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Cashman: there’s a chance A-Rod misses the whole year

Jan 25, 2013, 2:39 PM EDT

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Brian Cashman was on WFAN today and, when asked about Alex Rodriguez‘s prognosis, acknowledged there is a chance he could miss the whole season:

“Yeah,” Cashman replied when asked if there was a chance that A-Rod could miss the entire season. “I think because (of) the serious nature of the surgery and the condition that he’s trying to recover from, you know, there is that chance.”

With any injury there is a possibility that setbacks can occur, and A-Rod’s injury and surgery were major ones. Cashman, for his part, preemptively notes that if his recovery takes longer than expected, it won’t be because Rodriguez isn’t trying his hardest to come back.

Still, can’t wait until the All-Star break comes around, Rodriguez is delayed in his return by a couple of weeks and the usual suspects in the New York press get their knives out for the guy. When that happens we’ll have a pool to guess which scribe cites Derek Jeter coming back on schedule from his broken leg as evidence that A-Rod simply isn’t a leader and a winner and all of that jazz.

  1. dcfan4life - Jan 25, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    I think part of the New York media anger over Arod is the fact that he has some serious letdowns. He has failed miserably in every postseason but one, he is an admitted steroid user, and he has an insane contract that he is maybe worth a quarter of right now. Those are prime reasons for the New York media to attack. Jeter on the other hand is big in the postseason, is worth his contract, and has zero PED accusations. One may not agree with the press attacking Arod, but you have to at least understand it.

    • cur68 - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

      Holy shit. I gotta defend Alex Rodriguez now? Doesn’t everyone know how to use baseballref? If they did they’d not get on here and put me into such a position where I see a palpable untruth.

      <blockquote<He has failed miserably in every postseason but one

      I don’t know what are you basing this opinion that ARod has sucked in every season but one as a Yankee and Jeets has been much better, but there isn’t any evidence for it.

      Per BRef here’s the numbers. They go BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ WAR over his 2004 to 2012 seasons as a Yankee:
      .292 .387 .538 .925 141 49.8

      Now here’s Jeter over the same span:

      .309 .375 .436 .811 114 30.6

      In my world that’s ARod > Jeter.
      Thanks a lot, by the way. I’ve just defended a Yankee and Alex Rodriguez at that. I feel so dirty. . .

      • chuchasantamaria - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:07 PM

        beat me to the punch cur. yeah, Arod’s an asshole (though that’s not even the right word – reading stories about him trying to fit into the yankee clubhouse in verducci/torre’s ‘the yankee years’ is kinda painfully sad) but dude is an awesome baseball player, and for some reason some New Yorkers refuse to see it.

      • cur68 - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

        I friggin DETEST that guy, but there is no doubt about it: he’s been awesome at baseball. Knock him for the unicorn thing (even if it isn’t true, it SOUNDS true), and picking up chicks from the stands and cheating on his wife and a whole bunch of other dolt things he’s done but DON’T hate him for underperforming and then cite JETER for dog’s sake. ARod’s been great for the Yankees. At least as good as Jeets and he deserves some respect for his playing ability.

        Jeez. I’m just getting dirtier and dirtier here….

      • lionsplayoffs - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

        I think what you both mean is that A-Rod has been awesome at baseball as long as he’s juicing. Without steroids he’s nothing.

      • gregofla - Jan 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

        dcfan4life said every postseason, not every season.

        ARod’s postseason numbers for his career (11 playoffs, 9 with NYY)
        13 41 8 3 39 75 .263 .369 .464 .833

        Jeter’s postseason number (16 playoffs, all with NYY)
        10 28 6 3 24 54 .343 .397 .519 .916

      • anxovies - Jan 25, 2013 at 6:12 PM

        Don’t fight it guys, just go with it. Start thinking about the great players like Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio and Mantle, watch “Pride of the Yankees” several times and read one of books of Yogi’s sayings. Visit Yankee Stadium and meander through the monuments of the great players only to end up before The Boss. In no time you will find yourself in the right field bleachers wearing a Donnie Baseball jersey chanting ARod! ARod!

