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Trevor Bauer sidesteps Miguel Montero’s comments, praises the Constitution

Feb 12, 2013, 4:30 PM EDT

We began this morning by talking about Miguel Montero talking about the young Trevor Bauer and his failure, at least in Montero’s eyes, to listen and to take instruction.  Someone on Twitter asked Bauer about that. His response:


I am in no position to know for sure whether Bauer was, as Montero suggested, immature. I will say that his answer here is somewhat more mature than badmouthing a former teammate to the press, even if there is some truth to the badmouthing.

I give this round to Bauer on points.

  1. js20011041 - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    No better way to dodge looking like an asshole than making the person accusing you of being an asshole look like an asshole.

    • Glenn - Feb 12, 2013 at 6:25 PM

      Pulling off the reverse double-asshole shows grit and guile.

    • rdanie29 - Feb 13, 2013 at 12:21 AM

      well, since Montero made those comments almost 6 months ago, I guess Bauer has had plenty of time to think of an answer.

  2. cur68 - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    A nice response by Bauer. Golf clap to him. I now await the Miguel Montero “My Words Were Taken Out Of Context” reply.

    • number42is1 - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM

      Really? cause i am waiting for the bullshit ” fuck war! fuck obama! fuck bush!” replies from others…

  3. vallewho - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    well played, young Sir.

  4. paint771 - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    So clearly, if you think Trevor Bauer is difficult to work with, you hate the troops.

    You don’t hate the troops…do you?

  5. Kevin Gillman - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    I saw Trevor being interviewed by the media after he was traded to the Indians. I was impressed by how much he took at such a young age of 21. Thank you D-Backs for giving us Bauer for Tony Sipp. Well played.

  6. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    What about the women who fight for our rights, you chauvinist pig!

  7. tfbuckfutter - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Glad to see whatever school he went to didn’t bother to teach him how the First Amendment works.

    Unless Miguel Montero was somehow in a position to imprison him or in some other way deprive him of his liberties, of course.

    • tfbuckfutter - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

      Wait…I actually said that last part backwards I think….

      Either way it irritates the hell out of me when people invoke the First Amendment where there actually IS not First Amendment issue….It’s bad enough when it’s an issue with the media or boycotts or something….but in a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP?

      • Jason Lukehart - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:27 PM

        You’ve completely missed the point of Bauer’s tweet if you think he was trying to invoke the First Amendment.

        But I’m pretty sure there’s an Amendment that protects your right to do that, so don’t sweat it.

      • tfbuckfutter - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM

        You’re right. “We have the freedom to say whatever we want” isn’t a reference to the First Amendment.

        And invoking it while discussing a personal relationship isn’t a ridiculous interpretation of it.

      • tfbuckfutter - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM

        Scratch “invoking” and replace with “referencing.”

      • kiwicricket - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM

        Drink and post in moderation.

      • Jason Lukehart - Feb 12, 2013 at 6:41 PM

        His point (very clearly, I thought) was that Montero can say what he wants to say, and he (Bauer) isn’t going to get bent out of shape about it. It was a clever quip, not an actual attempt to “interpret” the Constitution.

      • tfbuckfutter - Feb 12, 2013 at 7:04 PM

        “He can say whatever he wants.” “I don’t care what he says.”

        Those would be examples of what you described.

        Mentioning “freedom” as it pertains to speech and then the military is both misunderstanding the First Amendment and pandering.

        The military is not fighting for anyone’s right to criticize another civilians work ethic.

    • kiwicricket - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

      I’m curious….can you point out where exactly these men(and women) fight, as to protect your ‘freedom of speech’ ???

      • historiophiliac - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM

        hear, hear!

      • jjschiller - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM

        Anywhere Halliburton says so, baby.

      • tfbuckfutter - Feb 12, 2013 at 6:05 PM

        If I were a soldier and someone told me I was risking my life for Miguel Montero’s right to call Trevor Bauer a dick, I’d pack up my shit and go right the hell home.

        Now, if Montero were arrested for his comments….well, that’s a bit of a different scenario. But I’m pretty sure every country on earth you are allowed to call another ordinary civilian a dick without fear of reprisal.

      • kiwicricket - Feb 12, 2013 at 8:50 PM

        I think you are missing my question. Where/what has your military got to do with freedom of speech and your basic rights as a US citizen?

      • tfbuckfutter - Feb 12, 2013 at 10:00 PM

        kiwi, well….the military takes orders from the government and if the government tries to infringe on our rights we’ll just ask them to have the military stop them from doing it…..

