Comments on: A-Rod’s legacy is destroyed? What legacy?

By: cur68

cur68 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:13:57 +0000

The numbers say otherwise.

By: American of African Descent

American of African Descent — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:45:23 +0000

Not only is it defensible that Jeter cemented his legacy before A-Rod arrived, it’s a fact.

A-Rod has made very valuable contributions to the Yankees. Still, when I compare titles — which is what the Yankees are all about — along with the rest of the body of work, it’s hard to say that A-Rod is a greater Yankee than Jeter. The Mariners teams of the late nineties and early ’00s should be a lesson to you that a collection of players with great statistics does not mean that the team is a great team.

By: cur68

cur68 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:25:44 +0000

Maybe. You can argue that Jeter cemented his legacy before Alex Rodriguez came on the scene: I don’t think that’s indefensible. BUT with ARod there, Jeter’s had a considerable boost to his own chances and not to mention all the back up he gets from having a superior defender right next to him. Its allowed Jeter to remain at short when he should have been a platoon bat 2 years ago. But, none of this is anywhere near as ridiculous as the way ARod’s career has been judged by Yankee fans. He’s been a great Yankee. He actually ranks above Jeter on my list of all time best Yankees and just behind DiMaggio.

By: 6stn

6stn — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:09:40 +0000

He can’t stay healthy anymore. He’s pretty much done as a ballplayer. Healthy bank account, though. Judging from the picture, looks like he’s going to enjoy life as Malcolm X Rodriguez.

By: dannythebisforbeast

dannythebisforbeast — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:44:43 +0000

Hall of fame or half a billion dollars. hmmm what to do

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:34:04 +0000

Read Primary Colors and loved Travolta and Emma Thompson in the film version, though Billy Bob Thornton and Kathy Bates ran away with their part too. Sad now to think about the great Larry Hagman cameo though, isn't it?

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:30:19 +0000

Da Fonz is cool. Da rest is all wannabes.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:29:12 +0000

Well, I admit that twenty seven doesn’t sound like much when you’re trying to eradicate a hundred thousand of them. But I’m not worried. The nuclear winter from the next Nemesis meteoroid will finish the bastards off, and it won’t cost the taxpayers a dime.

By: indaburg

indaburg — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:45:58 +0000

Who said anything about being an average good guy?

I did notice those girls. I’m sure his bank account and fame have absolutely nothing to do with their attentiveness.

He is rich and he may be cheating, but he is not cool. Derek Jeter is the epitome of cool. Rodriguez is a tone deaf, rich, dumb jock. And if these newest allegations about him are true, lord, he’s even dumber than I thought.

By: sdelmonte

sdelmonte — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:08:43 +0000

Thanks, Mr C, for being just about the only bastion of sanity in regards to this today.

Now can we please talk about the other players in baseball? Please?

By: American of African Descent

American of African Descent — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:57:23 +0000

You realize that Jeter has five rings and A-Rod has one ring, right? And that Jeter’s legacy as a clutch play-off performer was cemented when the Yankees won four World Series in five years?

A-Rod is the more productive regular season player, no doubt about that. But to even suggest that A-Rod made Jeter is ridiculous.

By: American of African Descent

American of African Descent — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:52:27 +0000

You’re right, of course, on the objective metrics. Here’s the problem — A-Rod was making so much more money than anyone else in the league that he was going to be the scapegoat for whatever went wrong with any team he was on. So the Rangers in the early ’00s sucked because they had no pitching? Why didn’t A-Rod learn to pitch? Yankees blew a 3 game lead 2004? Why didn’t the $25 million man produce? You get the idea.

While A-Rod is no longer head-and-shoulders more highly compensated than the next guy, the stigma that he’s overpaid and doesn’t deliver still exists. It’s unfair. But so is the fact that A-Rod makes more in a year than some the cumulative lifetime earnings of some families.

By: badintent

badintent — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:47:30 +0000

ARodless is coming out with his new book Maxing Out.. Foreward by Jose Canceso. Aftermath by Jose ,Editor’s note by Jose. Pics of and by Jose.
Only 27 python killed so far in Florida. What are the 600 hunters using ? Arodless dung for bait ??

By: brewcitybummer

brewcitybummer — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:52:19 +0000

I’m eating hospital Boston creme pie as I write this and its so bad it tastes like cake. The American medical system is so bad they’ve ruined pie.

By: bh192012

bh192012 — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:44:12 +0000

“He’s socially awkward and inept ”

You do see the hot chicks in the photo? He seems to be quite able to find social favor where he wants it. He seems to be a slick liar as well based on his past interviews and the recent revelation.

We hate him because he’s cool, rich and cheating… and up til now, maybe, profesionally getting away with it. He’s the exact opposite of a socially awkward average good guy.

By: frank35sox

frank35sox — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:29:50 +0000

Craig, you kind of read of how girlfriend listens–clearly it is not being suggested ARod has a great legacy. Read carefully, “whatever little piece of his legacy he still controlled.”

