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	<title>Comments on: Are the Diamondbacks gonna get hosed in any Justin Upton deal?</title>
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		<title>By: The Common Man</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Common Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WAR is just a metric. It&#039;s good for some things and not good for others. In this case, I think it helps us compare players&#039; production across positions. But simply saying it&#039;s &quot;not good&quot; without offering any kind of argument about it is lazy and stupid.

That said, your point about the relative dominance of Seaver versus guys like Zachary and Henderson is a good one. And indeed, finding an elite talent like Seaver is far, far harder than mid-level players. That said, Seaver wasn&#039;t pitching at the same level when he was in Cincinnati, so your analogy, to me, seems a little off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAR is just a metric. It&#8217;s good for some things and not good for others. In this case, I think it helps us compare players&#8217; production across positions. But simply saying it&#8217;s &#8220;not good&#8221; without offering any kind of argument about it is lazy and stupid.</p>
<p>That said, your point about the relative dominance of Seaver versus guys like Zachary and Henderson is a good one. And indeed, finding an elite talent like Seaver is far, far harder than mid-level players. That said, Seaver wasn&#8217;t pitching at the same level when he was in Cincinnati, so your analogy, to me, seems a little off.</p>
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		<title>By: The Common Man</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Common Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Memory is so damn fickle. Milner moved to first base a full month before the trade, with Kranepool going to the OF. At that point, Kranepool was 32 and never was a productive player again. 

Moreover, even if the Mets may have executed the arrangement of their players inefficiently post-trade is not an indictment of the trade itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Memory is so damn fickle. Milner moved to first base a full month before the trade, with Kranepool going to the OF. At that point, Kranepool was 32 and never was a productive player again. </p>
<p>Moreover, even if the Mets may have executed the arrangement of their players inefficiently post-trade is not an indictment of the trade itself.</p>
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		<title>By: mazblast</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mazblast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember how certain Reds fans were that the deal for Seaver was going to result in multiple World Series titles, above and beyond the two they had just won.  It was like the Ken Griffey Jr. deal--the fans had decided, so why bother to even play the games?

Sparky Anderson, when asked why he didn&#039;t go out to the mound more often when Seaver was pitching--&quot;What the hell am I going to tell Tom Seaver that he don&#039;t already know?&quot;

Doug Flynn--Not much of a player, but a great guy.  Always had time to talk to fans and had a good sense of humor.  He was the backup to Morgan and Rose; thought Morgan was the bomb, that Joe was always teaching him things, but that Rose barely acknowledged his existence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember how certain Reds fans were that the deal for Seaver was going to result in multiple World Series titles, above and beyond the two they had just won.  It was like the Ken Griffey Jr. deal&#8211;the fans had decided, so why bother to even play the games?</p>
<p>Sparky Anderson, when asked why he didn&#8217;t go out to the mound more often when Seaver was pitching&#8211;&#8221;What the hell am I going to tell Tom Seaver that he don&#8217;t already know?&#8221;</p>
<p>Doug Flynn&#8211;Not much of a player, but a great guy.  Always had time to talk to fans and had a good sense of humor.  He was the backup to Morgan and Rose; thought Morgan was the bomb, that Joe was always teaching him things, but that Rose barely acknowledged his existence.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, your argument sort of does work for pitchers. When a team acquires a pitcher, he takes up the innings which would have been pitched by a fifth starter or a bullpen mop and bucket guy and those players are likely to be replacement level or close to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, your argument sort of does work for pitchers. When a team acquires a pitcher, he takes up the innings which would have been pitched by a fifth starter or a bullpen mop and bucket guy and those players are likely to be replacement level or close to it.</p>
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		<title>By: greymares</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greymares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[your talking 30 yrs. man]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your talking 30 yrs. man</p>
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		<title>By: yahmule</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yahmule]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like the time they traded for Ivan DeJesus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the time they traded for Ivan DeJesus.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not that WAR is overrated, you&#039;re just using it incorrectly. You&#039;re assuming that all of these players replaced replacement level players. They didn&#039;t. For example, the acquisition Steve Henderson moved John Milner to 1B and Ed Kranepool to the bench. 1977 Steve Henderson was better than 1976 Ed Kranepool and overall this improved the Mets, but not by as much as Henderson&#039;s raw WAR numbers suggest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that WAR is overrated, you&#8217;re just using it incorrectly. You&#8217;re assuming that all of these players replaced replacement level players. They didn&#8217;t. For example, the acquisition Steve Henderson moved John Milner to 1B and Ed Kranepool to the bench. 1977 Steve Henderson was better than 1976 Ed Kranepool and overall this improved the Mets, but not by as much as Henderson&#8217;s raw WAR numbers suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: greymares</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greymares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think they will get hosed the PHILLIES ARE USUALLY FAIR when they trade for players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they will get hosed the PHILLIES ARE USUALLY FAIR when they trade for players.</p>
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		<title>By: Sign Ahead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sign Ahead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is the Justin Upton trade melodrama in a nutshell: one baffling self-inflicted wound after another.

