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Your daily dose of “A-Rod can never play again” hysteria

Jan 30, 2013, 6:32 AM EST

Lots of people spent time yesterday declaring that, despite the fact lots of players have had PED suspensions and have come back to play, A-Rod simply can’t possibly do that. Because he’s A-Rod and that makes things different somehow.

But no one forced that meme more audaciously than ESPN’s Darren Rovell:

 

Yup: The Yankees, A-Rod and an actual doctor should commit insurance fraud. Because A-Rod can’t possibly play again because of … reasons.

At some point people will get a grip. It may not be for a while, but they will eventually have to get a grip.

  1. papalurchdxb - Jan 30, 2013 at 6:42 AM

    Hiding the crime in plain sight though by throwing it out there first, maybe not as stupid as he sounds. Oh, wait…

    Can’t we all just wait until at least some sort of actual investigation takes place into this, by a real authority other than an MLB lackey, to see if there is any credibility to the claims before we tie him to the ducking stool?

    • fanofevilempire - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:23 PM

      you telling me Alex paid with his credit card, he has a cousin for that.
      bs if you ask me.

  2. brewcrewfan54 - Jan 30, 2013 at 6:53 AM

    Instead of finding creative ways to void a contract or however they want to spin it maybe they should just learn not to overpay aging stars to expensive, long contracts. Although something tells me Jeter will be the last guy that gets one of these deals for a while from the Yanks.

    • papalurchdxb - Jan 30, 2013 at 6:59 AM

      implying what – that A-Rod (allegedly) only used banned substances to try and justify the price tag & therefore it’s the Yankees fault he couldn’t handle the pressure?

      Money only increases his access to these things and makes it easy for him to partake, it’s not the reason he (allegedly) took them.

      If the Yankees knew, that’s different, but I don’t see what a contract has to do with this mess.

      • purnellmeagrejr - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM

        I experience a profound indiffference to AROD’s reasons for taking steroids.

    • fanofevilempire - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:12 AM

      Hank gave Alex the contract, which was dumb because the Yanks got money from Texas to pay
      part of the salary he was currently working under. The Yanks envisioned Alex breaking the all time record in pinstripes and they would make truck loads of money.

      I would like to remind people that the 2011 MVP of the Brewers tested positive.
      I guess some people catch a break and some don’t.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:00 AM

        My statement isn’t really about steroids. It’s about the Yankees signing a guy to a $30 million a year salary over several years when his best days were likely behind him.

    • albertmn - Jan 30, 2013 at 9:23 AM

      To your point about Jeter being the last to get one of these deals, Jeter’s deal was only for three years (possibly with an option year). Even if you could argue prior to the deal that it was an overpay, it wasn’t that long of a deal, so not as bad. As it turns out, Jeter has performed well the first couple years of that deal. Even if he didn’t play again, the Yankees likely did fine on that deal. Teams (especially those that earn a lot of money) can withstand overpaying players on a short deal. It is the long term deals (6+ years) that get them in trouble, especially in the eyes of fans and the media.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM

        Even if you could argue prior to the deal that it was an overpay, it wasn’t that long of a deal, so not as bad

        He should probably have worded it that the Yanks shouldn’t give multi-year deals to guys through their age 35+ seasons? Would that work?

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jan 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

        The Jeter deal has worked out so far and that’s good and tou’re rightits not that long. My basic point was from the beginning is the Yankees can avoid weaseling their way out of contracts by not giving out contracts that wont likely give them the results they want.

  3. stoutfiles - Jan 30, 2013 at 6:59 AM

    He’s been bad lately and that’s WITH the cheating. How bad is he going to be when he stops? Gonna be a long 5 years NY…

    • ptfu - Jan 30, 2013 at 10:39 AM

      A-Rod’s been bad only in comparison with his previous lofty standard. In 2012, he hit .272/.353/.430 and earned 2 WAR. That’s not MVP production but it isn’t replacement level either. He’s got a lot further to fall before he’s a liability, production-wise (ignoring public relations and the contract for a moment).

      Injuries and aging are taking a toll on him, as they do on everyone. You can’t blame cheating for A-Rod’s entire decline.

