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	<title>Comments on: Jesus Montero linked to Biogenesis</title>
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		<title>By: Darkoestrada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darkoestrada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are the chances those hall of fame voters who wouldn&#039;t vote for Piazza, because they thought they could tell he took steroids, would have also been able to point out danny valencia and francisco cervelli as users?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the chances those hall of fame voters who wouldn&#8217;t vote for Piazza, because they thought they could tell he took steroids, would have also been able to point out danny valencia and francisco cervelli as users?</p>
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		<title>By: rpb1234</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rpb1234]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best thing about the team is Vin Scully]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best thing about the team is Vin Scully</p>
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		<title>By: misterchainbluelightning</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437790</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[misterchainbluelightning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the M&#039;s knew about Pineda and the Yanks knew about Montero]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the M&#8217;s knew about Pineda and the Yanks knew about Montero</p>
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		<title>By: denny65</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437663</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[denny65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So apparently Mariners&#039; GM Jack Z has &quot;no comment&quot; when asked how the John Jaso trade is working out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So apparently Mariners&#8217; GM Jack Z has &#8220;no comment&#8221; when asked how the John Jaso trade is working out.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437514</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And anyway, of &lt;i&gt;course&lt;/i&gt; Montero is &quot;linked&quot; to biogenesis. That&#039;s how all of us who aren&#039;t totally synthetic got here in the first place. Only those bloggers who are in fact randomly formed artificial intelligences, nucleated around a core of baseball data in the matrix, and thereby completely inorganic, would not be &quot;linked&quot; to biogenesis. 

Get &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt;, AI&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And anyway, of <i>course</i> Montero is &#8220;linked&#8221; to biogenesis. That&#8217;s how all of us who aren&#8217;t totally synthetic got here in the first place. Only those bloggers who are in fact randomly formed artificial intelligences, nucleated around a core of baseball data in the matrix, and thereby completely inorganic, would not be &#8220;linked&#8221; to biogenesis. </p>
<p>Get <i>real</i>, AI&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesgameday</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesgameday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just don&#039;t care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: DelawarePhilliesFan</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DelawarePhilliesFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People first have to check Baseball Refernce to figure out who he is :)

In all seriousness though, that is the way it always goes, people follow the winners. Did anybody micro-disect the in&#039;s and out&#039;s of David Bell coming to the Phillies in 2003? But Michael Young comes here in 2013 - and whoa!! No shortage of opinions at all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People first have to check Baseball Refernce to figure out who he is <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In all seriousness though, that is the way it always goes, people follow the winners. Did anybody micro-disect the in&#8217;s and out&#8217;s of David Bell coming to the Phillies in 2003? But Michael Young comes here in 2013 &#8211; and whoa!! No shortage of opinions at all!</p>
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		<title>By: DelawarePhilliesFan</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DelawarePhilliesFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that guilt by association is a dangerous thing - but on the other hand, I think innocence by &quot;possibilities&quot; is a little silly.

If I am any of those players named, and I had a legitimate reason for being there, I would scream from the rooftops why I picked Bosch, I would scramble to get records of dates and reasons for visits, I wold do every and anythign to show I was clean. I realize some guyys may be doing just that. But if we are sitting here 2 months from now, and some of these guys still have nothing beyond &quot;This is all an innocent misunderstanding&quot;, then I am going to be suspicious of that player.

