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David Price says he wouldn’t sign with the Yankees because of their facial hair policy

Feb 20, 2013, 8:38 AM EST

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This will probably set talk radio and the tabloids afire for a day or so, even if it’s pretty meaningless. Here’s David Price, talking to Jon Paul Morosi about the possibility of him being traded by the Rays this year because of approaching free agency:

“If I ever did hit that free-agent market, there would be teams I wouldn’t sign with simply because of the stuff that I’ve heard – every rule they have” … Taking note of his beard, I told Price he’d have to shave if the Yankees traded for him.

“I wouldn’t stay there very long then,” he responded. “I wouldn’t sign a long-term deal there. Those rules, that’s old-school baseball. I was born in ’85. That’s not for me. That’s not something I want to be a part of.”

I think facial hair policies are silly too. But I’m also pretty sure if the Yankees made Price an offer which was clearly superior to any other teams when he hits free agency, he’d figure out a way to make rules like that work, even if he was born in 1985.

In other news, remember when the Reds had a facial hair policy? They did for years, actually. You know who they scrapped it for: Greg Vaughn of all people. That never ceases to make me smile.

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  1. Rich Stowe - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    I believe if the Yankees offer him a boatload of money, he’d shave…it’s amazing what truckloads of cash will change when it comes to beliefs etc

    • paperlions - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:56 AM

      I believe if the Yankees want one of the best young pitchers in baseball to sign for a long term deal, they’ll change their facial hair policy. Price is a rare commodity, teams willing to pay price over $150M are much more common. Price would be the guy with the leverage, not the Yankees.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:21 AM

        The Yanks have brought in other, better players, and didn’t change their policy. Why should they start now?

      • paperlions - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM

        Who is one player that was both better than price and had facial hair he didn’t want to shave off that signed with the Yankees?

      • wpjohnson - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:26 AM

        Like them or not, the New York Yankees are the premiere franchise in baseball. Price is a good pitcher just like hundreds of other pitchers through the history of baseball. To MLB, the Yankees have a special place at the top. . Price is merely a player. Players come and go.

      • thebadguyswon - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:25 AM

        The Yankees are just another team that happens to have a long history, not unlike the Cardinals, Reds, Cubs and Red Sox. Only Yankees fans call them the “premier franchise in MLB.” Only in your minds, fellas.

      • American of African Descent - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

        If the Yankees are not the premier MLB franchise, then why is their value the highest?

      • thebadguyswon - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM

        Is Alex Rodriguez the premier talent in MLB? Highest value doesn’t mean premier franchise. There is no premier franchise. There’s no Santa Claus either.

      • paperlions - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM

        The Yankees are not the premier franchise in any way, shape, or form. They spend the most money, but that is it. They don’t have the best baseball ops people, they don’t scout the best, develop the best, or make the best trades…..the last 15 years, all they have done was buy players other teams developed.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM

        the last 15 years, all they have done was buy players other teams developed.

        Come on, you’re a lot smarter than that.

        Is Alex Rodriguez the premier talent in MLB? Highest value doesn’t mean premier franchise.

        Highest contract != highest value

      • paperlions - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

        Prove me wrong. In the early 90s they were a great organization that developed their own talent…then they stopped.

      • hackerjay - Feb 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

        Paperlions, Jason Giambi had to shave off his goatee and cut his long hair when he signed with the Yankees, and at that point in his career he had more career value and was far more well known.

      • misterchainbluelightning - Feb 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM

        When Yankees go a decade without making the playoffs, we’ll see how long rules like this hold up.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 20, 2013 at 2:38 PM

        Jason Giambi and Roger Clemens both had to shave when they joined the Yankees. Randy Johnson had to cut off his mullet (thank god) when he joined the Yankees.

        Prove me wrong. In the early 90s they were a great organization that developed their own talent…then they stopped.