  4. Chris Fiorentino - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:03 AM

    Here’s what I don’t get…why isn’t anybody talking about how Saint Ray Lewis’s alleged use of a banned substance affects HIS hall of fame chances in the NFL? I mean…somebody sees back acne on Piazza…and the greatest hitting catcher in MLB history isn’t voted into the Hall. Yet these weasel reporters in the NFL won’t say a word about Saint Ray-Ray and can only talk about how in five years, he will be voted into the NFL Hall of Fame. What a disgrace.

    • alexo0 - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:38 AM

      The NFL is on the opposite side of the spectrum than MLB, where PED’s, severe head injuries, etc. are generally condoned. As for Ray, the dude is so charismatic and loved that no one will dare speak against him for fear of losing access.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:45 AM

        Normally, I’d agree with you on the access thing…but this is Lewis’s last game and it’s the frigging Super Bowl. Those reporters just have no scrotums.

      • paperlions - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:47 AM

        Actually, it is because the NFL media is not a gaggle of frothing loonies like baseball writers.

        NFL writers actually like both football and football players, and report on PED violations and suspensions (which actually occur quite commonly), but when it is over they let it go.

        Many MLB writers don’t appear to like baseball or baseball players, what they seem to like are the legends of baseball heroes of their youth, resulting in a bunch of hyperbolic petty rantings and the constant need to point out any rumors or history of PED use (despite the complete lack of understanding how and if PED use actually affects baseball performance in general or specific performances).

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:07 AM

        That makes sense…basically the current BBWAA for the most part is probably pissed off that the players from the steroid era cheated their way into beating the sacred records that they held so precious all those years and so this is their way of punishing them…whether they have proof of cheating or not. Good post.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:08 AM

        Or just fear. I’m glad he found God after the murders, but nobody really knows what happened. Him pleading it down only makes the situation more confusing.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:27 AM

        Wasn’t talking about the murders, sabathia…was talking about the allegations he used banned substance that came out yesterday. With his voice on a tape asking how to use the banned substance…only 10 weeks ago!! If that were A-Rod, the MLB reporters heads would have exploded. In the NFL, Saint Ray says “I’m not even going to address those allegations” and the reporters say “OK, Saint Ray…thank you for looking at us and blessing us with your presence”

      • raysfan1 - Jan 30, 2013 at 9:36 AM

        A couple other things to keep in mind when wondering why football writers don’t go into “he will never get my HoF vote” histrionics when a player tests positive:
        1) The football writers don’t elect football HoF inductees; that is done by a selection panel, only a few of which are media members.
        2) The football HoF has no character clause.

    • historiophiliac - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:46 AM

      There’s another blog for that. People aren’t mentioning it here, probably, because it’s not about baseball…and I prefer it that way.

    • American of African Descent - Jan 30, 2013 at 9:49 AM

      It’s because the NFL Hall of Fame isn’t very important in American consciousness.

    • purnellmeagrejr - Jan 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM

      I am glad to be spared what , just a few years ago, promised to be an ugly and inexorable asssault on the careeer home run record. What a relief! WIth my team (The MEts) in the dunmper for the forseeeable futuire things loooked bleak, indeed.

  5. itsacurse - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:21 AM

    “Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice” – Hippocratic Oath

  6. Chris Fiorentino - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:23 AM

    Rosenthal basically says the same thing, but in an entire article…seems strange that people are so easily intent on recommending what sounds to me like insurance fraud.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/alex-rodriguez-new-york-yankees-ped-report-career-exit-strategy-013013

  7. skeleteeth - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:55 AM

    More opinions than people on this planet these days so why even bother giving anything like this a sniff of credence?

  8. sincitybonobo - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    Keep in mind, he owed $30 million in bonuses for tying and passing the career HR totals of Mays, Aaron, Ruth, and Bonds.

    It was part of that ridiculous ’07 deal, when Yankee managment envisoned something akin to Jeter’s pursuit of 3,000 hits- only more intense and celebrated. To say this will be a joyless endeavor and spectacle is an understatement. Will he be cheered in The Bronx for passing Ruth?

    That 2007 deal was malpractice on so many levels, but the Yankees are stuck with it.

    • sincitybonobo - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:00 AM

      “is owed”

  9. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Reality Check. How does this sound: Gio Gonzalez must never play again! Nelson Cruz must never play again. Hell, people are not this riled up against Manny Ramirez, and he actually failed two drug tests.