By: indaburg

indaburg — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:14:06 +0000

It was probably the saltiness of my tears while lamenting the offseason that affected the cake’s taste.

By: stex52

stex52 — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:09:38 +0000

You speak the truth, Cur. The stats are so overwhelming that one suspects Craig of a minor troll job. If he never plays again his stats are better than almost all of the guys presently on the voting list for Cooperstown.

It’s easy not to like him. But anything to the contrary on his performance is crap.

By: moogro

moogro — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:35:11 +0000

Leave A-rod alone?

By: cowdisciple

cowdisciple — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:33:27 +0000

It’s not inaccurate – at times, A-Rod was a good player. At other times, he was all-time great.

By: sjhaack

sjhaack — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:19:59 +0000

Agreed, that also stood out to me. “A good player at times” is an awfully modest way to describe a guy with an inner circle Hall of Fame-caliber career. He’s one of those ‘cut him in half and you have two hall of famers’ kind of guys. Take 3/4 of his stats and you can have a conversation whether Derek Jeter or 3/4 of ARod was a better shortstop.

By: jrobitaille23

jrobitaille23 — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:18:01 +0000

Arod himself asked everyone to please judge him from this day forward at his press conference in 09. Since that time he has been average at best and extremely injury prone without his steroids. Sure he used HGH and other things that aren’t detected in urine, but steroids made him into the best money could buy. There are many like myself who believe the majority are on whatever they can get their hands on, at least until the Mitchell report. I have worked out with weights since a teen and know the difference between natural and enhanced. As far back as early eighties there were guys juicing. You can’t tell me Rickey Henderson wasn’t saucing. Arod is poster boy for before and after PED use. Just compare his numbers prior to 09 with those after. If you go throughout history and look at stats you will see that only on very rare occasions will a player be able to produce into their mid 30s. Most that could were Hall of Famers. Most however were great until 32, 33 and then fell off the map. nowadays these freaks are playing well into their thirties and PEDs are what allows this.

By: sisqsage

sisqsage — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:16:58 +0000

Didn’t he lose just about everyone’s respect when he tried to swat the ball out of a Red Sox glove on a play at first base and Schilling called him out on it? A true cowardly act by A-Fraud.
He’s lasted this long because there’s always been an owner foolish enough to overpay him. He put up huge numbers in Tex, but that contract still bankrupted the franchise. With that hip he’ll likely never play again and the Yanks still owe him $100 mil. A-Fraud’s legacy: no character and overpaid every step of the way.
Yet, it still amazes me that he became a very young star in Seattle on a team that also had Griffey Jr. and Randy Johnson – and they never made it to the World Series, let alone win one.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:05:22 +0000

Sally, nothing could ever ruin cake. Gator, I like muffins. Muffins are like mini cakes. Did you ever read Primary Colors? Nice, quick read. And muffins were mentioned a Lot in there…though the muffins referred to in the book were really something else. Now…what the hell was I saying? Oh, yeah, Sally, maybe you got your cake from a piebaby trying to skew the dessert market in the direction of a lesser product.

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:03:32 +0000

Man, it’s like everyone woke up and put on their hater pants today.

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:49:02 +0000

The origins of baseball stood for integrity and respect towards teammates, opponents and fans

Hahaha really? Except if you’re black, or latino, or female….

By: ezthinking

ezthinking — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:34:54 +0000

yes. See the other 10 posts on this.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:34:45 +0000

Craig, you’ll have to kick him harder than that. He’s still liable to get up again.

By: cur68

cur68 — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:34:17 +0000

I can’t believe Craig just undersold ARod’s performance as a Yankee. Is there something in the title “sportswriter” that makes one unable to judge Alex Rodriguez’s numbers? In my opinion Rodriguez has been a GREAT player at times. At the least, far better than “good, at times” as Craig writes. I won’t re-hash the numbers: anyone with a functional internet browser can do it and see that ARod’s had phenomenal seasons, lead a team to a WS title, won MVPs. In essence played better than Jeter, the guy he’s constantly compared to. What’s more he’s showed better skills at short stop than Jeter, even though it was ARod, NOT Jeter, that changed position for “the good of the team”. This move in essence defines what is wrong with this constant “ARod is a bad Yankee” crap. In fact its Jeter that hurt the team by remaining at short. On any other team, with anyone not named “Jeter”, you line their numbers up at short, and the job probably doesn’t go to Jeter. In my opinion, Alex Rodriguez is the better Yankee. They do not get to as many post seasons as they have done without him. And without that, Jeter’s “post season clutchyness” is totally worthless. He’s done it by standing on Alex Rodriguez’s shoulders. Probably with his spikes on.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:32:02 +0000

May I suggest muffins as an alternative? I made a dozen and a half nonpareil yuzu muffins last night and savored it for breakfast this AM with light butter spread and a few dabs of Meyer lemon marmalade.