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	<title>Comments on: Curt Schilling on gay players: &#8220;Why the hell would what they do in the bedroom ever matter?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jack Marshall</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody should be surprised at Curt&#039;s comments. He&#039;s smart. Not as smart as he thinks he is,perhaps, but smarter than most in his field and also smarter than most sportswriters, which along with political bias accounts for their relentlessly negative coverage.

He is describing a professional attitude, the same attitude my father, who like most in his era was not especially enlightened about homosexuality, held regarding gay men he fought with in World War II. If they were good soldiers and fighting on the same side, he was happy and proud to have them serve with him. Any other attitude is idiotic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody should be surprised at Curt&#8217;s comments. He&#8217;s smart. Not as smart as he thinks he is,perhaps, but smarter than most in his field and also smarter than most sportswriters, which along with political bias accounts for their relentlessly negative coverage.</p>
<p>He is describing a professional attitude, the same attitude my father, who like most in his era was not especially enlightened about homosexuality, held regarding gay men he fought with in World War II. If they were good soldiers and fighting on the same side, he was happy and proud to have them serve with him. Any other attitude is idiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: IdahoMariner</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kingjoe, I am confused. first, you are disappointed that he said it doesn&#039;t  matter what someone does in the bedroom (a surprisingly non-judgmental stance from schilling, and i for one will take it and be happy for the accepting tone of his comments), because you believe he somehow was saying being gay is only about sex, implying that, for you, being gay sets one apart from straight people in all respects....and then you express disappointment that he &quot;stops short of saying that gay people are no different than anyone else and should not be treated any differently day to day&quot;.  which is it?

i guess i am happy with his comment because, yes, gay people truly are no different from straight people in most of the fundamental, important ways, and should not be treated any differently. saying he doesn&#039;t care what gay people do in the bedroom is just shorthand for him saying that.  it&#039;s twitter.  he doesn&#039;t need to make fine distinctions or extended educational discourse on all the ways that being gay affects one&#039;s life in contrast to all the ways that gay people are no different than straight people.  and frankly, he probably hasn&#039;t given it that much thought.  but his statement was a clear, unequivocal statement of support.

