Comments on: Miguel Montero on Trevor Bauer: “He never wanted to listen”

By: bux1022

bux1022 — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:27:29 +0000

Dbags suck.. Who cares!

By: wingsrule12

wingsrule12 — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:43:11 +0000

I had a chance to watch Bauer pitch last year in AAA. He is talented but a bit wild. The game I watched him pitch the team scored 11 runs for him. He was wild an inconstant the entire time he was in the game. If Gibby says that he doesn’t listen that is good enough for me.

By: 4cornersfan

4cornersfan — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:11:27 +0000

Having done Marine Corps boot camp and gone to law school I can tell you that both tend to kick the hubris right out of you, but it returns pretty quickly. When you you get the FMF or go into a law practice you are pretty arrogant and real life plays Whack-A-Mole with you for a while until you either figure it out or retire from the scene. This kid Bauer must be an especially hard case for the D’Backs to give up on him at such an early stage, considering his talent. He now has the choice of doing what he has to do or ending up like Ryan Leaf and others of that breed.

By: jl9830

jl9830 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:48:53 +0000

That’s not the point. His value exceeded the return- if they were going to trade him, they should have traded him for someone other than Didi Gregorious. This is similar to how us Mets fans view the Kazmir fiasco: we’re not necessarily mad the Mets traded him- were mad the Mets traded him for Victor Zambrano. It never makes sense to sell a young, talented pitcher for pennies on the dollar. If Gregorious was the best they could have gotten, which I very highly doubt, the smart move would have been to hold on to him until he raised his value.

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:29:00 +0000

Holy Crap. The Red Sox need to trade for Montero. The way he smack-talks about players no longer on his own roster (Bauer, Valverde) he would fit right in with the culture in Boston.

By: cur68

cur68 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:09:35 +0000

I could sell you some Irony Font™ if you like. $69.69, and that’s a bargain.

By: veryoldgreendragon

veryoldgreendragon — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:56:45 +0000

It was about himself?
Craig doesn’t realize we are here for Old Gator and paperlion posts.

But hey being a baseball writer is better than living in the Extended Stay across the street from the rocket docket.

By: Walk

Walk — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:30:09 +0000

Everyone knew he had an unusual workout philosophy and he was unwilling to change. H enjoyed success at every stop on his way to the majors. He had no reason to feel he should change. It was obvious if the team wanted him to change he was going to have to fail first then he would be likely open to changing his method. The dbacks drafted him then they traded him too quickly. My opinion is that he should have been given a full season to integrate his system of workouts. Almost every young player that comes up struggles in tthe second season due to conditioning and learning how to handle a long 162 game plus season. Once he realised just what he was in for he would have struggled just like most players and would have likely been asking for help to change his workouts. If he did not struggle then this would have been a moot point. Seems to me the dbacks were the ones who truly failed here. The youngster who could see no reason to change what made him a pro, and instead of working with him his team threw him away. I am betting we have all looked back and wondered at the follies of our own youth and wondered if we were ever so naive, how did i make such a poor decision, i really wish i knew then what i know now, bauer will have that moment one day but arizona, i hope, has it sooner. Tempus fugit.

By: cur68

cur68 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:15:15 +0000

I’m having a hard time seeing where its Bauer and Upton who are immature. So far they haven’t said a word about their former employers and teammates. And so far their former employers and teammates are trashing them for no very good reason than anyone can detect.

The jobs these guys signed up for has a name. Its called “Being Good At Baseball”. It is not called “Conforming to a System”. As commenters have pointed out in the Chemistry thread, good team chemistry and “being on the same page” (which are common and oft cited themes in a system) do not equal a winning team. Perhaps someone should point this out to Diamondbacks Management.

By: Carl Hancock

Carl Hancock — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:18:28 +0000

I’m damn glad it appears the Cardinals were able to get to Shelby Miller. It looked like he was going down the same path. You’d have to be an idiot not to listen to guys like Yadier Molina and Mike Matheny when it comes to pitch calling. Maybe Bauer has learned his lesson. Then again, maybe not. He certainly wouldn’t be the first stubborn prospect to never amount to much due to attitude.

By: chacochicken

chacochicken — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:17:49 +0000

I figured the allusion to Dickey would do the trick but, meh.

By: Sign Ahead

Sign Ahead — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:02:11 +0000

At this point it is absolutely crystal-clear. The team was not happy with Trevor Bauer and Justin Upton. Now please, Diamondbacks, please please pleasePLEASE….put them behind you while I still have a small amount of respect for my favorite team. You’re turning into the baseball version of that annoying semi-friend who can’t stop complaining about his ex-girlfriend.

