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David Ortiz: “baseball players, we pretty much might be the dumbest athletes of all the sports”

Feb 13, 2013, 5:16 PM EDT

David Ortiz AP

Sean McAdam of spoke to David Ortiz about a number of topics yesterday. One of them was the Biogenesis thing. Ortiz didn’t get into any specifics, obviously, but this was fun:

“When I first heard about [players being linked to the clinic],” he said. “I started saying that us, as baseball players, we pretty much might be the dumbest athletes of all the sports because there’s a history of players doing things like that and later on getting caught. We’re talking about six or seven years. So how come in 2011 or 2012, there are players still being caught in the same situation?

Maybe. But that NBA player just got busted and some people say you gotta be a special kind of stupid to get busted for PEDs in the NBA.

Maybe they should put Ortiz in charge of the investigation. I’m sure he’ll get to the bottom of this.

  1. vallewho - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Just pass the milkshake…

    • El Bravo - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM

      I. Drink. Your. Milkshake!

      • ditto65 - Feb 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM


      • icewalker946 - Feb 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        Love that movie.

  2. rjostewart - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Funny – and weirdly under-reported – story about Ortiz. According to both MLB and the MLBPA, his test from 2003 wasn’t positive, it was “inconclusive.” Not that it will clear him in the minds of many, but take for what it’s worth.

    “MLB has contested the list’s accuracy, claiming only 96 positive tests were recorded by the union in 2003, not the widely reported 104 positives. Both the Players Association and MLB have stated that 13 results were inconclusive, including that of Boston Red Sox slugger David Ortiz, who The New York Times recently asserted had tested positive for steroids in 2003.”

    • genericcommenter - Feb 14, 2013 at 8:57 AM

      I will give anyone with an inconclusive the benefit of the doubt. That’s just the side you gotta err on.

  3. threefingerclown - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Trying to figure out which sport has the dumbest athletes is like trying to figure out which Police Academy movie has the worst actors.

    • mscxvd - Feb 13, 2013 at 9:05 PM


  4. zacksdad - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Probably what he means is that why would you go to the clinic yourself. Send a close family member to get it for you and then you use it.

    • jarathen - Feb 14, 2013 at 8:00 AM

      Not a family member. A friend. Or a friend of a friend.

  5. juradura - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Based on a percentage it’s likely that MLB has the least amount of formal education. If you want to go to the NFL you aren’t getting in without at least 3 years of college. Football players are also watched like hawks, making sure they go to class and attend study hours. Basketball you’re playing at least 1 year but probably more. Baseball players can avoid college by drafting out of high school and going straight to the farm. They hardly even have to graduate high school just look at Jeremy Bonderman or Bryce Harper.

    • tfbuckfutter - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:44 PM

      Yeah. Football players definitely get the most out of their education and are never pushed through classes in shady schools.

    • indaburg - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM

      Three years of “college” (wink, wink)…

    • stlouis1baseball - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:53 PM

      “Football players are also watched like hawks,making sure they go to class and attend study hours.”

      You don’t really believe this shit do you?

      I know a dude who played QB (was a back up) and was a starting Pitcher for a Big Ten school.
      They knew (every time) when they were being drug tested. Dudes had their tutors piss in hot water bottles and taped them to the inside of their thigh.
      But yeah…they are watched like hawks and go to every class.
      The classes are “shoestring tying 101,” “underwater basket weaving,” “the history of basketball,” “passenger plane etiquette,” and “the art of peanut butter.” But yeah…they are scholars!

      • cogitobaseballergosum - Feb 13, 2013 at 11:41 PM

        I’ll never understand why underwater basket weaving is always on this list of easy classes for dumb athletes. Have you ever tried it? It’s not that easy to hold your breath at the bottom of the pool and twist those soggy sticks around each other.

      • timmmah10 - Feb 14, 2013 at 8:35 AM

        Agree, regular basket weaving is WAY easier.

    • dakotah55 - Feb 13, 2013 at 6:10 PM

      MLB probably has the least amount of formal education, but i firmly believe that football players are dumber. If you doubt it, I suggest you open a new tab and go to

      • tfbuckfutter - Feb 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM

        I think that includes football fans too.

        Jesus, it is like almost everyone who posts there is a product of the Mississippi school system.

        And their opinions on social issues tend to make me suspect the same.

      • jarathen - Feb 14, 2013 at 8:04 AM

        My mom used to work as a bank manager back when the Rams were in LA, and she said some of them had a hard time signing their own darn checks.


    • shaggylocks - Feb 13, 2013 at 6:42 PM

      Q. How many college football players does it take to screw in a light bulb?
      A. One, but he gets three credits for it.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 13, 2013 at 7:31 PM

      Not to pile on here, but you should read about the academic scandal at UNC which came to light courtesy of all people, a football player (Julius Peppers and, for some reason, his published transcript).

      Deadspin has the links:

    • purnellmeagrejr - Feb 14, 2013 at 9:09 AM

      Guaranteed contracts, a bunch of days off even in season. I’d say they were pretty smart , or at least smart enough to hire somebody to unionize them. No union they’d be playing for 50K annually.

