Comments on: Coincidence? I think not.

By: baseballer28

baseballer28 — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:53:15 +0000

This guy is freakin as guilty as Bonds or Clemons…I wish MLB would ban him. We don’t need guys like this in The Show. He’s a fraud and a loser.

By: byjiminy

byjiminy — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:12:36 +0000

Well he says he didn’t. He says his dad went there.

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:53:43 +0000

Gowachin guilty.

Did I miss a meme here? Someone please explain…

By: randygnyc

randygnyc — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 03:07:06 +0000

Medical records? You won’t find those. Bosch wasn’t a doctor. What you will find is a drug dealers hand written notes. With the buyers names, what their drugs of choices are and sometimes, monetary amounts. Players no longer get the benefit of the doubt with me.

By: voteforno6

voteforno6 — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:26:28 +0000

I’m not parsing words. I’m responding to your contention that his name appeared next to the pink cream reference. This link is very tenuous at best. If you have a chance, take a look at that particular page (it’s on the New Times website). Gonzalez’s name is on the bottom left-hand side, along with some statistics. On the right side, starting at the top of the sheet is a list of ingredients for “pink cream.” These entries do not visually line up. Rather, they look like separate entries in a note pad. There’s very little organization to these notes, other than some dates on them.

All that we know is that these are notes, and there is no indication that any of these are actually part of a medical file. All that we’ve seen is what appears to be pages from Bosch’s personal notebook(s). You are the one that is leaping to conclusions here, without seeming to have actually looked at these documents.

If you really want to hang Gonzalez over this aspect of the story, then that’s your prerogative. However, your problem here is that you’re basing it on some very flimsy evidence, while ignoring another part of this that has not been addressed by Gonzalez or anyone.

By: shwoogy1

shwoogy1 — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:07:30 +0000

Seriously though, who cares if athletes take PED’s. Let them roid up and make the games funner to watch. It’s their own body, let them do what they want. They’ve obviously been doing it for forever anyways. Let it go.

By: djpostl

djpostl — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 01:52:57 +0000

They were notes in a medical file. Keep parsing words all you want but that makes it part of a record.

Additionally, it doesn’t matter what it looks like now with a bunch of hindsight, multiple interviews with MLB etc…

The moment that record/note turned up and had the phrase “pink cream” it meant MLB would invoke that clause and have him tested.

I don’t know if he used stuff, but I do know if I was looking at the same information at the moment in time I’d have been drawing blood and making him pee in a cup also.

By: sdemp

sdemp — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 01:04:06 +0000

Nobody’s whining donkey. . . obviously your comprehension skills are lacking.

The point is that the PED’s that are now illegal in baseball were at one point legal and rampant throughout baseball. Why do players of the 70′s, 80′s, 90′s get a past, but players of today are labeled steriod users.

Its a joke and so are you.

By: voteforno6

voteforno6 — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:09:42 +0000

They weren’t actually records, they were notes. If you have time, go check that page in question. It looks more like a coincidence than any link between Gonzalez and pink cream.

By: djpostl

djpostl — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:58:44 +0000

Or you could stop being a whiny bitch and realize that it’s their business, their game.

They get to make the rules and if you don’t like it stop watching.

By: djpostl

djpostl — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:57:26 +0000

How quickly you forget in records later divulged, Gonzalez’s name appears next to a substance called, “pink cream.

Yeah, that name isn’t going to raise suspicions after Balco. Not at all.

By: sdemp

sdemp — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:34:40 +0000

Its simple, test positive for greenies and you’re labeled a steriod/PED user, even though most players in the 70′s, 80′s, 90′s used greenies daily. MLB and all sports writers are a bunch of hylypocrites. For petes sake, MLB players can’t even drink a monster because its not FDA approved.

Until MLB can prove exactly what these players took to trigger a positive test I think MLB can go to hell and take their testing policy with them.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:26:56 +0000

It doesn’t have to. Gowachin guilty!

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:26:01 +0000

When you’re Gowachin guilty, there are no “coincidences.”

By: thebadguyswon

thebadguyswon — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:14:29 +0000

I have no idea if he is. I’m assuming he’s smart enough not to get caught, if he is using.

By: natslady

natslady — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:09:04 +0000

No one thinks it is a coincidence but it is interesting that after the test Gio was invited to the WBC: also not a coincidence ++ right?

By: rjostewart

rjostewart — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:00:12 +0000

How quickly everyone has forgotten that the substance Gonzalez is alleged to have purchased is legal under MLB rules.

By: chadjones27

chadjones27 — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:50:32 +0000

For the record, I am not saying, he’s guilty, just that this new test may not prove anything regarding the Biogenesis report.

By: chadjones27

chadjones27 — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:49:17 +0000

How long do those “banned substances” stay in one’s blood? If he stopped prior to his involvement being “leaked” by the Biogenesis report, all the new test proves is that he’s clean… NOW.

By: dwdive

dwdive — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:47:22 +0000

Ohhhhhh Boy! It will be really interesting if the test comes back hot… Hopefully Fed Ex was responsible for the shipping, or else he could just find a chain of custody loop hole like Braun did. But Braun never used right? Even though both samples were positive? Funny stuff

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:46:37 +0000

Gowachin guilty. Told ya so.

By: jrd8523

jrd8523 — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:39:19 +0000

It doesn’t have to be fair. Look at how many olympic athletes beat the olympic testing procedures only to be implicated through records, testimony, and their own cornered admissions. “I never tested positive” is a phrase thats been said by many admitted cheaters.

The investigations that are ongoing are what matters.

By: jrd8523

jrd8523 — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:34:26 +0000

Exactly You would think the long list of athletes who only got caught because of paper trails would get people to stop dwelling on the testing. Its a test to how prepared you are to cheat more than its a drug test.

I take a lot of drugs for a man who has passed every drug test he has ever taken with ease.

By: sportfandc

sportfandc — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:30:38 +0000

So, if the test comes back positive, he guilty. And if the test comes back negative, he’s guilty. I bet you have a HOF vote.

By: themohel

themohel — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:26:41 +0000

It might also be interesting to see how some writers on certain web sites would react if his test comes back dirty.

By: somekat

somekat — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:25:43 +0000

Or that he is using one of the dozens of PE’s that MLB doesn’t even test for

By: number42is1

number42is1 — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:20:31 +0000

According to Big Papi, yes

By: 4cornersfan

4cornersfan — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:18:25 +0000

Why would a player even go near a clinic that has been suspected of selling PEDs, whether or not they were taking the stuff? My understanding is that suspicion about Biogenesis go back to 2009 when Manny was suspended. Is there something about a baseball that makes you stupid when you hit it or throw it?

By: anotheryx

anotheryx — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:15:26 +0000

All it would mean is that he does not have significant amount of the chemical tested in his system at the time of the test, same with any other drug test.
Players are tested all the time, and all but the most dumb ones pass.

By: thebadguyswon

thebadguyswon — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:15:20 +0000

He’s figured a way to beat the tests I’m sure, if he’s using anything at all. We’ll never know unless he tests positive, which I’m sure he won’t.