        LF – farm
        CF – trade
        RF – trade/FA (Ichiro)
        3b – trade
        ss – farm
        2b – farm
        1b – FA
        C – if romine then farm, if stewart then waivers

        So 1 FA out of 9 position players, 2 if you want to count Ichiro

        CC/Kuroda were FAs, Pettitte as a FA but was a farmboy, Nova/Hughes/Phelps are all from the farm

        Almost entire relief core is from the farm system (Mo, Robertson, Chamberlain, with Montgomery likely to join them later in the year). Eppley was selected off waivers and Logan came in via trade. Rapada was released and signed as a FA.

        So 2/9 position, 2/5 starters and 1/5 relief pitchers means they haven’t developed anyone? Come on…

      • paperlions - Feb 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM

        Of course, the difference is that the Yankees can afford to pay to keep the players they develop and to sign away players other teams develop….whereas most teams can do one, the other, or neither. Most teams don’t have the money to keep their core together….much less keep all the players they want and buy others.

        ARod was a FA when he last signed, not acquired in trade.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:14 PM

        Yes he was, but he was originally acquired via trade. After he opted out and rumors floated a minimum of a 10 year deal, I bet 29 other GM’s all started calling each other with the same “holy shit can you believe the Yanks are going to go 10 years and $300M for this guy. Do they know he’s not 18 any more?”

    • albertmn - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM

      But, he will get a boatload of money wherever he goes. He might pull in what, $40-100 million or more depending on how long of a contract? What difference does an extra $5-10 million the Yankees might offer matter?

    • chicagoteamster - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:47 PM

      2 words: “Cliff Lee.” A few more words: the best players make so much money that they have the freedom to turn down extra millions. Good for them.

    • brianabbe - Feb 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM

      Maybe, but if someone hypothetically offers me $175 million with a requirement to shave, and someone else offers me ‘only’ $165 million, I’m pretty sure I can find a way to be happy without that extra $10 million, especially considering the state of NY has one of the higher state income taxes anyway. Someone may not even have to beat the Yankee offer; all they have to do is get close enough.

  2. Rich Stowe - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    CC sabathia also said he’d never pitch in NY…then the offer came in…

    • yankeepunk3000 - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:33 AM

      oh so true. good point

    • tuberippin - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:59 AM

      That’s just because CC wasn’t prepared to turn down the NY cuisine. Gotta have those salted cured meats from the best delis in the country

  3. tfbuckfutter - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    Mustache only policies have no place outside of a leather bar.

    Seriously….. talk about obsessive compulsive control issues.

    • chacochicken - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      I’m willing to let Price keep his beard but only if Derek Holland curtails those damn wacky antics of his.

    • fanofevilempire - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM

      and a few others.

      Sweet Lou told a story, just short version.

      George tells Lou you have to get a haircut your a Yankee now, Lou said George, Jesus had long hair, George says Lou, if you can walk across that water( pointing to the pool) you can keep the hair. The next day Lou had a crew cut.
      That is what being a Yankee is about.
      That is why the Yankees have 27 championships.
      I have facial hair, but I’m not a player.

      • chacochicken - Feb 20, 2013 at 1:10 PM

        Outspending the competition is what being a Yankee is all about. I’m sure Lou Pinella was a better player with short hair. What if megalomaniac George had demanded that everyone must grow beards?

  4. mdev1987 - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    They’d lift it

  5. uyf1950 - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    Since Price isn’t scheduled to become a free agent until the 2016 I don’t think that’s of any immediate concern for either Price or the Yankees.

    • Matt Aromando - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM

      He could be traded away sooner than that, though. He’s getting paid $10 million this season and the Rays might not have the money to give him the raise he’ll likely deserve over the next couple of years.

      • uyf1950 - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:17 AM

        Yes he can be traded before 2016 and probably will be. But since the Rays tend to not trade with teams in their own division it’s still not something the Yankees or Price probably need to concern themselves with. BTW, if he is trade before FA and if it were to the Yankees he would have no choice but to remove the facial hair.