    Change ARod’s name to anyone else’s, and this becomes a non-story.

  10. heyblueyoustink - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    RAJ, please make Craig happy and trade for this guy. I mean get the Yanks to pay 90% of his contract, but it’ll put Craig in a happy place, so we’d be able to get back to the serious business of talkinbg about Batman, Pie, Cake, and the legacy of ‘Cepts.

    • historiophiliac - Jan 30, 2013 at 9:14 AM

      bread pudding

      • Utley's Hair - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:17 PM

        Rice pudding.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:24 PM

        That’s disgusting! Although tomato pudding is pretty good too…

      • raysfan1 - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:43 PM

        Chocolate pudding cake

    • Utley's Hair - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      CAKE!!!!!!!! Hey, FC, how about a new superhero tandem: Captain Cake and his sidekick Ice Cream Man? Evil nemesis would be PieBaby.

      • Francisco (FC) - Jan 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM

        Totally onboard with that idea.

  11. ss - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    Beyond the fraud aspect of it, Rosenthal and the others pushing this story have no explanation for is why Rodriguez would go along with this plan to end his career. If he was taking PEDs last year to come back from injury, it makes me think he still wants to play, and to play at a high level. Rosenthal closes with this:

    “Better A-Rod should void himself.

    Better for the Yankees, and maybe better for A-Rod, too.”

    Yes, it would be better for the Yankees for the obvious reasons. But how is it better for Rodriguez? What player wants to have his career end because of a report in a paper? What player would go along with that, when they have five years to keep playing and a chance to define his career’s final act on his own terms? I can’t see any way that a player who has been as good as Rodriguez has been for the past two decades would be complicit in insurance fraud because it’s good for his club and isn’t his own best interests. It’s laughable.

  12. Old Gator - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:25 AM

    Raise your hand if you’re getting sick and tired of this entire subject. We’re wasting valuable time and space here that could be much better spent on Scrooge McLoria bashing.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jan 30, 2013 at 8:29 AM

      Or we could debate the merits of trading A-Rod to Miami so the Marlins players can really have something to whine about :D

      • Utley's Hair - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:24 PM

        The way Scrooge is working, the Skanks would have to eat at least 110% of ARod’s salary for the next 10 years.

    • stex52 - Jan 30, 2013 at 9:07 AM

      Or whining in misery over the Astros stinking again this year and having to play DH ball after all decent Houstonians have gone to bed.

      Wait………….. So what about this whole A-Rod thing? I want more!

      • historiophiliac - Jan 30, 2013 at 9:16 AM

        dvr or mlb.com — I mean, you’d have to watch it the next day, but you could watch it when it fit your schedule then.

      • stex52 - Jan 30, 2013 at 10:24 AM

        Not quite so simple. It is also on a cable provider who is failing to cut a deal with most of the local services at present.

        It’s hard for me to pick anything the Astros have done right for a while.

        But I also have difficulties with the whole concept of watching sports events that occurred in the past. They have box scores for that.

      • historiophiliac - Jan 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

        I can understand that. I was just making a suggestion.

      • stex52 - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM

        Useful suggestions always appreciated. I have thought about permanently switching to the Cards also.

      • Utley's Hair - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:43 PM

        Wait…decent Houstonians…? :D

      • stex52 - Jan 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM

        Hey, hey Philly. I may troll you guys during the season but I still love ya :-)

      • Utley's Hair - Jan 30, 2013 at 1:19 PM

        Ed Wade says hello.

      • stex52 - Jan 30, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        Houston says goodbye, Ed. The problems of the Astros were just so deep they overwhelmed him. I never disliked him, but he was honestly in over his head with that organization.

      • Francisco (FC) - Jan 30, 2013 at 4:18 PM

        From my POV Wade’s forte (and ceiling) always seemed to be player development, but not necessarily roster building, and certainly not free agent signings.

      • Utley's Hair - Jan 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM

        “The problems of the Astros were just so deep they overwhelmed him. I never disliked him, but he was honestly in over his head with that organization.”

        This is where I go with an Ed Wade is short joke, right?

        And FC, that just shows he shouldn’t have been a GM.

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