  insisting on someone expressing themselves exactly as you want them to before you can be pleased about or accept a clear statement of support is counter-productive and alienating.  there was nothing equivocal about his statement.  how great was that?   i can&#039;t stand most of what he has said and done off the field....and he totally surprised me with this.   i would have thought he believed the opposite.  cool.  now, moving on to work on changing the attitudes of people who aren&#039;t sure what to think or don&#039;t have any experience with people not like themselves, rather than scaring them off by putting conditions on acceptance of clear support (as opposed to equivocal support or support that comes with its own conditions).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kingjoe, I am confused. first, you are disappointed that he said it doesn&#8217;t  matter what someone does in the bedroom (a surprisingly non-judgmental stance from schilling, and i for one will take it and be happy for the accepting tone of his comments), because you believe he somehow was saying being gay is only about sex, implying that, for you, being gay sets one apart from straight people in all respects&#8230;.and then you express disappointment that he &#8220;stops short of saying that gay people are no different than anyone else and should not be treated any differently day to day&#8221;.  which is it?</p>
<p>i guess i am happy with his comment because, yes, gay people truly are no different from straight people in most of the fundamental, important ways, and should not be treated any differently. saying he doesn&#8217;t care what gay people do in the bedroom is just shorthand for him saying that.  it&#8217;s twitter.  he doesn&#8217;t need to make fine distinctions or extended educational discourse on all the ways that being gay affects one&#8217;s life in contrast to all the ways that gay people are no different than straight people.  and frankly, he probably hasn&#8217;t given it that much thought.  but his statement was a clear, unequivocal statement of support.</p>
<p>  insisting on someone expressing themselves exactly as you want them to before you can be pleased about or accept a clear statement of support is counter-productive and alienating.  there was nothing equivocal about his statement.  how great was that?   i can&#8217;t stand most of what he has said and done off the field&#8230;.and he totally surprised me with this.   i would have thought he believed the opposite.  cool.  now, moving on to work on changing the attitudes of people who aren&#8217;t sure what to think or don&#8217;t have any experience with people not like themselves, rather than scaring them off by putting conditions on acceptance of clear support (as opposed to equivocal support or support that comes with its own conditions).</p>
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		<title>By: barrywhererufrom</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buggieworm or whatever your name is. Your take is something that bemuses me. I have to say my comment as being &#039;Marriage being ordained by God is not my own&#039; I know you being a man of the cloth and such. It actually came from a Monsignor in the Roman Catholic Church on Long Island. Marriage is not ours to define. It&#039;s God who made the institution. I don&#039;t know how such a so called enlightened person like yourself would not know this. I guess when you mix up the secular and the religious you get all messed up. I do not take you as an authority on anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buggieworm or whatever your name is. Your take is something that bemuses me. I have to say my comment as being &#8216;Marriage being ordained by God is not my own&#8217; I know you being a man of the cloth and such. It actually came from a Monsignor in the Roman Catholic Church on Long Island. Marriage is not ours to define. It&#8217;s God who made the institution. I don&#8217;t know how such a so called enlightened person like yourself would not know this. I guess when you mix up the secular and the religious you get all messed up. I do not take you as an authority on anything.</p>
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		<title>By: mazblast</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 05:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI--Larry Craig is from Idaho, not Utah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI&#8211;Larry Craig is from Idaho, not Utah.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 16:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course it will be different then -- the season will have started.  I know, the off-season is a merciless witch.  We all hate it.  Some of us drink to get through it.  Some of us resort to watching football.  It puts some of us in the Worst (Mental) Shape of Our Lives.  But, the season is nigh.  Hang in there.  It&#039;ll be better soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it will be different then &#8212; the season will have started.  I know, the off-season is a merciless witch.  We all hate it.  Some of us drink to get through it.  Some of us resort to watching football.  It puts some of us in the Worst (Mental) Shape of Our Lives.  But, the season is nigh.  Hang in there.  It&#8217;ll be better soon.</p>
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		<title>By: jasncondit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jimmeejohnson - Let me see you assume all people who call themselves Christians to be Christians. Just because a person respectfully disagrees with you, you lump them in those who just want to call names like you are doing.  Well to use your argument about Obama I can retort too.  

