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Curt Schilling says Red Sox officials encouraged him to use PEDs in 2008

Feb 7, 2013, 11:00 AM EDT

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This seems pretty huge.

Curt Schilling was on Colin Cowherd’s show yesterday and said that Red Sox officials suggested that he use PEDs when his career was ending in 2008 due to a shoulder injury:

Asked for more details, Schilling said the conversation occurred in the clubhouse and involved “former members of the organization — they’re no longer there. It was an incredibly uncomfortable conversation. Because it came up in the midst of a group of people. The other people weren’t in the conversation but they could clearly hear the conversation. And it was suggested to me that at my age and in my situation, why not? What did I have to lose? Because if I wasn’t going to get healthy, it didn’t matter. And if I did get healthy, great.

The fact that he and the Red Sox differed on the sort of treatment he received back in 2008 was well-reported at the time, but no one to my knowledge ever talked about this sort of thing.  And, it’s worth noting, Schilling has been known to engage in hyperbole in the past.

That said, this is quite an accusation.  It seems to me that such an accusation is every bit as worthy of investigation by MLB as the Miami New Times story.  Especially if the people he’s referring to still have jobs in Major League Baseball.

  1. vallewho - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    yeah, I want names!

    • vanmorrissey - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:59 AM

      Yeah. Theo? Terry? No longer there but still in MLB. He ‘owes’ (ha ha) it to MLB to discuss the names if those folks are still in MLB. Otherwise just another Schilling statement meant to draw attention to himself while saying nothing.

    • fanofevilempire - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      Oh yeah, buy the book buddy.
      I guess Canseco is not the only douche.

    • mikecubbie69 - Feb 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM

      Yes, if you cant name names, why bring it up? It opens the door to speculation which serves no real purpose.

  2. phillyphan93 - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Boom! Schilling droppin bombs!

  3. yahmule - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Francona is like, “Hey, I’m trying to sell some books over here.”

  4. deathmonkey41 - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    I don’t believe it. I think if they were speaking within a group of people, they would have spoken in code. Instead of saying “PEDs”, they would have said something like, “Dominican Milkshake”.

    • alang3131982 - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM

      Merloni tells of PED advice from doctor–Former player recalls meeting detailing benefits of using: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090511&content_id=4673748

    • heyblueyoustink - Feb 7, 2013 at 1:50 PM

      Very funny, but on the other side, aside from the ower as far as we know, the Red Sox in recent years have show themselves to be a bit sketchy at best, no?

  5. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    It’s hard for me to take anything Schilling says seriously but this is probably worth looking in to. Why would he make that accusation unless there’s something to it? If he’s making things up his reputation would just take (another) needless hit.

    • mskost63 - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM

      WHAT REPUTATION??? Schilling is a PARIAH – I’m surprised that people are still calling him to do interviews!!! He should put all of his energy into his legal issues, and stay out of baseball in every way possible! Sorry, but since he left, he has had NOTHING good to say, and has had NOTHING positive in his life… oh wait – there was those few months he rode around on John McCain’s bus!!!

      • andrewproughcfe - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM

        “former members of the organization — they’re no longer there” – not hard to figure out. I doubt that he was talking about Man-Ram and Youk. Sounds more like “management”, and there’s two obvious names who are no longer there…

  6. greymares - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    even if this is true, why bring it up now. just go away.

  7. shawndc04 - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Curt’s comment is registering high on my BSometer. As someone who appeared before Congress and purportedly takes a hard line against steroids and other PEDs, why is he just now making this claim? It seems to me that Schill just wants to remain in the limelight.

  8. jameswestphal - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Got to love Mr. Tea party who gets a sweetheart government loan, defaults on it, and still blabs his mouth like a fat Skip Bayless. Great example of how money doesn’t equal class.

  9. cur68 - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    The controversy that won’t go away. sigh

  10. datdangdrewdundunituhgin - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    for this to have any legs for investigation, he’d have to out names. is craig saying that schilling should drop dimes? because that seems inconsistent with his previous stance on the miami paper.

    • Craig Calcaterra - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:34 AM

      I’m saying that MLB should ask Schilling who it was and that those people should be questioned. Schilling can choose to comply or not.

      The league asking a former player to talk about team employees is a very different thing than the league asking a newspaper to hand over its information.

      • Jack Marshall - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM

        Exactly. “Drop dimes”…give me a break. If Schilling wants to expose PED use in baseball, then he’s obligated to speak up and name names. It’s not dishonorable; it’s the right thing to do. I would add “obviously, but apparently not.

      • deadeyedesign23 - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:48 AM

        What’s the difference? Or is this a case of well if you’re going to do one you should do the other, but you feel that neither is ethical?