As a Diamondbacks fan, I was actually a little jealous when Jeffrey Loria imposed a media blackout on his front office. I would love to see the my team do the same thing, especially when it comes to talking about struggling players. Mr. Kendrick, Mr. Towers, we get it. You&#039;re frustrated with the team&#039;s uneven performance and you want to make changes. But when you let your frustration get the best of you while you&#039;re talking to the media, you weaken your position and make those changes very difficult.

Please, gentlemen, a little less you talk, a little more you think. We&#039;ll all be happier with the results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the Justin Upton trade melodrama in a nutshell: one baffling self-inflicted wound after another.</p>
<p>As a Diamondbacks fan, I was actually a little jealous when Jeffrey Loria imposed a media blackout on his front office. I would love to see the my team do the same thing, especially when it comes to talking about struggling players. Mr. Kendrick, Mr. Towers, we get it. You&#8217;re frustrated with the team&#8217;s uneven performance and you want to make changes. But when you let your frustration get the best of you while you&#8217;re talking to the media, you weaken your position and make those changes very difficult.</p>
<p>Please, gentlemen, a little less you talk, a little more you think. We&#8217;ll all be happier with the results.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, that right there is why you should evaluate trades years later instead of at the moment they happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that right there is why you should evaluate trades years later instead of at the moment they happen.</p>
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		<title>By: mJankiewicz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mJankiewicz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess there is some value in hearing other people&#039;s opinions to open your mind up to perspectives you wouldn&#039;t have considered otherwise.  But to condemn the article because he didn&#039;t give his opinion seems kind of petty to me.  It&#039;s still good information.  Just form your own opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there is some value in hearing other people&#8217;s opinions to open your mind up to perspectives you wouldn&#8217;t have considered otherwise.  But to condemn the article because he didn&#8217;t give his opinion seems kind of petty to me.  It&#8217;s still good information.  Just form your own opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never understand how trade discussions like this get this far. Upton can block trades to four teams. Those teams are well known. They&#039;re listed on Arizona&#039;s page on Cot&#039;s Contracts. How a conversation like this not have taken place early in the process?
 
Towers: &quot;Hey Justin, Jack Zduriencik up in Seattle is interested in you. How about you waive your NTC and we&#039;ll trade you to the Mariners?&quot;
Upton: &quot;How about &#039;No&#039;.&quot;
Towers: &quot;Ok, then Jack and I will work out a deal, announce it to the press, you&#039;ll veto it, and come out looking like a head case. That will reduce your trade value and lessen the return when I trade you to one of the 25 teams that is not on your NTC list. Ok?&quot;
Upton: &quot;Well, if that&#039;s really what you want to do, KT, I guess I can&#039;t stop you.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understand how trade discussions like this get this far. Upton can block trades to four teams. Those teams are well known. They&#8217;re listed on Arizona&#8217;s page on Cot&#8217;s Contracts. How a conversation like this not have taken place early in the process?</p>
<p>Towers: &#8220;Hey Justin, Jack Zduriencik up in Seattle is interested in you. How about you waive your NTC and we&#8217;ll trade you to the Mariners?&#8221;<br />
Upton: &#8220;How about &#8216;No&#8217;.&#8221;<br />
Towers: &#8220;Ok, then Jack and I will work out a deal, announce it to the press, you&#8217;ll veto it, and come out looking like a head case. That will reduce your trade value and lessen the return when I trade you to one of the 25 teams that is not on your NTC list. Ok?&#8221;<br />
Upton: &#8220;Well, if that&#8217;s really what you want to do, KT, I guess I can&#8217;t stop you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It could be worse, they could have written a heel of a story instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be worse, they could have written a heel of a story instead.</p>
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		<title>By: djjackson81</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djjackson81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who cares what a waist of story by NBC sports,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares what a waist of story by NBC sports,</p>
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		<title>By: schrutebeetfarms</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schrutebeetfarms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Normally when a headline includes the words &quot;Upton&quot; and &quot;hosed&quot; it leads to Kate Upton and a heckuva video.