One could argue that if you are innocent, it is unfair to have to prove your innocence. And that is probably true. But Bosch has been arrested, so these players need to get their story out - if in fact they are innocent]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that guilt by association is a dangerous thing &#8211; but on the other hand, I think innocence by &#8220;possibilities&#8221; is a little silly.</p>
<p>If I am any of those players named, and I had a legitimate reason for being there, I would scream from the rooftops why I picked Bosch, I would scramble to get records of dates and reasons for visits, I wold do every and anythign to show I was clean. I realize some guyys may be doing just that. But if we are sitting here 2 months from now, and some of these guys still have nothing beyond &#8220;This is all an innocent misunderstanding&#8221;, then I am going to be suspicious of that player.</p>
<p>One could argue that if you are innocent, it is unfair to have to prove your innocence. And that is probably true. But Bosch has been arrested, so these players need to get their story out &#8211; if in fact they are innocent</p>
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		<title>By: uyf1950</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437443</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uyf1950]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this were Salem, MA. I would swear all these rumors and innuendos were a WITCH HUNT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this were Salem, MA. I would swear all these rumors and innuendos were a WITCH HUNT.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason @ IIATMS</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason @ IIATMS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a GIANT &quot;you&#039;re doing it wrong&quot; joke waiting to happen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a GIANT &#8220;you&#8217;re doing it wrong&#8221; joke waiting to happen!</p>
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		<title>By: 2077james</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2077james]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear they&#039;re also a legitimate team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear they&#8217;re also a legitimate team.</p>
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		<title>By: nogoodtomedead</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nogoodtomedead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aside from Kershaw. Great pitcher- great guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from Kershaw. Great pitcher- great guy.</p>
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		<title>By: nogoodtomedead</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nogoodtomedead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re still going to be a tremendously over-paid team of soulless mercenary players who end up a spectacular failure- abet one that is broadcast to millions of television viewers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re still going to be a tremendously over-paid team of soulless mercenary players who end up a spectacular failure- abet one that is broadcast to millions of television viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437423</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[University of Macondo football players would never go near a clinic with a name like &quot;Biogenesis.&quot; Five syllables? Fat chance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University of Macondo football players would never go near a clinic with a name like &#8220;Biogenesis.&#8221; Five syllables? Fat chance.</p>
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		<title>By: phillyphreak</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phillyphreak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I&#039;m just checking here. You have to be a really good player for people to care that you are linked to (or are alleged to take, or take) PEDs right? Where&#039;s the Montero outrage?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;m just checking here. You have to be a really good player for people to care that you are linked to (or are alleged to take, or take) PEDs right? Where&#8217;s the Montero outrage?</p>
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		<title>By: bubbalynch</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bubbalynch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And...The Los Angeles Dodgers are looking like the only legitament team out there! THINK BLUE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And&#8230;The Los Angeles Dodgers are looking like the only legitament team out there! THINK BLUE</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need a Miami alumnus, who was a teammate of Braun&#039;s there and is an All-Star. . . Chris Perez.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a Miami alumnus, who was a teammate of Braun&#8217;s there and is an All-Star. . . Chris Perez.</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco (FC)</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francisco (FC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even that doesn&#039;t help. See: J.C. Romero.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even that doesn&#8217;t help. See: J.C. Romero.</p>
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		<title>By: nolasoxfan2012</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nolasoxfan2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If, as you suggest, some players wanted to find out if they were taking something legal or not, all they had to  do was call MLB.  They maintain a complete list of things you can and cannot take. There&#039;s no reason to seek out a non-certified doctor at a shady &quot;anti-aging&quot; clinic for this reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If, as you suggest, some players wanted to find out if they were taking something legal or not, all they had to  do was call MLB.  They maintain a complete list of things you can and cannot take. There&#8217;s no reason to seek out a non-certified doctor at a shady &#8220;anti-aging&#8221; clinic for this reason.</p>
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		<title>By: thegreatstoneface</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegreatstoneface]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...wouldn&#039;t it be weird, if *some* folks actually were using biogenesis as a consultant.  you know, making sure of what they were taking, making sure it was legal.

i mean, we&#039;ve had guys suspended for taking something OTC that triggered a positive result.  you&#039;d think you might want to...try...to make sure what you&#039;re taking is okay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t it be weird, if *some* folks actually were using biogenesis as a consultant.  you know, making sure of what they were taking, making sure it was legal.</p>
<p>i mean, we&#8217;ve had guys suspended for taking something OTC that triggered a positive result.  you&#8217;d think you might want to&#8230;try&#8230;to make sure what you&#8217;re taking is okay.</p>
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		<title>By: chill1184</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chill1184]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So should get a pool going on whos the next player to be named?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So should get a pool going on whos the next player to be named?</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/jesus-montero-linked-to-biogenesis/comment-page-1/#comment-437358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See Tom Verducci on SI.com. A common link to many of the players named is the University of Miami which is across the street from the clinic. The stadium for the University is named after Arod. Several of the names on the client list played baseball for the University of Miami. Do not know if any football players were clients. There is no indication that most of the players actually named received peds. It is quite possible that they visited the clinic for non PED reasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Tom Verducci on SI.com. A common link to many of the players named is the University of Miami which is across the street from the clinic. The stadium for the University is named after Arod. Several of the names on the client list played baseball for the University of Miami. Do not know if any football players were clients. There is no indication that most of the players actually named received peds. It is quite possible that they visited the clinic for non PED reasons.</p>
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