      • Glenn - Jan 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM


        Not sure where you are getting your stats, but Jeter’s post season numbers are about the same as his regular season numbers – actually a bit lower. His post season BA is .308 for example. Not sure where you got .343. That may be just his WS or ALCS numbers.

      • raysfan1 - Jan 25, 2013 at 10:45 PM

        Your Jeter stats are only his ALDS stats. Also, using cumulative stats to compare with A-Rod is a bit misleading when he has played in more postseason games (not a major criticism as you did include the rate stats which are more valid in comparing the two).

        Using the career postseason stats, here’s how it breaks down:
        Jeter: BA .308, OBP .374, SLG .465, OPS .838, K/BB 2.09
        Rodriguez: BA .263, OBP .369, SLG .464, OPS .833, K/BB 1.92

        Jeter’s higher batting average is offset by A-Rod’s greater plate discipline as evidenced by the lower K/BB ratio, resulting in virtually identical OBP, SLG, and OPS.

    • chuchasantamaria - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM

      though this has been rebutted in many different ways, i still don’t really see how jeter has been ‘big in the postseason’ as opposed to Arod, as this article amply lays out: I mean, Jeter has a NEGATIVE clutch score for his career in the postseason! (note that this doesn’t mean that i think he sucks, just saying you could easily make the opposite case) Anyway, people can’t just throw out 2009 because it doesn’t fit the narrative. The contract also is not his fault – blame management for that one. And i really doubt that the PED thing is the reason that he gets a bad rap – lets just face it, the press doesn’t like Rodriguez because he’s an awkward mess who is pretty much terrible at interacting with other people (like many supremely talented/obsessive athletes) while Jeter is a total pro at dealing with the media (if a little personality-free for my taste). It’s kind of amazing that Arod is the ONLY current MLB player who was born (and grew up in) new york city proper, led the yankees to a world series victory after winning an MVP, switched from a position that he was better at out of deference to jeter, is one of the greatest players of all time, but STILL is pretty much loved by noone. I guess he can comfort himself with his millions….

      • paperlions - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:40 PM

        The variance between performance and fan perception with respect to ARod and Jeter is 100% confirmation bias. Based on established narrative, people expect ARod to fail and only notice when he does fail, ignoring or dismissing his successes. Similarly, the “Jeter is clutch” narrative is established so that every time he makes a non-out in the post season his clutchiness is reinforced, while his far more common failures are simply ignored.

      • Alex K - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:00 PM

        One thing…he didn’t grow up in NYC. Not that it really matters, however.

      • chuchasantamaria - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

        @alex – oh yeah, my bad. but still! born in washington heights!

      • chuchasantamaria - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        haha and as a native new yorker, i gotta admit that sometimes i just think of miami and the DR as distant outposts of new york anyway, so perhaps that’s where my confusion lay…

    • djpostl - Jan 25, 2013 at 7:59 PM

      @cur68 um, he said POST-season. Not every regular season.

      Reedin komprehenshun iz gud

      • cur68 - Jan 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM

        @djposti: there is no getting to the post season without ARod’s contribution. The post season is so short that ANY player, no matter how good, can look less good while a total mule can look “clutch” (see Young, Delmon).

        Knowing baseball iz gud, too (you snide prick).

      • raysfan1 - Jan 25, 2013 at 11:06 PM

        In Jeter’s case, he’s played in 158 career postseason games, almost a full season’s worth. A-Rod has only played in 75. Jeter is therefore obviously ahead in all cumulative stats; however, see my post above to note that their rate stats are extremely similar.

        I like Jeter far more than A-Rod, but there is no arguing the numbers– during the regular seasons A-Rod has been the superior player (and WAR reflects his being a clearly superior fielder), and hey are interchangeable in the postseason. There just is no fact based argument to call Jeter “clutch” or A-Rod a failure, no matter whether using regular season or postseason stats.

        Paperlions is right…there is a perceptual difference in fans’ minds with confirmation bias causing inaccurate assessment of the two…particularly undervaluing Rodriguez’ contributions.

