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	<title>Comments on: Mariners wager their future on Felix Hernandez&#8217;s right arm</title>
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		<title>By: titlowtales</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yankeepunk3000: &quot;Felix signed a contract in 2010, that included the following: &quot;he will receive a $3.5 million signing bonus and salaries of $6.5 million this season (2010), $10 million in 2011, $18.5 million in 2012, $19.5 million in 2013 and $20 million in 2014. Hernandez also will have a limited no-trade clause&quot;. Why not play the current contract out until 2014??? If Felix is all that hyped up about staying in seatlle, then he will sign a new contract in 2014!!!! If the M&#039;s were smart, they wouldn&#039;t sign Felix to an extension now&quot;. Just my opinion!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yankeepunk3000: &#8220;Felix signed a contract in 2010, that included the following: &#8220;he will receive a $3.5 million signing bonus and salaries of $6.5 million this season (2010), $10 million in 2011, $18.5 million in 2012, $19.5 million in 2013 and $20 million in 2014. Hernandez also will have a limited no-trade clause&#8221;. Why not play the current contract out until 2014??? If Felix is all that hyped up about staying in seatlle, then he will sign a new contract in 2014!!!! If the M&#8217;s were smart, they wouldn&#8217;t sign Felix to an extension now&#8221;. Just my opinion!!</p>
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		<title>By: zzalapski</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zzalapski</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lefty had a few solid seasons thru his age 26 season, but tallied less than 20 WAR, probably because of the depressed offensive environment. His first monster STEVE CARLTON season (1972) was his age 27 season, which cuts him off Matthew&#039;s comparison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lefty had a few solid seasons thru his age 26 season, but tallied less than 20 WAR, probably because of the depressed offensive environment. His first monster STEVE CARLTON season (1972) was his age 27 season, which cuts him off Matthew&#8217;s comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: yankeepunk3000</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well that&#039;s true but I don&#039;t see him getting traded. He&#039;s going to just hit a peek so here&#039;s hoping]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well that&#8217;s true but I don&#8217;t see him getting traded. He&#8217;s going to just hit a peek so here&#8217;s hoping</p>
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		<title>By: cktai</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re talking NY media here, for whom the thought that anyone would block a trade to the Yankees is inconceivable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re talking NY media here, for whom the thought that anyone would block a trade to the Yankees is inconceivable.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reflex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They better hurry.  Felix can&#039;t be traded the first year after signing a new contract as I understand it, and after the second year he hits 10/5 rights, meaning he can&#039;t be traded without consent.  That gives anyone else a 12 month window where he is conceivably available.  I don&#039;t see that happening given that its only two years away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They better hurry.  Felix can&#8217;t be traded the first year after signing a new contract as I understand it, and after the second year he hits 10/5 rights, meaning he can&#8217;t be traded without consent.  That gives anyone else a 12 month window where he is conceivably available.  I don&#8217;t see that happening given that its only two years away.</p>
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		<title>By: mkd</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK wise guy: Who should they be spending their money on? Be specific.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK wise guy: Who should they be spending their money on? Be specific.</p>
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		<title>By: jcmeyer10</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s already been written and in &#039;draft status&#039;.  Just like a lot of sports articles, that will just need a few tweaks before publishing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s already been written and in &#8216;draft status&#8217;.  Just like a lot of sports articles, that will just need a few tweaks before publishing.</p>
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		<title>By: millmannj</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 02:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The semi-annual “should Felix go” columns are out the window now&quot;

I guarantee some time this season a NY columnist will write a story along the lines of, &quot;Mariners can&#039;t afford to pay full Felix contract, will have to trade him to Yankees.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The semi-annual “should Felix go” columns are out the window now&#8221;</p>
<p>I guarantee some time this season a NY columnist will write a story along the lines of, &#8220;Mariners can&#8217;t afford to pay full Felix contract, will have to trade him to Yankees.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: topher2411</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s worth considering that Felix arguably means more to his team&#039;s fanbase than any other single player in the league. Without Felix, what possible reason could there be to keep cheering for this team? And the King&#039;s Court shows how much the town loves him. It&#039;s been that way for years, but is especially the case now that Ichiro is gone. This deal provides value to the Mariners in this sense as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth considering that Felix arguably means more to his team&#8217;s fanbase than any other single player in the league. Without Felix, what possible reason could there be to keep cheering for this team? And the King&#8217;s Court shows how much the town loves him. It&#8217;s been that way for years, but is especially the case now that Ichiro is gone. This deal provides value to the Mariners in this sense as well.</p>
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		<title>By: lazlosother</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent move for the M&#039;s.  As Reflex has pointed out the M&#039;s have a lot in the system, especially pitchers.  An outstanding rotation and a good pen can carry an otherwise flawed team a long way.  Having someone as young as Felix as your veteran ace is better than just good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent move for the M&#8217;s.  As Reflex has pointed out the M&#8217;s have a lot in the system, especially pitchers.  An outstanding rotation and a good pen can carry an otherwise flawed team a long way.  Having someone as young as Felix as your veteran ace is better than just good.</p>
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		<title>By: crankyfrankie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kind of astonished that Carlton wasn&#039;t on that list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of astonished that Carlton wasn&#8217;t on that list.</p>