  11. rjostewart - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    The way Schilling phrases it makes me wonder if the person was half-joking.

  12. Kevin Gillman - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    I get the feeling Schilling is like Jose Canseco, pretty soon he will get blackballed from Baseball too.

    • jwbiii - Feb 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM

      For what kind of baseball job would you hire him?
      ◊ Color man/analyst? That would be a disaster. He would babble incessantly.
      ◊ A Special Assistant to. . . type position? Those jobs generally have public speaking components. Would you want Schilling to make an after dinner speech at a fundraiser for, say, The Jimmy Fund? It might be fun in a train wreck kind of way if you were attending such an event, but he would likely be an embarrassment to the organization.
      ◊ Minor league pitching coach/roving instructor? Maybe he’d be good at this, maybe not. The pay is lousy and you’re away from your family for half of the year, unless it’s with the Lowell Spinners or something. DelawarePhilliesFan points out below that he was not well liked in the clubhouse which works against him.

      Canseco has been getting regular work as an Indy league player/manager/coach. Presumably he is just there as a draw; the Worcester Tornadoes need all the help they can get as they draw about 1,200 per game. He signed a contract with a Mexican League team last off-season, but didn’t make it through spring training. The rumor was that he refused a drug test and walked away. I find it entirely plausible that Canseco didn’t know that the LMB tests and that he wouldn’t pass.

      • Kevin Gillman - Feb 7, 2013 at 1:54 PM

        If Bobby V can do commentary for one season, Curt can do the same thing. Sunday Night Baseball might be a must-see show.

  13. chacochicken - Feb 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Do grounds keepers count as “members of the organization”?

  14. digbysellers - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    So sick of this guy anymore…he’s gotta say something outlandish to take people’s minds of the fact that he ruined a ton of peoples lives with his tomfooligans up in New Hampshire.

  15. DelawarePhilliesFan - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Transalation:

    PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!

    20 years ago, I could not understand why everyone in the clubhouse could not stand him. Boy, has it ever become obvious why in the years since

  16. wolfmagic2012 - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Not impressed with this ML A hole, but he makes the valid point thqat MLB is up to its eyeballs in guilt as far as turning a blind eye. Wink, nod, etc…. This is why going after only a couple of big names when it was rampant throughout the entire League is pure and complete b ull sh!t. The MLB drew a bright line of banning PEDs, and it is only after that bright line that they should have gone after ANYONE. Pure hypocrisy from a League that dishonored itself and its credibility in its rush to not look hypocritical.

  17. wolfmagic2012 - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Oh and if you really want to avoid hypocrisy, NEVER allow those do-nothing A holes in Congress to have anything to do with BB.

  18. djpostl - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Well hello….seriously though, that is quite an accusation. This could be fixin’ to get ugly. It’ll be amazing how fast he goes from “cult hero rockin’ the bloody sock” to tossed under the bus because he was “never really liked here anyways”. Boston fans can devour their alleged beloved icons faster than any species on Earth.

  19. bsbiz - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Curious how when it’s a player being accused, the Hammer of Righteous Indignation falls squarely on the head of the player.

    When someone in the organization is accused of suggesting a player take PEDs, the player is a blowhard who should be grateful he got the opportunity to play.

  20. miker76868 - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    I am absolutely certain that it was Lance Armstrong that said he had to do it!

  21. Jack Marshall - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    deadeyedesign23: The difference is that journalists are ethically obligated to protect sources by their professional standards and codes. There is no such code for “ex-ballplayers who were pressured to cheat by club execs.” In fact, Schilling’s obligation is the opposite.

  22. ken1lutheran - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    There may be a lot less to this than meets the eye. There is a legitimate use of steroids to repair damaged tissues. It may be that someone said to him, “Look, you’re not pitching again, and now that you’re no longer going to be worried about baseball screening, you can get that arm fixed up by getting a prescription for steroids.”

  23. giantschamps - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Yankee fan here. Curt should die of gonnorea and rot in hell. Dude just can’t shut up and come to grips he is not relevent anymore.

    • fanofevilempire - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

      maybe he has Gonnorea of the mouth.

      • mskost63 - Feb 7, 2013 at 2:05 PM

        NO- he has a SEVERE case of DIARRHEA of the MOUTH….
        He just keeps spewing SH#T!!!!

  24. kingjoe1 - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Okay Curt you seem so believable, not a desperate man, broke and no longer relevant. Hey Rhode Island, maybe you can provide this dude with 50 million or so; no use wasting the money the poor, roads or schools, guy needs video games.

  25. dowhatifeellike - Feb 7, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Complete misunderstanding on Schilling’s part – they were just suggesting some beer and fried chicken.

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