How does it feel that no matter how many people on this earth you get to agree with you there is a God you will stand before and then will bow and out of your mouth will acknowledge how wrong you were and that He is Lord. You can pretend all you want but deep down in your soul you know who He is and reject Him still. Even the Demons know Him and they don&#039;t put their heads in the sand.  Enjoy your little season but even though you are so filled with Hate, I hope you repent before you die because I would not wish Hell on anyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimmeejohnson &#8211; Let me see you assume all people who call themselves Christians to be Christians. Just because a person respectfully disagrees with you, you lump them in those who just want to call names like you are doing.  Well to use your argument about Obama I can retort too.  </p>
<p>How does it feel that no matter how many people on this earth you get to agree with you there is a God you will stand before and then will bow and out of your mouth will acknowledge how wrong you were and that He is Lord. You can pretend all you want but deep down in your soul you know who He is and reject Him still. Even the Demons know Him and they don&#8217;t put their heads in the sand.  Enjoy your little season but even though you are so filled with Hate, I hope you repent before you die because I would not wish Hell on anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s zero reason to respect Culliver&#039;s opinion.  People need to learn the difference between respecting someone&#039;s right TO and opinion and respecting the actual opinion itself.  I&#039;ll defend an individual&#039;s right to free speech, but I won&#039;t necessarily defend what comes out when they exercise it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s zero reason to respect Culliver&#8217;s opinion.  People need to learn the difference between respecting someone&#8217;s right TO and opinion and respecting the actual opinion itself.  I&#8217;ll defend an individual&#8217;s right to free speech, but I won&#8217;t necessarily defend what comes out when they exercise it.</p>
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		<title>By: bigdicktater</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigdicktater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the photo was a hilarious choice. Lighten up people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the photo was a hilarious choice. Lighten up people.</p>
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		<title>By: wgray981</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wgray981]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 21:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THIS IS NOT SPORTS NEWS. I am starting a boycott on this sports blog starting NOW! I am sick of the unprofessional journalism, and pointless stories that have nothing to do with sports. I will check back in a few months to see if things have improved. If not, I won&#039;t return again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS NOT SPORTS NEWS. I am starting a boycott on this sports blog starting NOW! I am sick of the unprofessional journalism, and pointless stories that have nothing to do with sports. I will check back in a few months to see if things have improved. If not, I won&#8217;t return again.</p>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimeejohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evangelical right wing NUTS: how does it feel to have lost a Presidential election twice in a row to an African-American LIBERAL?  Two words: beat it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evangelical right wing NUTS: how does it feel to have lost a Presidential election twice in a row to an African-American LIBERAL?  Two words: beat it!</p>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimeejohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evangelical right wing nuts: the embodiment of stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evangelical right wing nuts: the embodiment of stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimeejohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fact: you are an idiot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact: you are an idiot!</p>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimeejohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ask that notorious Republican hypocrite Larry Craig of Utah: he was caught playing footsie in the bathroom.  Just another right wing NUT hiding behind an invisible, make-believe fallacy known as religion, i.e., reassurance for the weak minded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask that notorious Republican hypocrite Larry Craig of Utah: he was caught playing footsie in the bathroom.  Just another right wing NUT hiding behind an invisible, make-believe fallacy known as religion, i.e., reassurance for the weak minded.</p>
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		<title>By: kingjoe1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[really? Well I suspect you must have pulled this information from someone else&#039;s biography.  You seem to express that gay is something to hide. Gay people are gay, but too many non-gay people think being is just about sex. It is who you are, not just about what you do in the bedroom. Shilling seems to express that what gay people do behind closed doors is of no concern of his; and he is right. However, he stopped short of saying that gay people are no different than anyone else and should not be treated any differently day-to-day. It isnt just about sex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really? Well I suspect you must have pulled this information from someone else&#8217;s biography.  You seem to express that gay is something to hide. Gay people are gay, but too many non-gay people think being is just about sex. It is who you are, not just about what you do in the bedroom. Shilling seems to express that what gay people do behind closed doors is of no concern of his; and he is right. However, he stopped short of saying that gay people are no different than anyone else and should not be treated any differently day-to-day. It isnt just about sex.</p>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimeejohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FACTS?  Right wing NUTS don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FACTS?  Right wing NUTS don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; facts.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I read that differently than you did.  It&#039;s too bad kingjoe didn&#039;t clarify further.  Now, I&#039;m unclear on what s/he said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I read that differently than you did.  It&#8217;s too bad kingjoe didn&#8217;t clarify further.  Now, I&#8217;m unclear on what s/he said.</p>
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		<title>By: buggieowens</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buggieowens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yikes...I missed this one. Let me fix this one for you. Some of the founders were certainly as Christian as you suggest. However, to make the blanket claim that the Founders &quot;considered Jesus Christ to be their lord,&quot; is only true of SOME of the founders and certainly not the most well-known of the Founders. You clearly don&#039;t seem to understand what Deism was, which was a philosophy shared in part by Washington, Jefferson, Franklin. To save you the trip to Wikipedia, Deism is the belief in a creator but not in the divinity of Jesus Christ. So...if you claimed that the Founders believed in God....I&#039;d back your claim up. But you are simply wrong. And to slap down the name of some non-peer reviewed PhD is not really impressive to the probably 20 or more HBT posters who are also PhDs. You want to convince me...use the primary documents...like this tidbit from G. Washington to the first Jewish synagogue:

&quot;The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.