Move on. Play baseball. Prove that you’re better off now than you were before the big breakup. At least pretend that you’re capable and confident on your own. This kvetching and finger-pointing just makes you look self-conscious and vindictive.

By: hushbrother

hushbrother — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:00:22 +0000

Keith Law was asked about Bauer in one of his chats, and he commented that the DBacks might look at the other 21 year olds in their organization and realize that they’re all pretty immature. I work in a bar near a college and can attest, if there’s one thing I’ve learned in my job, it’s that 21 year olds, to an almost universal degree, are pretty friggin’ immature, but there’s usually a tremendous change between the ages of 23 and 25. They go out in the world, stop partying as much, start to think seriously about their careers and their futures, and like Craig, gradually realize they don’t know everything.

Of course, there are a few who remain kids throughout their adult lives too. Hopefully Bauer isn’t one of those.

By: Craig Calcaterra

Craig Calcaterra — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:58:40 +0000

I’m subject to the same libel laws as everyone else. And my value is only as good as what readers think its, which is obviously about credibility.

But beyond that, I do what I want. This is a forum for opinion, commentary, humor and whatever the hell else I and the other writers want it to be.

With all respect, the day I start adhering to the rules which have led the newspaper industry to where it is right now is the day I have failed at what I’m doing.

By: forsch31

forsch31 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:44:00 +0000

From an English major with a concentration in journalism….

1. Never make the story about yourself; you’re the reporter/interviewer.
2. It’s your byline, so you are always responsible for the accuracy of what you put down on the page. Without credibility, you’re useless.
3. Learn what libel is, and avoid it.

Yep, never seen any of that in your writing. Yeah, what a lot of “journalists” do today isn’t what what they taught in journalism school, but honestly, your work here isn’t much different from what they’re doing.

By: Glenn

Glenn — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:39:36 +0000

Maybe Trevor Bauer can be your “Deion Sanders”.

By: unclemosesgreen

unclemosesgreen — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:35:31 +0000

They should have put him in the “calm down corner” until he agreed to use his “listening ears.”

By: unclemosesgreen

unclemosesgreen — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:31:41 +0000

Calcaterra – you’re no Canepa. Now THERE’s a journalist.

I love that so many people try to insult you by saying you’re no journalist, and you simply thank them.

By: natslady

natslady — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:29:22 +0000

Just from his year as a “commentator/analyst,” I don’t see what the big deal is with Francona. It’s hard as a fan to know what the real clubhouse atmosphere is, but I sure didn’t see him giving any special insight when he was on TV.

By: natslady

natslady — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:28:31 +0000

By: cogitobaseballergosum

cogitobaseballergosum — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:26:28 +0000

“it’s just tough to commence and try to get on the same page with you …”

The last time I heard a phrase like that in a baseball interview it was Casey Stengel talking.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:22:46 +0000

Dang, everyone missed the sarcasm….by now you’d figure that everyone would realize that the chicken never posts serious comments.

By: florida76

florida76 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:20:26 +0000

If there was somehow a way to test the lack of listening and overconfidence among 22 year olds over time, I would be willing to bet the overall percentage is higher now. Technology definitely plays a role as well, and there’s a sense of entitlement which is very troubling. For some, you also have an unwillingness to pay the price individually, or sacrifice for the common good.

I’ve seen this firsthand in my career field, where people are now complaining about unpaid internships, when the lessens learned during those internships help pave the way for a long, successful career. Top achievers also have the ability to focus on a singular goal, or task, and the shorter attention span of some is a drawback.

By: pellypell

pellypell — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:18:59 +0000

How do you know someone went to law school? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

By: ltzep75

ltzep75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:47:05 +0000

But when is Eckstein coming out of retirement??

By: ltzep75

ltzep75 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:45:25 +0000

brilliant in its brevity. Well done.

By: Craig Calcaterra

Craig Calcaterra — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:41:55 +0000

If you see me adhering to the things they teach people in journalism school than something has gone very, very wrong with this blog.

By: donkeydrew

donkeydrew — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:37:15 +0000

i guess you “stubbornly ignored” the journalism lesson to not make the story about yourself

By: protius

protius — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:17:14 +0000

Calcaterra, Calabrese much?

By: digbysellers

digbysellers — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:02:25 +0000

Craig Calcaterra is in the best shape of his life.