  6. mrfloydpink - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    I, for one, think the Yankees’ policy is totally reasonable and entirely apropos. Because you know who has facial hair? Only losers.

    Losers like Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Mohandas Gandhi, John Lennon, Albert Einstein, Walt Disney, Andrew Carnegie, Ernest Hemingway, Pablo Picasso, Mark Twain, Charles Darwin, Frederick Douglass, and Moses.

    • tfbuckfutter - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:54 AM

      They can have facial hair….mustache only though. You know who can pull off that look? Cops, firemen, Nick Offerman, men over 50 and child molestors.

      That is it. Anyone else who tries just looks like they fall in that last category.

      • number42is1 - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM

        you forgot probably the most important group out there… Porn stars… *DING DONG! Pizza Delivery”

      • number42is1 - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM

        Oh and this…

      • unclehilroy - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:33 AM

        Price doesn’t want to end up like Don Mattingly…

      • royhobbs39 - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:43 AM

        You forgot Hawaiian Private Investigators

    • paperlions - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:57 AM

      Plus the entire Robertson family.

    • Old Gator - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:16 AM

      Floyd, you forgot Herman Melville, who used to be a relief pitcher for the Giants:

    • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:25 AM

      Don’t forget the father of all beards. Ron fu@$!ng Swanson.

      • scoutsaysweitersisabust - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    • yourmomcalled - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM

      Picasso did not have facial hair.

  7. usmcwx - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    I was born in 76 & I had no problem shaving everday for the Marine Corps. While I was obviously not getting paid millions of dollars to do so. This is just another great example of the younger entitlement generation. If the United States military can shave everyday just shut the hell up Price and shave your beard if they ask you to you’re getting paid millions to have fun.

    • pmcenroe - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:01 AM

      I think the point is he is going to be paid millions reagrdless. If he doesn’t want to go to a team that will force him to shave that’s his prerogative. If it somehow does start to cost the Yankees in the free agent market then I’m sure they will eventually change thier policy.

    • psuravens19 - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

      Thank you for your time served, but this is a completely different situation.

    • American of African Descent - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:18 AM

      Thank you for your service. However:

      1. If you were born in 1976, no one forced you to join the marines. When you turned 18 in 1994, the United States had a volunteer army. And if you volunteered to take a job where you had to shave your beard, that’s on you.

      2. Not everyone likes the terms and conditions of a prospective employer. In this country, employees are free to reject unpleasant terms and conditions. Isn’t that freedom what the marines fight to protect?

      3. You are only seven years older than David Price — you are part of the same so-called “younger entitlement generation.”

      • anxovies - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        That’s pretty smug, AoAD, especially for somebody who uses the word”American” in their handle.. Obviously, nobody forced you to do anything for your country and you certainly never volunteered anything. Slacker.

      • albertmn - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

        anxovies – Funny that you call someone else pretty smug, and then imply that anyone that hasn’t served in the military doesn’t measure up to your standards. Hypocrite, thy handle is anxovies

      • American of African Descent - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:18 PM

        Actually, Anxovies, I was a Peace Corps Volunteer before I joined corporate America. Thanks for playing. Are you the over-weight, balding guy I picture you as?

    • tfbuckfutter - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:19 AM

      Yeah….and you know what else? Their backwards caps and gangster rapping music…..when I was a kid we had RunDMC and wore our hats AS DESIGNED. And things were better. Kids had a little something called RESPECT.

      And whats with video games? Who needs more than 8-bits? That is enough bits for anyone.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

      David Price was born 9 years after you, so he considers you and he to be in a pretty similar, if not the exact same, “generation” LOL.

    • kirkvanhouten - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM

      “This is just another great example of the younger entitlement generation.”