This wasn&#039;t quite as interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally when a headline includes the words &#8220;Upton&#8221; and &#8220;hosed&#8221; it leads to Kate Upton and a heckuva video.</p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t quite as interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: The Common Man</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Common Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re welcome to that opinion, even if you can&#039;t see fit to back it up. But the truth is that the Mets would have sucked with or without Seaver in that era, and that he was nowhere near the pitcher for the Reds that he was with the Mets. The reasons they traded him (and Brian Kingman) were terrible, their refusal to build a winning team with their resources in the early days of free agency was unforgivable, but the trades themselves ultimately acquired players that collectively outperformed their counterparts (except for Flynn, whose terribleness really can&#039;t be overstated) in the aftermath of the Midnight Massacre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome to that opinion, even if you can&#8217;t see fit to back it up. But the truth is that the Mets would have sucked with or without Seaver in that era, and that he was nowhere near the pitcher for the Reds that he was with the Mets. The reasons they traded him (and Brian Kingman) were terrible, their refusal to build a winning team with their resources in the early days of free agency was unforgivable, but the trades themselves ultimately acquired players that collectively outperformed their counterparts (except for Flynn, whose terribleness really can&#8217;t be overstated) in the aftermath of the Midnight Massacre.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because that&#039;s not the point of analytical writing. Compare to Wendy Thurm&#039;s new article up on Fangraphs. 
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-boras-right-that-payrolls-are-lagging-behind-revenue/ 
Or Ben Lindbergh&#039;s piece this morning on Twins pitching. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=19391
They ask a question and actually bothers to answer it. Amazing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because that&#8217;s not the point of analytical writing. Compare to Wendy Thurm&#8217;s new article up on Fangraphs.<br />
<a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-boras-right-that-payrolls-are-lagging-behind-revenue/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-boras-right-that-payrolls-are-lagging-behind-revenue/</a><br />
Or Ben Lindbergh&#8217;s piece this morning on Twins pitching. <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=19391" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=19391</a><br />
They ask a question and actually bothers to answer it. Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always remember that Seaver trade with a smile--I was a huge fan of the Big Red Machine, especially Bench, but my fab pitcher was on the Mets until that trade.  The run of World Series appearances was done, but getting to see the Seaver-Bench battery was just awesome.

I also completely agree with the poster above who mentioned what a good guy Doug Flynn is.  He was one who would actually talk to us kids in addition to signing autographs rather than acting like we were a bother.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always remember that Seaver trade with a smile&#8211;I was a huge fan of the Big Red Machine, especially Bench, but my fab pitcher was on the Mets until that trade.  The run of World Series appearances was done, but getting to see the Seaver-Bench battery was just awesome.</p>
<p>I also completely agree with the poster above who mentioned what a good guy Doug Flynn is.  He was one who would actually talk to us kids in addition to signing autographs rather than acting like we were a bother.</p>
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		<title>By: mJankiewicz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mJankiewicz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why not just form you own opinion with the information provided?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not just form you own opinion with the information provided?</p>
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		<title>By: purnellmeagrejr</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jl9830 - aren&#039;t you glad you didn&#039;t call the poster you corrrected a jerk? (Seems to be normal internet protocol.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jl9830 &#8211; aren&#8217;t you glad you didn&#8217;t call the poster you corrrected a jerk? (Seems to be normal internet protocol.)</p>
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		<title>By: dohpey28</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that right there is why WAR is overrated]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that right there is why WAR is overrated</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an unfulfilling piece--lots of great information, but no analysis. What&#039;s the point of reviewing the situation, giving loads of interesting history, and then not bothering to actually analyze the situation and the history? 
If the point of the article was to just be a laundry list of previous trades, alright, whatever.  But why pose an interesting question and then not actually answer it? Jonah Keri&#039;s generally a good writer, but this piece fails to meet even the most basic requirements of analytical writing--ask a question, form a hypothesis, present evidence, bring it together in some sort of conclusion that related back to your argument. All he does is ask a question and present a list of evidence. 
Pretty shoddy, IMHO. 