        Now, like Cur, I’m no Yankee or A-Rod fan, so I must go shower after being forced to defend him.

  2. stex52 - Jan 25, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    With stupendous contracts come great responsibilities. I have never been that much of an A-Rod fan, but this present stuff seems a bit unfair. He obviously had real medical problems. Jump on the Yankees for being idiots. I don’t think he is dogging it in any way.

  3. maxabrams1704 - Jan 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Being good in “only” one postseason would make him a hero in most cities, carrying a team to a title should mean you never have to buy a drink in that town again. His production as slipped as, late into his 30s, he’s had hip problems. Aka, like 99.99% of players in mlb history. O ya, and that whole winning mvp thing. Paying someone close to 40 isn’t the player’s fault, it’s the team’s

    • dan1111 - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:54 AM

      I suppose 42 is “close to 40”–because that’s the age the Yankees are paying him until.

  4. cackalackyank - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Well, I hate to jinx anything, but Jeter hasn’t come back on time from his injury yet either. I do have more confidence in Jeter coming back on time than I do for A-rod , though. In A-rods case the one concern I have is that in trying to get back from this hip surgery he re-injures the previously repaired hip. In order for him to be effective he needs to be able to field his position well at least 2 games a week. In reality, to make it worth pushing his rehab the Yankees will have to be within 12 games of the playoffs come the Fourth of July, and I am sorry to say looking at this year on paper that will not be the case. The Yankees rotation and bullpen is not built to get by with only 3-4 runs of support average per game. Of course the games are not played on paper. The lack of a real catcher and any serious right handed bat for OF/DH, put together with other questions about the offense make it look like the rebuild is on.

  5. urfinished - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    I’d still rather have our AAA 3rd basement over Youk. Disgusting.

  6. buffalomafia - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Hey Cashman you big dork! Get rid of A-Rod!

    Now that he & Hulk Hogan doesn’t do the juice anymore there bidies are breaking down!!!

    • cur68 - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM

      I can’t tell if this is a crack about Madonna or not. I mean she’s old enough to qualify as a biddy, but I don’t think she fits any other of the criteria. If it is a Madonna crack, well I had no idea she was in poor health. Get well soon, Mads.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:54 PM

        Hey! >:) Back off. She’s no biddy. She’s a phoenix.

      • cur68 - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:01 PM

        Phoenix? You mean she isn’t real? I didn’t know you could have so much surgery that you’d no longer qualify as real. Well. There’s a thing.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM

        This fort sucks!

        /grabs Wonder Woman comic and stomps out

    • thebadguyswon - Jan 25, 2013 at 5:15 PM

      Hulk Hogan seems to be hanging in there quite well. If you get my drift.

  7. Tim's Neighbor - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Jeter is smart enough not to have hurt his hip. Arod is such a dumb.

  8. paperlions - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    All-Star break? Heck, I fully expect to see stories that contrast Jeter’s heroic early return from injury to ARod’s failure to be ready for the season during the first week of spring training.

    • historiophiliac - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:14 PM

      clutch healing!

  9. sportsnut101 - Jan 25, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Guess he can’t really say. He wants insurance to pick up tab if he’s out the yr lmao.

    I didn’t notice he was on the team until they kept saying why arod sucks in playoffs

  10. nolanwiffle - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    There was a time, in the not too distant past, when I thought this guy was a cinch to reach 800 home runs. That now feels like a long time ago.

  11. stlouis1baseball - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Pepto Bismol is nowhere to be found in Anaheim.

  12. dxtheking - Jan 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Retire, Retire, Retire! I mean really, does anyone think he is gonna bust his butt to get back on the field? Selfish player waayyyy past his prime.
    Huge Yankee fan that can’t stand to watch Alex step into the batters box anymore.

    • Alex K - Jan 25, 2013 at 7:19 PM

      I would be super surprised if he didn’t do everything he can to get back on the field. He’s always worked his ass off. And excuse him for not playing well hurt as a guy in his mid thirties.