      Uggg, can we let this die please? The term “entitlement generation” is one of the more ridiculous, false terms to grab hold. Guess what kids, you are less able to collect welfare benefits than your parents. You are more productive and are paid less in real dollars than your parents. You are less likely to find a job in your field of study than your parents. Yet, some douchebags still have the balls to refer to you as the “entitlement generation”?

      • Old Gator - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM

        Poor stupid Mitt and his 47%. I agree that the whole discussion is a lot of Teaspeak bullshit but man, it was worth enduring to see that number come up as his final popular vote percentage, waddn’t it?

        Anyway, the trouble with kids today has nothing to do with entitlement. The trouble with kids today is that they just don’t know how to bullshit.

      • djpostl - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:23 AM

        When they accomplish something more than bringing us the Jersey Shore I’ll change that title..til then, fuck them.

      • skids003 - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM

        Yeah, and OG could sure teach them how to BS their way to entitlements.

      • wpjohnson - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:17 PM

        I had no idea that Obama and kirkvanhouton were the same person.

      • kirkvanhouten - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM

        “I had no idea that Obama and kirkvanhouton were the same person.”

        Yes, for I must be a Presidential propagandist to recognize blatantly evident statistical that clearly spell out that this is the case.

      • paperlions - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM

        You want the younger generation to accomplish something? Maybe…I don’t know….start some wars in the name of profit for private companies? Maybe they could deregulate the trading of futures to decouple supply from demand to create artificial profits for traders….or maybe they could fuck up the economy by making horrible policies with regard to real estate and banking….or maybe they could change laws to make it easier for “american” companies to employ almost no one in the US….oh wait, those are “accomplishments” of the current generations that are 50+ yrs old….great going guys.

      • indaburg - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

        Kirk, you’re messing with the narrative. Every generation thinks that the subsequent generation is entitled and/or inferior, facts be damned.

    • sportsdrenched - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      Old Dudes have been bitching about “the younger generation” since writing cognizent sentences was a thing. Each generation does things their own way, because each generation has it’s own set of dynamics to deal with.

      David Price does his job well enough to command a premium. If he doesn’t want to shave, he’s not going to. There’s nothing wrong with that. Hell, my loser Uncle wouldn’t cut his hair for minimum wage…and he’s older than you.

      • cur68 - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM

        Shhhhh. No logic and common sense, please. This here’s a discussion built on blithering about “young people today”.

        Everyone that can’t stick to the script, cut your hair and get a job. You hippy commie.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

        Well, except the Romans were right about their kids. lol

  8. indaburg - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    That’s a beard? I thought he forgot to shave for a couple of days.

    “That’s not something I want to be a part of.” I have a sinking feeling this is foreshadowing.

    • unclemosesgreen - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM

      You know Brian Wilson and Sergio Romo’s beards used to get together and talk smack about Price’s jaw-shadowing. Beards are catty.

    • cur68 - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      I don’t mean to talk smack about your boy, Price, but look at that face. It needs some covering. I regularly walk my dog past a house with a hound cross that looks like Price. I’ve come to think of that dog as “Price”, too. He’s always at his window, baying at us mournfully as we go by.

      David Price without a “beard” (we are calling that bum-fluff on his face a “beard”, right?) would be a tragic sight. I’d cry in sympathy.

      Keep the beard, Dave. My poor ole heartstrings can only take so much.

      • indaburg - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        I cannot deny that he does look like a basset hound. You know how the progeny of mixed races are usually attractive? Sadly, Price is the exception. He just needs to fill out that beard.

      • cur68 - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

        I suggest wall paper.

  9. jfk69 - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    case closed
    Price finds peace and a boatload of $$$$$$$$$$$

  10. jaysjunkie - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    “No facial hair” policies are idiotic.

  11. biffnasty - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    not all men with mustaches are pedophiles but ALL pedophiles have a stache

    • mrfloydpink - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:23 AM

      Jerry Sandusky?

    • albertmn - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

      Who implied that is was an absolute? Nothing is ALL. It is just a perception of what can cause some people to “look” like a pedophile.