It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my Administration, and fervent wishes for my felicity. May the children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes&#8230;I missed this one. Let me fix this one for you. Some of the founders were certainly as Christian as you suggest. However, to make the blanket claim that the Founders &#8220;considered Jesus Christ to be their lord,&#8221; is only true of SOME of the founders and certainly not the most well-known of the Founders. You clearly don&#8217;t seem to understand what Deism was, which was a philosophy shared in part by Washington, Jefferson, Franklin. To save you the trip to Wikipedia, Deism is the belief in a creator but not in the divinity of Jesus Christ. So&#8230;if you claimed that the Founders believed in God&#8230;.I&#8217;d back your claim up. But you are simply wrong. And to slap down the name of some non-peer reviewed PhD is not really impressive to the probably 20 or more HBT posters who are also PhDs. You want to convince me&#8230;use the primary documents&#8230;like this tidbit from G. Washington to the first Jewish synagogue:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.</p>
<p>It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my Administration, and fervent wishes for my felicity. May the children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy.</p>
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		<title>By: aceinthehole12</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah I guess. Like I said, I don&#039;t agree with him or anyone else on the matter. But I&#039;m not suddenly &quot;Anti-Culliver&quot; because of it...I understand that people will have different opinions with me on this and politics etc. Hell I&#039;ve had people look me dead in the face and tell me they don&#039;t like me cause I&#039;m black. I just phase them out because I don&#039;t let ignorance bring me down. Fining him and suspended him will look good but like Ozzie talking about Castro what good will it really do ? His opinion won&#039;t change until he&#039;s around gays. Hopefully the Niners make him do some LGBT related things in the bay in the offseason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I guess. Like I said, I don&#8217;t agree with him or anyone else on the matter. But I&#8217;m not suddenly &#8220;Anti-Culliver&#8221; because of it&#8230;I understand that people will have different opinions with me on this and politics etc. Hell I&#8217;ve had people look me dead in the face and tell me they don&#8217;t like me cause I&#8217;m black. I just phase them out because I don&#8217;t let ignorance bring me down. Fining him and suspended him will look good but like Ozzie talking about Castro what good will it really do ? His opinion won&#8217;t change until he&#8217;s around gays. Hopefully the Niners make him do some LGBT related things in the bay in the offseason.</p>
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		<title>By: buggieowens</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good people of the Hopi Pueblo, Old Oriabi, would like to remind Americans that before Jamestown, before St. Augustine, before Sante Fe,  even before the Apache/Navajo migrations into the Southwest, their town existed and still does (with a slight relocation) making it the oldest continually settlement (although certainly not a city) in what is now the United States. And yes, New Mexico was not part of the U.S. until after the end of Mex-Am War (or arguably after the Kearney takeover of Santa Fe in 1845), but Juan De Onate was the first European governor of a future American State in 1598. Although the history of the southwest understandably gets overlooked in the traditional narrative, Hispanics/Indian contributions (Po&#039;pay anyone?) is just as crucial to understanding how we came to be the country we are today as the English colonists. OK...I&#039;ll stop now...I promise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good people of the Hopi Pueblo, Old Oriabi, would like to remind Americans that before Jamestown, before St. Augustine, before Sante Fe,  even before the Apache/Navajo migrations into the Southwest, their town existed and still does (with a slight relocation) making it the oldest continually settlement (although certainly not a city) in what is now the United States. And yes, New Mexico was not part of the U.S. until after the end of Mex-Am War (or arguably after the Kearney takeover of Santa Fe in 1845), but Juan De Onate was the first European governor of a future American State in 1598. Although the history of the southwest understandably gets overlooked in the traditional narrative, Hispanics/Indian contributions (Po&#8217;pay anyone?) is just as crucial to understanding how we came to be the country we are today as the English colonists. OK&#8230;I&#8217;ll stop now&#8230;I promise.</p>
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		<title>By: buggieowens</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again...David Barton is not a reliable source of information. And you have fundamental misunderstanding of the strength of Christianity in the Southern Colonies. Almost all colonists would claim they were Christians (not counting the small number of Jews who created the first (or one of the first) synagogues in Newport in 1790...or even the very few Muslims who were discussed by the Founders). However, many of the same colonists (at least a third were hardcore in astrology) were also quite apathetic about attending church, especially in the South where due to population densities and the distance between plantations, churches were often too distant to travel to on a regular basis. I bet since you are retired, you have not been privy to most recent scholarship over last two decades or so. Colonial history is much more varied, nuanced, and complex than you perhaps remember.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again&#8230;David Barton is not a reliable source of information. And you have fundamental misunderstanding of the strength of Christianity in the Southern Colonies. Almost all colonists would claim they were Christians (not counting the small number of Jews who created the first (or one of the first) synagogues in Newport in 1790&#8230;or even the very few Muslims who were discussed by the Founders). However, many of the same colonists (at least a third were hardcore in astrology) were also quite apathetic about attending church, especially in the South where due to population densities and the distance between plantations, churches were often too distant to travel to on a regular basis. I bet since you are retired, you have not been privy to most recent scholarship over last two decades or so. Colonial history is much more varied, nuanced, and complex than you perhaps remember.</p>
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		<title>By: aceinthehole12</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Respect them both. But just because Schilling and I have similar views on this doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m suddenly a fan; I&#039;m also not suddenly anti-Culliver either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respect them both. But just because Schilling and I have similar views on this doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m suddenly a fan; I&#8217;m also not suddenly anti-Culliver either.</p>
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		<title>By: buggieowens</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry.....you referring to the same TJ that personally cut out all the supernatural aspects of the Bible? Plus you completely misinterpret the goal behind the his 1776 Vir of Rel. Fr. Even though I disagree on everything baseball with Historio (being the Red Sox fan that I am), as a history professor I can tell you that HP (and Cur and others) knows the history and you don&#039;t. You can have your own opinion but you can&#039;t have your own facts. And besides, since Marriage is NOT in the Constitution, it is decision left up to the states.Since I am a registered minister in the Church of the Latter-Day Dude (seriously), I can officiate marriages in almost all parts of the country. Why? Because the Founders were smart enough to include both the Freedom of Religion and Freedom from Religion in the 1st Amendment and to leave some decisions to the states. So even from the beginning, your argument was flawed. Had you argued that State Constitutions had religious connections, you would have had a point. But since you lack a basic knowledge of history and civics, your argument and evidence were lacking. Now  it&#039;s time for me to go back to correcting the historical fallacies of the people who actually paid for an education.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry&#8230;..you referring to the same TJ that personally cut out all the supernatural aspects of the Bible? Plus you completely misinterpret the goal behind the his 1776 Vir of Rel. Fr. Even though I disagree on everything baseball with Historio (being the Red Sox fan that I am), as a history professor I can tell you that HP (and Cur and others) knows the history and you don&#8217;t. You can have your own opinion but you can&#8217;t have your own facts. And besides, since Marriage is NOT in the Constitution, it is decision left up to the states.Since I am a registered minister in the Church of the Latter-Day Dude (seriously), I can officiate marriages in almost all parts of the country. Why? Because the Founders were smart enough to include both the Freedom of Religion and Freedom from Religion in the 1st Amendment and to leave some decisions to the states. So even from the beginning, your argument was flawed. Had you argued that State Constitutions had religious connections, you would have had a point. But since you lack a basic knowledge of history and civics, your argument and evidence were lacking. Now  it&#8217;s time for me to go back to correcting the historical fallacies of the people who actually paid for an education.</p>
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		<title>By: critter69</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 11:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;badintent&#039;?

