Comments on: Brennan Boesch day-to-day after tweaking right oblique http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Sat, 25 May 2013 14:30:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: paperlions http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-444423 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:06:48 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-444423 Yes, but the main difference between that year and others was the higher BABIP.

]]> By: joerymi http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-444404 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:49:18 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-444404 His best overall season was his second year in the league. I assume there was already tape on him.

]]> By: paperlions http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-444106 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:45:29 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-444106 A lot of those things (wRC+, wOBA, OPS, even ISO) are affected by BABIP. There isn’t any hitting stat that normalizes for BABIP because it is thought that hitters are more responsible for their BABIP than are pitchers.

I would guess that Boesch had a bit of a streak when he was first called up due to pitchers having no film on him and a bit of luck. Once pitchers had the book on him, his performance went down to his talent level and has pretty much stayed there. Things like K% and BB% can bounce a couple % between years due to chance.

]]> By: joerymi http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-444060 Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:13:14 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-444060 I would be interested in a breakdown of his rookie year because it was a tale of two seasons, but I will concede that every rookie deals with it that on some level, although I doubt many are as drastic.

But the differences I am seeing in 2011 and 2012 seems more drastic to me.

His K/BB is at about league average, maybe a tick below, and has been fairly consistent.

But 2011 vs. 2012, his K% was 3.1% higher, while having a BB% 2.2% lower. Nothing too crazy, but enough for me to wonder which player will be suiting up. His O-Swing% has been consistently brutal, and not a good sign. His wOBA had a significant drop of .060. In that category, he went from above average to well below (h/t FanGraphs).

It wasn’t only his BABIP that really bounced around. Drastic differences (all lower in 2012) in OPS+ of 39, wRC+ of 40, wRAA (Not intended to be redundant) of 23. The differences in numbers aside, he went from above average to below in these categories.

The differences in power are there as well. His 2011 ISO was a very respectable .175 to a less than stellar .132. I will concede I was shocked that he only had 4 fewer HR between 2011 and 2012.

At the end of the day, he will never be a high end guy like he looked he might be in the first part of his rookie year. But I am curious to see if 2011 or 2012 is more the anomaly. I actually think we are pretty close on our feelings of the guy, but I think I liked his 2011 a bit more, maybe too much.

It doesn’t look good, however, when a guy can’t get it done while batting behind Austin Jackson and in front of Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder. Not exactly a confidence builder.

]]> By: Cereal http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-443642 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:18:37 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-443642 Wait, his name is Brennan ? I have been calling him Brandon for a couple of years….

]]> By: papacrick http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-443432 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:50:59 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-443432 This guy was incredible his first half season in the bigs. He hit .340 with 12 bombs and the he fell off a cliff and never recovered. No recognition of the strike zone and a poor attitude. Usually that would cement your place in Toledo however Boesch got a 400 percent raise after consecutive sub .300 OBP seasons. If only the real world worked like this we’d all be rich

]]> By: paperlions http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-443423 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:24:36 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-443423 If you look at Boesch’s peripherals, he’s been pretty much the same hitter his entire career. Doesn’t walk, Ks at about a league average rate, some power….the only thing that has really bounced around is his BABIP, which went from .297 to .315 to .284. There isn’t anything in his MiLB stats that indicate he could be a high BABIP hitter, that .315 (and associated .341 OBP) is probably about as good as you can expect from him….given his hit tool and speed, he’s probably a sub-300 BABIP player going forward.

]]> By: joerymi http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-443399 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:01:31 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-443399 + First half of rookie year: Looked like a budding star.

+ Second half of rookie year: Looked like a below average bench player.

+ Second season: Looked like an above average hitter. Was missed greatly in the playoffs.

+ Third season: Just plain awful.

I have no idea what to expect with this guy.

]]> By: Minoring In Baseball http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-443386 Mon, 18 Feb 2013 02:56:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-443386 This will probably but him behind a little bit in getting his bat ready for the season. We’re all hoping he can find his old form and help the Tigers out with his power. All the best in his recovery.
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]]> By: jwbiii http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-443365 Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:59:31 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-443365 Like the first crocuses sprouting, the first oblique injury is a sure sign of spring.

]]> By: historiophiliac http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/17/brennan-boesch-day-to-day-after-tweaking-right-oblique/comment-page-1/#comment-443357 Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:17:58 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=298991#comment-443357 Yep, that face says it all.

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