  6. El Bravo - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Well, he does have a point in that the new that testing was much more stringent in 2011-2012, but yet these numbskulls are still affiliated with a place like Biogenesis. They still took P.E.D.s and some of them failed the tests last year. They have to be really stupid then right? Same goes for Chooch and Adderall. How the hell did he not realize that was banned, but for being a dumb stupid idiot? What I don’t understand is how they don’t have agents and/or lawyers protecting them at all times and advising them as to who they should and shouldn’t associate with when it comes to meds and training. We see that Boras is indeed trying to implement this now for his clients. You can’t rely on the player making the safe/right/legal decision. They are clearly just not smart enough to do so and the incentive to stay clean is still too low it seems.

  7. tfbuckfutter - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Have you ever heard anyone in the NFL speak?

    Aside from the Quarterback position overall, and then a sprinkling of other guys here and there, they are easily the dumbest athletes in pro sports, and then they get hit in the head all the time to boot.

    Baseball players aren’t necessarily stupid, they are just so arrogant they don’t think they will ever get caught.

  8. El Bravo - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Boxers are dumbest actually.

    • stlouis1baseball - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:55 PM

      Yes they are.
      Now if you will excuse me…I have some master baiting (or I mean)…trolling to do.

    • stlouis1baseball - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM

      P.S. I haven’t told you lately…but you are a penis head. LOL!

      • historiophiliac - Feb 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

        Easy on the Adderall there, buddy.

  9. mantastic54 - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    I’d say football players are much dumber based on all the off the field issues we always hear about

  10. irishphilly87 - Feb 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Umm Big Papi’s name was in the same report as Pettitte and Clemens and we know they took PED’s. Ortiz is guilty too go look at his #’s in the beginning of his career that says it all not to mention the report. Boston’s #3 and #4 hitter Manny and Papi were cheating. Congrats Boston you’re awesome for your cheated World Series in 04′

  11. fukpittsburgh - Feb 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Idk it’s a real tossup with the NBA but a reason why baseball players might be the dumbest is because about 90% of them have a high school education or less. The only thing the players from the D.R. and Puerto Rico studied since they were children was baseball.

    • js20011041 - Feb 13, 2013 at 7:12 PM

      You’re confusing education with intelligence. It’s possible to be highly intelligent, but not have a college education. It’s also possible, although less likely, to be highly educated but not very intelligent. There are dumbasses in every sport, although my bet would be on either football or basketball. I love me some football, but my god, if you watched any of the signing day coverage a week or so ago, you know what I’m talking about. These kids don’t belong in a high school classroom, let alone a college one.

      • bleedgreen - Feb 14, 2013 at 7:11 AM

        Less likely to be educated and not intelligent? Have you heard members of the US federal government even once in the last 10 years? They all seem to be like that.

      • badintent - Feb 15, 2013 at 2:40 AM

        You got that right. Still waiting for Timmy the Weseal to explain his bank “stress test ” for Wall sTreet Bailout.

  12. unclemosesgreen - Feb 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    He is definitely an authority on idiocy, having played with the 2004 Red Sox.

  13. yankeepunk3000 - Feb 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    LOL sorry but his wrong. NBA and football players in sure are the stupidest of the 3

  14. caeser12 - Feb 13, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Has David ever heard football players from the SEC (and too many of their fans) speak?

  15. nfl4days - Feb 13, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Actually their are more smart players than stupid ones in football, but the stupid ones a REAAALLLLLYY stupid and LOUD so they get all the media time. Who are you gonna report? The well educated men speaking in fluid sentences and helping the team, or the guys arguing with their baby mommas in twitter, getting duis, and embarrassing black people all over? That goes for fans as well. I just think baseball players are the most arrogant and dont believe they’ll be caught.

  16. mazblast - Feb 13, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    My vote is for soccer players. They spend their lives running around in lousy weather, kicking a ball back and forth, not being allowed to use their hands, playing a game in which 3-2 is considered a high score.

    Maybe I should change my vote to soccer FANS. They pay to watch it.

  17. thecubanamericancrocodile - Feb 14, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Some of these football players coming out of high school sound like they were public school educated… uh, wait, er, uh, okay so I guess it all makes sense now. Now all they need is a free ride to go and be educated in one of the many communist universities so they can continue to think that they are tolerant, informed, and a higher quality individual that just about everyone else, and they can join the vote for humanist statists, ie progressives/liberals, who blind the gullible with bribes from the U.S. Treasury, cell phones, and slick talk about GloBULL Warming and the failures of George W. Bush. Yeah! That’s the ticket!

    • bleedgreen - Feb 14, 2013 at 7:14 AM

      I hate to break it to you, but global warming exists and is most definitely a thing. Thats not even argued anymore. The debate is whether its caused by people or if its just a natural phenomenon. Sounds like you’re one of the people that also thinks you’re an informed, higher quality individual. You aren’t.

    • 18thstreet - Feb 14, 2013 at 9:12 AM

      Get your stupid politics off this site.

    • mntreehugger - Feb 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM

      Looks like there isn’t a whole lot going on over at PFT…

  18. yankeehawk - Feb 14, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Like my buddy used to say Ortiz……”keep talkin’….I’ll stop u when ur wrong”

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