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Rangers “have not changed their position” on Kyle Lohse

Feb 20, 2013, 10:20 PM EDT

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Sources told FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal last week that free agent right-hander Kyle Lohse was “almost certain to sign with a team soon.” But it’s been six whole days and there is no action on that front.’s T.R. Sullivan confirmed on Wednesday evening that the Rangers “have not changed their position on their lack of interest” in Lohse, who has not attracted any offers since hitting the open market because signing him means forking over a draft pick.

Lohse posted an excellent 2.86 ERA and 1.09 WHIP in 211 innings (33 starts) last season for the Cardinals but he can probably be had on a one-year deal at this point. The 34-year-old is represented by Scott Boras.

  1. andreweac - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Why would a team sign him to a 1 year deal? Is that worth a top draft pick? Far more likely he goes for 2-3 years at $7-$10 per. More value for a team that way.

    • ultimatecardinalwarrior - Feb 21, 2013 at 7:37 AM

      If a team is a contender that needs rotation help, definitely. You have to remember that even a top 4 pick only becomes a regular contributer on an MLB squad about a quarter of the time. The respective value between 200 innings from Lohse and a prospect, which by its very definition is no sure thing, could be great. I mean, it doesn’t make sense for the Astros to sign him, but the Rangers or Nationals? Sure. Heck, even the Pirates could use him for a playoff run.

      • gibbyfan - Feb 21, 2013 at 8:23 AM

        Cards will miss him –Carp out, Waino may not work out, who know with Garcia, Lynn tailed off in the second half. He’s certainly better than Westbrook —if all goes well would provide trading flexibility with one of the younger guys

    • paperlions - Feb 21, 2013 at 7:41 AM

      A team like the Indians, who has already given up their first 2 picks, could consider a 1 year deal….but you are right, a 2-3 year deal would be better…especially if the dollars are south of $10M/year, which I highly doubt.

  2. bmoreballers - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    So what happens if a team signs him but doesn’t have a first round pick? Does it go to second round or what

    • bjbeliever - Feb 20, 2013 at 10:58 PM

      they would give up the highest pick they have, ie 2nd or 3rd round

  3. fbwangus8736 - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    My question is can a team sign Lohse this year and lose their pick. Then next year put that same tender like the Cards did on Him to gain a pick next year?

    • cardinalcrazy - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:51 AM

      This is correct, they would be able to get a pick in 2014 if they tender a contract to Lohse and he doesn’t accept. Of course knowing that no one is likely to offer you a great contract as a result of the draft pick, Lohse would more than likely accept the offer. He would be crazy not to.

      Also keep in mind, any team who trades a player throughout the season can no longer give a qualified offer and expect a draft pick as a result of the player not accepting it.

  4. losanginsight - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Loshe and his Giant arm should has signed the Cards 1yr offer.

  5. bmoreballers - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Then the braves or angels should sign him for as cheap as possible use him as back of rotation or even bullpen guy while they try to trade him and get something decent back from a team who didn’t want to fork over the pick

  6. Old Gator - Feb 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    I don’t know what the hell the MLBPA was thinking when they agreed to this procedure. Either someone just didn’t understand what they were doing and needs to be fired, or the entire association suffered a collective cerebroflatular episode then they voted.

    • dawgpoundmember - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:00 AM

      Isn’t Lohse the last player not signed that was offered a qualifying offer that didn’t accept?

      My guess is that the MLBPA thought it would be the NFL equivalent of the franchise tag. Louse had a great year last year but as we all know, at age 34, baseball players are over the cliff, not hill.

      It worked for everyone else but this one Boras client. MLB owners may have finally found a way around Boras while still pleasing MLBPA.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Feb 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM

      I don’t know what the hell the MLBPA was thinking when they agreed to this procedure.

      Why wouldn’t they agree to it? Lohse had a guaranteed $13.3M offer on the table which he refused. It’s the player’s choice if they want to chase a long term deal with no guarantee on AAV.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Feb 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM

      I don’t know specifically, but generally speaking, any Union realizes they have to give in some areas in order to collect in others. Heck, even Marvin Miller was willing to make players “indentured servants” for 3 years, knowing that teams had to have SOME sort of cost certainty somewhere.

      It helps players as a whole to have the first 3 years locked then Arbitration, then FA. But a guy who has a phenomenal rookie year then is a bust, he would have been better off to have some leverage after year 1. Same thing here – it may screw certain players, but help the players overall, as getting this as a concession made the owners willign to give in on another point

  7. albertmn - Feb 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Lohse’s problem is that he would be a short term solution at best. Teams that would stand to lose a pick don’t want to pay the price. Teams that are high enough in the draft to not lose their first round pick are too far from competing to take a chance on a short term solution like Lohse. It is a rough deal for Lohse, but I would bet that it will cause players and agents to take a far different look at signing the offer form in the future (or working on extensions with the current team for “less” than what they think their market value might be).

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