50 home runs in the big leagues if you can&#8217;t already hit home runs in the big leagues. I could take literally ALL of the steroids and I&#8217;d be lucky to hit a ball to the warning track.</p>
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		<title>By: abaird2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You keep going on about how steroids are essentially useless as a PED and how amphetamines are much more effective. Let me ask you this: if steroids were so limited in their benefits, why did all these guys take tham?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep going on about how steroids are essentially useless as a PED and how amphetamines are much more effective. Let me ask you this: if steroids were so limited in their benefits, why did all these guys take tham?</p>
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		<title>By: dabirdguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andre Dawson is the kind of player that the stats lie about.
The stats say he was good. Very Good.
The stats do not impart how hard he played or the fear he put into opposing pitchers and managers.
The stats do not impart how much better his team played because of him.
The stats do not impart his clubhouse presence and leadership.
Everything today seems to be about the stats, like the &quot;arguments&quot; raised in this article.Guys that write this kind of crap should be boycotted, which I intend to do from today on. 
Matthew Pouliot is typical of most wannabe sportswriters. He wouldn&#039;t know a GOOD ballplayer from a bag of bats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andre Dawson is the kind of player that the stats lie about.<br />
The stats say he was good. Very Good.<br />
The stats do not impart how hard he played or the fear he put into opposing pitchers and managers.<br />
The stats do not impart how much better his team played because of him.<br />
The stats do not impart his clubhouse presence and leadership.<br />
Everything today seems to be about the stats, like the &#8220;arguments&#8221; raised in this article.Guys that write this kind of crap should be boycotted, which I intend to do from today on.<br />
Matthew Pouliot is typical of most wannabe sportswriters. He wouldn&#8217;t know a GOOD ballplayer from a bag of bats.</p>
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		<title>By: abaird2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He went to the doctor. The doctor gave him a shot. That&#039;s how they did it back in the day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He went to the doctor. The doctor gave him a shot. That&#8217;s how they did it back in the day.</p>
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		<title>By: 5toolgeezy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. You really hate Andre Dawson for some reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You really hate Andre Dawson for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: djpostl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing definite is one cannot say &quot;Dawson definitely belongs&quot;. 

He is every bit the borderline player and the author was spot on when referencing the crazy year that 1987 was.

You take that out of his line and replace it with what was his typical level of production in that stretch of his career and his numbers are Andruw Jones like.

And nobody would ever think of saying Jones is a sure fire HoFer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing definite is one cannot say &#8220;Dawson definitely belongs&#8221;. </p>
<p>He is every bit the borderline player and the author was spot on when referencing the crazy year that 1987 was.</p>
<p>You take that out of his line and replace it with what was his typical level of production in that stretch of his career and his numbers are Andruw Jones like.</p>
<p>And nobody would ever think of saying Jones is a sure fire HoFer.</p>
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		<title>By: eoneil32</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dawson definitely belongs...poor article written out of emotion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawson definitely belongs&#8230;poor article written out of emotion.</p>
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		<title>By: unlost1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[amphetamines might help you concentrate more  but they don&#039;t bulk you up to hit 50 home runs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amphetamines might help you concentrate more  but they don&#8217;t bulk you up to hit 50 home runs</p>
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		<title>By: timmmah10</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, we should instead just live with the wool over our bright eyes looking fondly at players of a different era and assume that they were better people than the ones playing today because technology back then didn&#039;t allow everything to be recorded, every story to be read, and outside of clubhouse interviews, we knew little of their lives.

I will also say:  If Ty Cobb&#039;s racist ass is hall of fame worthy, I do not see how Pete Rose&#039;s character keeps him out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, we should instead just live with the wool over our bright eyes looking fondly at players of a different era and assume that they were better people than the ones playing today because technology back then didn&#8217;t allow everything to be recorded, every story to be read, and outside of clubhouse interviews, we knew little of their lives.</p>
<p>I will also say:  If Ty Cobb&#8217;s racist ass is hall of fame worthy, I do not see how Pete Rose&#8217;s character keeps him out.</p>
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		<title>By: timmmah10</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously, you abuse it for the benefits of the drug, not the addiction.  You&#039;re arguing in circles to back peddle off of the fact that you don&#039;t know what the word &quot;abuse&quot; means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, you abuse it for the benefits of the drug, not the addiction.  You&#8217;re arguing in circles to back peddle off of the fact that you don&#8217;t know what the word &#8220;abuse&#8221; means.</p>
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		<title>By: jm91rs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait for real baseball to start up so everyone (on both sides of this issue) can stop crying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait for real baseball to start up so everyone (on both sides of this issue) can stop crying.</p>
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		<title>By: aceshigh11</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, this braddavery guy is the gift that keeps on giving!