      A reasonable person.

      • dxtheking - Jan 25, 2013 at 7:32 PM

        more like
        Signed ,
        Someone that hasn’t watched baseball in the last 3 years.

      • dxtheking - Jan 26, 2013 at 2:10 AM

        When was the last time you saw Arod hit a fastball?

      • Alex K - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:03 AM

        When was the last time you saw him swing a bat when he was healthy?

      • beachnbaseball - Jan 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM

        Agree. Kind of hard to get any power in your swing if you can’t swing your hips.

  13. thebadguyswon - Jan 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Am I the only baseball fan in America that thinks Arod has had a better career that Jeter?

    • Alex K - Jan 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM

      No. A-Rod is easily better than Jeter. It’s not really close, either.

      • dxtheking - Jan 25, 2013 at 7:30 PM

        Alex is in no way better than Jeter at this point in their careers. Pure numbers standpoint Alex has had a better career., but Jeter is one of the best leaders to ever step on the ball field. Jeter first ballot HOFer, Alex not so much.

      • Reflex - Jan 25, 2013 at 8:21 PM

        In what world is ARod not a first ballot, no doubt HOFer? The only possible way he could miss that mark is if the writers keep their current views on steroids, which is possible. Based purely on his stats however, ARod is not just first ballot, he’s inner circle, one of the top twenty position players who ever played, easily.

      • Alex K - Jan 25, 2013 at 10:47 PM

        At this very second, no, A-Rod is not better than Jeter. For their careers? Jeter isn’t particularly close to Alex. Also, if Jeter only wanted what is good for the team he would have moved of SS when the Yankees got A-Rod because Alex was a much better defensive SS.

        And I’m with Reflex, in what world is A-Rod not easily and overwhelmingly a first ballot Hall of Famer? He is probably one of the 10 best players in baseball history.

      • dxtheking - Jan 26, 2013 at 2:08 AM

        Maybe top 20, but not top 10. As for first ballet HOF, if Barry Bonds isn’t first ballot, Alex isn’t either.
        @Alex K, you think Alex can play ss at Derek’s level over the last 3-4 seasons? Not to say that Jeter is a capable ss anymore, but Alex lost all of his mobility since he got “bigger” and Jeter makes the plays he should.
        It’s quite embarrassing to be arguing between Jeter and Arod.
        I would venture to say that all 30 teams would rather have Derek over a full career. Their is a reason he has been on the same team for 18 seasons.

      • Alex K - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:01 AM

        We will never know how A-Rod would have aged if he hadn’t moved off SS. Like I said earlier, Jeter has been better than A-Rod for the last couple years, but he still hasn’t had close to the career Alex has.

        I would venture to say that if teams could choose between Jeter and A-rod over their full careers they would choose A-Rod over Jeter everyday and twice on Sunday. There is a reason he has been the highest paid player in MLB for a long time.

      • raysfan1 - Jan 26, 2013 at 10:05 AM

        Yes, there is a reason why Jeter has been with one team his whole career and A-Rod hasn’t. Lets see– could it be that while both are HOF talents, only one got lucky enough to break into the bigs on a team that was wealthy enough to be able to outbid all other suitors each time the player reached free agency?

  14. sarcasticks - Jan 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    So, you’re saying there’s a chance?

  15. pisano - Jan 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    One can only hope he’s out for the entire year and beyond.

  16. greymares - Jan 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    if A-Rod misses the whole year that will be 2 in a row.

  17. capone888 - Jan 25, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Yanks can opt out of A-Rod’s contract if he misses the entire year. Sounds like Cashman is laying the groundwork for that to happen. If I was you A-Rod, I would watch your back around Cashman….accidents can happen.

    • pisano - Jan 25, 2013 at 7:58 PM

      capone…. I hope you’re correct on that opt-out on the contract, and I hope the Yankees and the rest of MLB learn these ten year contracts are suicide for the teams that are dumb enough to give them. Hopefully Cashmen and the Yankees have learned their lesson, especially with Cano thinking he’s going to get one from the Yankees

    • beachnbaseball - Jan 26, 2013 at 2:15 PM

      They cannot opt out of his contract. The only thing they could do is try to move him (unlikel) or buy him out.