  12. number42is1 - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Cashman: David we would like you to join the New York Yankees as our Ace pitcher
    Price: While I am flattered I just cannot do it. You have this stupid facial hair policy which i just do not agree wi…
    Cashman: $200 Million

    True Story

  13. crnvic847 - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    @American of African Decent

    Check your math. 1976-1985 = 9 years

    And secondly, every job or career path is voluntary if you think about it. You don’t even have to work if you really don’t want to.

    Money talks and I’m sure if Price is offered a large sum of cash I’m sure he’d make an exception to the Yankees policies. I don’t see the Yankees changing the way they operate anytime soon.

    • amhendrick - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:36 AM

      Can’t both sides be wrong? Who cares if a guy wants to have a beard, as long as he can pitch. Likewise, whether you have to shave or not is a primary consideration in choosing your team?

    • American of African Descent - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

      Sorry. You’re right on the math. I stand by my comment that the poster is in the same generation as Price.

  14. chacochicken - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    No Beard No Price
    Know Beard Know Price

    Wait, If you outlaw beards only outlaws will have beards.

  15. anxovies - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Oh well, I guess we will have to limp along without David. Maybe he will get traded to Houston, they don’t have a facial hair policy. I don’t blame him though, that soot on his chin is so attractive.

  16. thebadguyswon - Feb 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Awesome. Good for Price.

  17. louhudson23 - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    So,J.Clowney doesn’t see what’s so special about Nick Saban, Alfonso Soriano rejects his trade to the SF Giants and now this guy has no future interest in playing for the Yankees…apparently winning just isn’t that damn important to more people than I would have believed….

    • albertmn - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

      Yankees usually win a lot of regular season games. But, one title in the last 12 years does not mean signing with the Yankees guarantees winning the World Series. Everyone always complains that players “don’t care about winning”, but winning isn’t guaranteed no matter what team you go to. Plus, why do front runners (like Yankee fans) not understand that a player may want to make a team a winner rather than just try to pile on to the big money team and hope they win? The jumping on a flashy team is working great right now for Dwight Howard in the NBA.

  18. unlost1 - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    but performance drugs are completely acceptable

  19. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    This article doesn’t matter, because as everyone knows, Felix Hernandez’s new contract is null and void per MLB and ESPN rules, and he is the full property of the New York Yankees.

  20. verlacco - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Reblogged this on Colin Thoughts and commented:
    Or because they’re the MLB’s version of the Devil…

  21. southpaw2k - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    While I get the idea of selling high on Price to get the best possible package of prospects and/or talent in exchange, I’d be pretty shocked if the Rays dealt him before July 31. And if the Rays are in a pennant chase again by that point, there would be no reason to deal him. This whole article strikes me as a non-story.

  22. albertmn - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    By the way, where is all the “trade” talk coming from. The reporter asked the leading question about the Yankees. Now, most of you seem to think this implies some deal to the Yankees. No one in the original bit said anything about an actual deal to move to the Yankees. It appears they were just talking in hypotheticals.

  23. mianfr - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Looking at this past offseason, this is only relevant if the Dodgers start implementing a similar policy.

  24. beachnbaseball - Feb 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    First of all, the title is misleading. He didn’t say he wouldn’t sign with the Yankees; he said he wouldn’t sign a long term deal with them. That’s very subjective. What constitutes long term?

    Secondly, if NY offered him a boatload of money he’d take it and he’s sign the paper. Greater players than Price have seen the barber.

    Thirdly, who says NY will ever offer him anything?

  25. themagicfanguy - Feb 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    @yourmomcalled Yes, Picasso DID have facial hair. This is a fact.

    • yourmomcalled - Feb 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      Show me a picture with Picasso having a beard or mustache.
      Are you sure you are not thinking of someone else? I have seen too many photos of him to count, and he was always shaven.

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