        Oh, no wait….that’s why we aren’t supposed to have any restrictions on gun ownership…so if the government uses the military to infringe on our rights we’ll have a bunch of guns to stop them….

        The theory behind the military “protecting our rights” is that they protect our country from other countries invading and taking over. It’s no longer really relevant.

        They do of course protect our country (or are prepared to), but it’s not really from any threat of takeover.

      • largebill - Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38 AM

        Bunker Hill, Saratoga, Lexington, Shiloh, Vicksburg, Gettysburg, Iwo Jima, Anzio, Normandy, Suribachi, Pearl Harbor, Hue City, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc, etc, etc.

      • kiwicricket - Feb 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM

        Really Bill?? WWII(and even the Civil War) in the same list as Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan?
        That is almost offensive to rational thinking humans.

  8. chacochicken - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Some people like their cucumbers pickled.

  9. historiophiliac - Feb 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    I hate to be the one who points out that you can’t actually say whatever you want, but…

    • indaburg - Feb 12, 2013 at 11:30 PM

      ‘philiac, great answer below re: fighting in wars ≠ fighting for our rights. I particularly love the old man’s response.

      It’s amazing how many people think there are no limits on our freedom of speech.

  10. Old Gator - Feb 12, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    I did mention the sudden and unexpected maturity of Bryce Harper this morning in connection with Bauer. Sounds like Bauer’s been hanging out with him this winter. Or at least, with his public relations consultant.

  11. Jackson - Feb 12, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    As someone who has had family members serve in the armed forces, I respect this response from Bauer.

    • kiwicricket - Feb 12, 2013 at 8:47 PM

      I don’t understand. What has someones free speech got to do with the military?
      Without regurgitating all the mindless brainwash that has endlessly been spewed out, can someone please explain what your military has to do with rights and freedom of speech?

      Illegally invading and murdering civilians of other countries for political and financial gain is somehow linked to your rights as a US citizen?

      • historiophiliac - Feb 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM

        kiwi, you will not get a good answer on that b/c Staters conflate military service w/ fighting for our rights. Most people can’t separate those thoughts. I make my students interview someone about a past event and invariably, some of them pick veterans. Once, a student interviewed a WWII vet and was completely shocked when the old dude told him: “These wars have nothing to do with protecting your rights. You’re as free as you’re ever gonna be.” They forget that what gives them their freedoms is the Constitution and courts. The military is not part of that…unless, you know, you count protecting us from the Communist — oops! terrorist menace. (And please overlook that we willingly handed over our freedom from unwarranted searches b/c we freaked out about a terrorist act — thus, stripping ourselves of our own freedom to spite the terrorists.)

      • kiwicricket - Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 PM

        It makes me feel good inside knowing there is someone out there who can distinguish the difference.
        It really does boggle the mind sometimes.

  12. djjackson81 - Feb 12, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Y’all from outside the Dbacks world can say whatever you want. The bottom line is yes even after Bauers skill set he was a rookie who wasn’t ready and didn’t listening to anyone’s advice instructions or teaching. Even from an all star catcher who knows the batters strengths and weaknesses more then the new kid who has proven to hing yet.

    • Sign Ahead - Feb 12, 2013 at 9:53 PM

      As someone from inside the Diamondbacks’ world (or at least someone who is firmly entrenched in Diamondbacks fandom), I gotta say that I’m embarrassed for our team.

      We made a lot of pretty noise about grit, and teamwork and chemistry. Then we went out and acted like petty, vindictive children. While the people we let go…the ones who we say have attitude problems…have conducted themselves like professionals.

      Until we learn how to act like grown-ups, our comments, and our integrity, are seriously suspect.

  13. louhudson23 - Feb 13, 2013 at 7:45 AM

    Well,he can’t really say whatever he wants. He said whatever he wanted and they got rid of his ass. He is now free to go be(or not be) a dick on his new team. Which path he chooses will be determined by his new employers and whether or not they find him worth the trouble. Best of luck to him,but it does not sound as though he learned very much.When “working on placing your fastball” is apparently too much advice to follow,then you have a long tough road ahead,made all the tougher by youthful obstinacy.You can either be a thoughtful sponge or an obdurate rock…..

  14. rrsm53 - Feb 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    when montero amounts to something other than a wannabe cause he hasnt done squat for such a supposed highly regarded player he should just shut and play until shows us all something.

    • kiwicricket - Feb 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM

      So being one of the best all-round catchers in the league is not quite enough for you?

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