  18. pgilbert15303 - Jan 25, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    I hated Cashman for stealing A-rod from my Sox.

    God bless you Cashman and bless you Magic Johnson & Co. Go Sox!

  19. drewzducks - Jan 25, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Look on the bright side, the Yanks may be able to hold out one more year before the next $6M “performance” bonus kicks in at HR #660.

  20. beachnbaseball - Jan 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    The reporter already knew what Cashman’s response would be when he asked him if it was possible A-Rod could miss the entire season. Did he really expect him to say, “of course that’s not possible.”

  21. mtr75 - Jan 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Interesting, how many people were voting me down and calling me a moron the other day when I said A-Rod was done? He is finished. He knows it. The Yankees know it.

    • badintent - Jan 29, 2013 at 3:00 AM

      Love to be a fly on the wall inthe insurance company that the Yankees wrote the A-rod policy with.there are a lot of blogheads here that want to escape reality on this subject and many others .Please don’t take it personally, I gotta deal with mental midgets on PBT.

  22. theskinsman - Jan 27, 2013 at 5:15 AM

    If A-Roid misses the season, the Yanks get to cash in on an insurance policy…I think. Besides, if Youk can stay healthy,and Joba doesn’t continue trying to bean him whenever he sees him….I think his production will be fine.

    Besides, with Afraud under investigation again, It’s better to have him out of sight until the next blaming of a cousin.

  23. beachnbaseball - Jan 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    The insurance policy is issued by Team Scotti, a Pittsburgh-based insurance firm that provides insurance to Major League Baseball teams. The exact terms of the insurance policy are not publicized but most experts agree that the policy will cover between 75% and 100% of his contract. He has to be out a full season before the insurance kicks in. There are no provisions for a reimbursement for a partial season. It is also not known if the policy covers the life of the contract. Team Scotti was quoted in an article in Insurance Journal that said most policies issued for players are limited to 5 years. It’s not known if the Rodriguez contract has a term limit. Many policies also have exclusions for certain injuries but it isn’t believed that the injury Rodriguez had would be excluded.

    As to your other point, Rodriguez is not being investigated. A doctor in south Florida who has been advising him and other players on training, nutrition and dietary supplements is under investigation by the DEA and MLB for possible links to PEDs.

  24. bubba56 - Jan 27, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    SO, here’s my questions. Here’s a guy who’s making a gazillion dollars a day for pretty much doing nothing. If he wanted to play againin2013, why did he wait nearly three months after he helped the Yankees make to the off-season to get his hip surgery done? Why didn’t he have surgery on about October 10th, 2012? And why didn’t the folks writing his paychecks, get that surgeon scheduled in a hurry?

    • beachnbaseball - Jan 28, 2013 at 8:42 AM

      There is no conspiracy involved nor was Rodriguez dragging his feet. He didn’t have surgery on October 10th because he didn’t know anything on October 10th.

      Here’s the breakdown for the timeline. In game 3 of the ALDS he told Girardi his right hip hurt and it should probably be checked out. He went to the hospital and underwent a MRI which came back clean. The series continued but he was still feeling discomfort and saw limited action from there on out.

      In November he went to Colorado, as he does every off season, for a physical. That’s when it was discovered that he had a torn labrum in his left hip.

      Surgery was needed to repair the hip but his doctors ordered six weeks of physical therapy to strengthen and condition the hip prior to surgery. After thr six weeks of PT, surgery was done on January 16th.

      Now he faces 4-6 months of rehab.

      • mtr75 - Jan 28, 2013 at 11:19 AM

        Fail. The “pre-hab” bit was all smoke and mirrors. A-Rod is done, was done at the end of the season, the Yankees knew it, A-Rod knew it, the doctors knew it. I told everyone this two weeks ago and everyone jumped on me – “how stupid are you? He’s doing pre-hab”. Yeah, yeah. And I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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