“military-industrial lobby” ??

Try &quot;military-industrial complex&quot; and you might be a lot closer to what both Eisenhower and Goldwater actually stated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;badintent&#8217;?</p>
<p>“military-industrial lobby” ??</p>
<p>Try &#8220;military-industrial complex&#8221; and you might be a lot closer to what both Eisenhower and Goldwater actually stated.</p>
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		<title>By: critter69</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 11:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I worked with some people for almost 20 years who didn&#039;t know I was gay until my partner of more than 20 years was diangosed with lung cancer, and then died just over six months later.

And some of them were bibble thumping Xians who had nothing but bad things to say about the GLBT community until they found out I was gay.  They might still have said bad things about the GLBT community, but I didn&#039;t hear, or hear of, them making such comments.  I knew enough people in the agency who would have told me if the bibble thumpers had made such comments, so I can only presume they might have learned something.

Granted, not on a GAME field or GAME field lockerroom, but in real, actual life among real, actual, non-pampered people.

So, &#039;kingjoe1&#039;, yes there is still much need for education, and the need is on YOUR part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked with some people for almost 20 years who didn&#8217;t know I was gay until my partner of more than 20 years was diangosed with lung cancer, and then died just over six months later.</p>
<p>And some of them were bibble thumping Xians who had nothing but bad things to say about the GLBT community until they found out I was gay.  They might still have said bad things about the GLBT community, but I didn&#8217;t hear, or hear of, them making such comments.  I knew enough people in the agency who would have told me if the bibble thumpers had made such comments, so I can only presume they might have learned something.</p>
<p>Granted, not on a GAME field or GAME field lockerroom, but in real, actual life among real, actual, non-pampered people.</p>
<p>So, &#8216;kingjoe1&#8242;, yes there is still much need for education, and the need is on YOUR part.</p>
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		<title>By: Fink</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait...what? He doesn&#039;t care who is gay, and is willing to borrow tax payer $$ to fund his private venture.... what is more left wing than that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230;what? He doesn&#8217;t care who is gay, and is willing to borrow tax payer $$ to fund his private venture&#8230;. what is more left wing than that?</p>
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		<title>By: dremmel69</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 06:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, who chooses the photos that accompany the posts?  A post about sexual tolerance in sports culture is led with a photo that portrays Curt Schilling in a &quot;feminine&quot; posture.  