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		<title>By: bennoj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not quite so easy to trade him down the road... in 2 years his 10/5 rights kick in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite so easy to trade him down the road&#8230; in 2 years his 10/5 rights kick in.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsnut101</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportsnut101]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They not giving him 175 mil in one yr  people n yes they coulda waited one more yr  
But if they want a top free agent to come there they gonna have to overspend.  Unless they have good young players n hope for Oakland n Baltimore lucky streak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They not giving him 175 mil in one yr  people n yes they coulda waited one more yr<br />
But if they want a top free agent to come there they gonna have to overspend.  Unless they have good young players n hope for Oakland n Baltimore lucky streak.</p>
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		<title>By: brianabbe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Felix will be 33 when this deal expires? If anything, you&#039;re paying for one, maybe two years of post-prime production, assuming his health remains. That&#039;s still likely 220 innings with a lower 3&#039;s ERA and about 200 K&#039;s, maybe just under. That would still make him a top 10 starter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Felix will be 33 when this deal expires? If anything, you&#8217;re paying for one, maybe two years of post-prime production, assuming his health remains. That&#8217;s still likely 220 innings with a lower 3&#8242;s ERA and about 200 K&#8217;s, maybe just under. That would still make him a top 10 starter.</p>
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		<title>By: misterchainbluelightning</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to consider this another Stieb&gt;Morris article. Good job Matt, it can&#039;t be said enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to consider this another Stieb&gt;Morris article. Good job Matt, it can&#8217;t be said enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reflex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article title is wrong.  The M&#039;s are resting their future on the youth movement they are building.  They have drafted well for four years now, and made savvy trades for yount talent.  Despite the fact that Felix has been in the majors 8 years, he&#039;s only 26.  As a result he&#039;s the same age as the rest of the youth movement they are building.  Dealing or letting him walk would be ridiculous.

This signing strongly signals that the team is about talent and payroll considerations are second.  It also lets the younger guys know they aren&#039;t going to be &#039;priced out&#039; if they perform well.  This isn&#039;t the Rays(as much as I love that team).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article title is wrong.  The M&#8217;s are resting their future on the youth movement they are building.  They have drafted well for four years now, and made savvy trades for yount talent.  Despite the fact that Felix has been in the majors 8 years, he&#8217;s only 26.  As a result he&#8217;s the same age as the rest of the youth movement they are building.  Dealing or letting him walk would be ridiculous.</p>
<p>This signing strongly signals that the team is about talent and payroll considerations are second.  It also lets the younger guys know they aren&#8217;t going to be &#8216;priced out&#8217; if they perform well.  This isn&#8217;t the Rays(as much as I love that team).</p>
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		<title>By: clevelandschronic2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well there goes all my hope that the indians would sign this guy. Lmao who am i kidding its not like they would pay him, hed get traded for a a large cup of starbucks coffee and a bag of baseballs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there goes all my hope that the indians would sign this guy. Lmao who am i kidding its not like they would pay him, hed get traded for a a large cup of starbucks coffee and a bag of baseballs.</p>
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		<title>By: josh7727</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why is seatle willing to pay $175 mil to one player and not invest in the rest of the team?! its insane to pay one player top dollar and do next to nothing to make the team competative! why isnt that topic the point if yhis article?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is seatle willing to pay $175 mil to one player and not invest in the rest of the team?! its insane to pay one player top dollar and do next to nothing to make the team competative! why isnt that topic the point if yhis article?!</p>
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		<title>By: faulkner22</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t this like spending 10k for racing brakes on a 3k/10yr-old car? What else do they have on the team that is competitive in that division, unless they plan to start spending..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this like spending 10k for racing brakes on a 3k/10yr-old car? What else do they have on the team that is competitive in that division, unless they plan to start spending..</p>
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		<title>By: yankeepunk3000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeepunk3000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[for a couple of years he was making the league minimum. then he had a good contract, not to expensive and won a cy young. If the Mariners want to show their fans that they DO want to win then its a good move. This guy has the ability to last you a long time and if in 2 or 3 years they can&#039;t afford him or feel the need to trade him do you really think some teams won&#039;t make a jump at him? Sure 27 a year is huge and there won&#039;t be a lot of people making that much in baseball but he is one of the best. Mariners made the move and got something done, and that&#039;s still good news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for a couple of years he was making the league minimum. then he had a good contract, not to expensive and won a cy young. If the Mariners want to show their fans that they DO want to win then its a good move. This guy has the ability to last you a long time and if in 2 or 3 years they can&#8217;t afford him or feel the need to trade him do you really think some teams won&#8217;t make a jump at him? Sure 27 a year is huge and there won&#8217;t be a lot of people making that much in baseball but he is one of the best. Mariners made the move and got something done, and that&#8217;s still good news.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsdrenched</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportsdrenched]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somethin&#039; like this I just kind of shurg my shoulders and go: &quot;That&#039;s the price (both in dollars, risk, and opportunity cost of both) of consistant Cy Young caliber pitching&quot;.  Especially when compared to what the FA Market would bring.  I think it&#039;s a good deal for everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somethin&#8217; like this I just kind of shurg my shoulders and go: &#8220;That&#8217;s the price (both in dollars, risk, and opportunity cost of both) of consistant Cy Young caliber pitching&#8221;.  Especially when compared to what the FA Market would bring.  I think it&#8217;s a good deal for everyone.</p>
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