Keep posting, pal...you&#039;re highly entertaining.  You bury yourself more with each post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this braddavery guy is the gift that keeps on giving!</p>
<p>Keep posting, pal&#8230;you&#8217;re highly entertaining.  You bury yourself more with each post.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steroids didn&#039;t make baseballs jumpy, changes in manufacturing made balls jumpy.  Steroids were taken by hitters and pitchers.  If you think steroids helped, then you must think that they helped both pitchers and hitters.  So....what would help offense but not affect pitching?  Changes to the ball which made it both bouncier and lighter due to lower ambient water absorption capacity.

You also seem to take Aaron at his word, but think anyone from a later era is more likely to be lying about his PED use.  There isn&#039;t any factual basis to think that Aaron is any more honest than guys that played the last 20 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steroids didn&#8217;t make baseballs jumpy, changes in manufacturing made balls jumpy.  Steroids were taken by hitters and pitchers.  If you think steroids helped, then you must think that they helped both pitchers and hitters.  So&#8230;.what would help offense but not affect pitching?  Changes to the ball which made it both bouncier and lighter due to lower ambient water absorption capacity.</p>
<p>You also seem to take Aaron at his word, but think anyone from a later era is more likely to be lying about his PED use.  There isn&#8217;t any factual basis to think that Aaron is any more honest than guys that played the last 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: louhudson23</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact that Aaron clearly stated he tried them and did not like them is immaterial to someone capable of making the false and inane comparison of  PED&#039;s to &quot;greenies&quot;..The desired effect is what you get....greenies made folks jumpy....steroids made baseballs jumpy......see the difference...and Henry Aaron used neither.....well other than those years his head got big and his nuts got small and he hit 70 plus HR&#039;s.....oh sorry,that was that other guy..........Hank is the HR King......a class act and a very nice man......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Aaron clearly stated he tried them and did not like them is immaterial to someone capable of making the false and inane comparison of  PED&#8217;s to &#8220;greenies&#8221;..The desired effect is what you get&#8230;.greenies made folks jumpy&#8230;.steroids made baseballs jumpy&#8230;&#8230;see the difference&#8230;and Henry Aaron used neither&#8230;..well other than those years his head got big and his nuts got small and he hit 70 plus HR&#8217;s&#8230;..oh sorry,that was that other guy&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Hank is the HR King&#8230;&#8230;a class act and a very nice man&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: blacksables</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Use does not equal abuse.


Why would you abuse a drug if you aren&#039;t addicted to it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use does not equal abuse.</p>
<p>Why would you abuse a drug if you aren&#8217;t addicted to it?</p>
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		<title>By: cktai</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one constant in &lt;del&gt;baseball&lt;/del&gt; history is that about 99% of old-timers always think they were much better than they really were. And certainly much better than those snot-nosed upstarts &lt;del&gt;playing major league baseball&lt;/del&gt; today. Honestly I can’t think of too many things more pathetic about &lt;del&gt;ex-athletes&lt;/del&gt; human beings in general.

Truth be told, I fully expect to hate the mid-twentieth century youth for being useless good-for-nothing hoodlums with a total lack of respect for the elderly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one constant in <del>baseball</del> history is that about 99% of old-timers always think they were much better than they really were. And certainly much better than those snot-nosed upstarts <del>playing major league baseball</del> today. Honestly I can’t think of too many things more pathetic about <del>ex-athletes</del> human beings in general.</p>
<p>Truth be told, I fully expect to hate the mid-twentieth century youth for being useless good-for-nothing hoodlums with a total lack of respect for the elderly.</p>
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