Is this a serious topic or junior high school?  Is the lampooning of some athletes acceptable because they may be heterosexual?  Is heterosexuality an inferior lifestyle choice to homosexuality?  Are all heterosexuals assumed to be homophobic?  

There is no discourse on this subject in American culture any longer.  A growing number in our society confront ugly anti-gay sentiment (&quot;you must be queer&quot;) and respond with ugly anti-straight sentiment (&quot;you must be homophobic&quot;).  

And please don&#039;t bother to suggest that the Curt Schilling photo chosen for the post was random in any way.  The only thing worse than hypocritical rhetoric is insult to the intelligence of your audience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, who chooses the photos that accompany the posts?  A post about sexual tolerance in sports culture is led with a photo that portrays Curt Schilling in a &#8220;feminine&#8221; posture.  </p>
<p>Is this a serious topic or junior high school?  Is the lampooning of some athletes acceptable because they may be heterosexual?  Is heterosexuality an inferior lifestyle choice to homosexuality?  Are all heterosexuals assumed to be homophobic?  </p>
<p>There is no discourse on this subject in American culture any longer.  A growing number in our society confront ugly anti-gay sentiment (&#8220;you must be queer&#8221;) and respond with ugly anti-straight sentiment (&#8220;you must be homophobic&#8221;).  </p>
<p>And please don&#8217;t bother to suggest that the Curt Schilling photo chosen for the post was random in any way.  The only thing worse than hypocritical rhetoric is insult to the intelligence of your audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect that Curt is a social liberal with conservative ideals.  That is not unusual at all.  I don&#039;t agree with his conservative (and apparently hypocritical view, as he was quite willing to take tax payer dollars for his private venture), but it doesn&#039;t negate his opinion on this issue.  It is unfortunate that our current political climate is so polar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that Curt is a social liberal with conservative ideals.  That is not unusual at all.  I don&#8217;t agree with his conservative (and apparently hypocritical view, as he was quite willing to take tax payer dollars for his private venture), but it doesn&#8217;t negate his opinion on this issue.  It is unfortunate that our current political climate is so polar.</p>
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		<title>By: yousuxxors</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[go read quotes from jefferson Washington franklin and adams about god/religion and tell me they are christians talking about jesus. all religions are let into the free masons. i love how the right twist history to fit their &quot;facts&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go read quotes from jefferson Washington franklin and adams about god/religion and tell me they are christians talking about jesus. all religions are let into the free masons. i love how the right twist history to fit their &#8220;facts&#8221;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 04:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Went to the ABC store tonight, the Basel was running around $42, is it worth it at that price?]]></description>
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		<title>By: badintent</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 04:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry Goldwater was a moderate in the Republican Party which at the time was moving slowly to the right/middle of the country. He just missed it by 4 years. Nixon got the benefit of it. Barry  and Ike both warned against the &quot;military-industrial lobby&quot; as a danger  to our democratic system. Now the Republican Party has been hijacked by the Middle Armerican Bible Thumpers and they have forced folks like me out.Rafe Nader &quot;A nation turns it lonely eyes to you &quot; coco ca choo. Cue the Paul Simon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Goldwater was a moderate in the Republican Party which at the time was moving slowly to the right/middle of the country. He just missed it by 4 years. Nixon got the benefit of it. Barry  and Ike both warned against the &#8220;military-industrial lobby&#8221; as a danger  to our democratic system. Now the Republican Party has been hijacked by the Middle Armerican Bible Thumpers and they have forced folks like me out.Rafe Nader &#8220;A nation turns it lonely eyes to you &#8221; coco ca choo. Cue the Paul Simon</p>
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