/metarant over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an unfulfilling piece&#8211;lots of great information, but no analysis. What&#8217;s the point of reviewing the situation, giving loads of interesting history, and then not bothering to actually analyze the situation and the history?<br />
If the point of the article was to just be a laundry list of previous trades, alright, whatever.  But why pose an interesting question and then not actually answer it? Jonah Keri&#8217;s generally a good writer, but this piece fails to meet even the most basic requirements of analytical writing&#8211;ask a question, form a hypothesis, present evidence, bring it together in some sort of conclusion that related back to your argument. All he does is ask a question and present a list of evidence.<br />
Pretty shoddy, IMHO. </p>
<p>/metarant over.</p>
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		<title>By: American of African Descent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American of African Descent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WAR is not a good metric. 

But even if it were, arguing that two pitchers with a combined WAR of X are as valuable as one pitcher with a WAR of X is the functional equivalent of saying that a two &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-generation_jet_fighter&quot;second generation fighters&lt;/a&gt; are equal to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_jet_fighter&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one fourth generation fighter.&lt;/a&gt; Not so: I&#039;ll take one ace over two half aces in war or in baseball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAR is not a good metric. </p>
<p>But even if it were, arguing that two pitchers with a combined WAR of X are as valuable as one pitcher with a WAR of X is the functional equivalent of saying that a two &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-generation_jet_fighter&quot;second" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-generation_jet_fighter&quot;second</a> generation fighters are equal to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_jet_fighter" rel="nofollow">one fourth generation fighter.</a> Not so: I&#8217;ll take one ace over two half aces in war or in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: The Common Man</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Common Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Seaver trade actually wasn&#039;t that bad. Using Baseball Reference&#039;s WAR, Henderson and Zachary combined to be within a win of Seaver from 1977-1979 and were better in 1980. The problem was the inclusion of Flynn, who was truly horrible, and how much he was used: http://funkyball.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/notes-on-a-midnight-massacre/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Seaver trade actually wasn&#8217;t that bad. Using Baseball Reference&#8217;s WAR, Henderson and Zachary combined to be within a win of Seaver from 1977-1979 and were better in 1980. The problem was the inclusion of Flynn, who was truly horrible, and how much he was used: <a href="http://funkyball.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/notes-on-a-midnight-massacre/" rel="nofollow">http://funkyball.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/notes-on-a-midnight-massacre/</a></p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New Headline:

&quot;Are the Diamondbacks gonna get sprinkled in any Justin Upton deal?&quot;

Nah. Too many religious overtones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Headline:</p>
<p>&#8220;Are the Diamondbacks gonna get sprinkled in any Justin Upton deal?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nah. Too many religious overtones.</p>
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		<title>By: jl9830</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jl9830]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NO. I&#039;M WRONG. My bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO. I&#8217;M WRONG. My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: jl9830</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those four players were traded for a young Nolan Ryan, not Tom Seaver.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those four players were traded for a young Nolan Ryan, not Tom Seaver.</p>
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		<title>By: yahmule</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comparing this guy even obliquely to Tom Terrific? Get a grip on yourself.]]></description>
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		<title>By: xpensivewinos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xpensivewinos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a positive note, Doug Flynn is one of the nicest human beings I&#039;ve ever met.  So there&#039;s that :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a positive note, Doug Flynn is one of the nicest human beings I&#8217;ve ever met.  So there&#8217;s that <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Phoenix, that would be subject to water conservation rules, so it won&#039;t be &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Phoenix, that would be subject to water conservation rules, so it won&#8217;t be <i>too</i> bad.</p>
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