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Spring training in the Valley of the … snow?

Feb 21, 2013, 9:59 AM EDT

At least the northeast part of the valley where the Diamondbacks train:

That’s snow at Salt River Field. The Dbacks’ workouts were pushed to noon today because of it.

I tend to be critical of baseball writers who complain about the weather in Florida and Arizona while most of the rest of us freeze our kiesters off, but I’ll say this much: I arrive in Arizona six days from now. If there is snow there too I’m gonna whine about it a lot.

  1. samu0034 - Feb 21, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    You’re not?

  2. historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Sunday, it was 70* here. Yesterday, we got some fluffy snow. This morning we had thundersleet, but it’s supposed to be 60* again on Saturday. I’d take consecutive snow days over bipolar weather.

    • stlouis1baseball - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

      I hear you Philiac. It was pushing 60 degrees here on Tuesday and was TEN DEGREES yesterday morning. Just a slight swing.

    • indaburg - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:28 PM

      That’s bizarro weather.

      I visited Tiger Town this morning. I was planning tomorrow but I had a change of plans, so I went.
      I didn’t see Miggy or Prince or V or Coke (he’s my favorite Tiger– lot of heart, that guy) but I did see your ex. He said hi and looked wistful as he asked how you were.

      Tiger Town is beautiful. I wasn’t expecting much from Lakeland because there is nothing out there. Lots of strip malls. 90 minutes from a beach. 30 from Disney et al. But Joker Marchant stadium is beautiful, probably the prettiest spring training stadium I’ve seen. It looked like a Spanish hacienda. Besides Torii (who was doing sprints in the outfield and looked good), Below (who very nicely stopped for autographs for some kids), and Fister (I am about the height of one of his legs), I didn’t recognize anyone. Lots of minor leaguers. No one was hitting the ball over the practice field fences, although it is 420 to straight center. I overheard someone say that yesterday, Verlander put on quite the pitching show and that he looked pumped. So, he’s clearly ready.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:36 PM

        Awwww, thanks woman. It’s going to be hard seeing him all season after the way things ended, but it was the right thing to do.

        FYI, V likes to hit Taco Bell before he pitches, so if you catch one of their training games when he’s up, stake out the local franchise for a sighting. It was his birthday yesterday.

    • Caught Looking - Feb 21, 2013 at 4:30 PM

      Definitely an unusual sighting in the desert:

  3. fanofevilempire - Feb 21, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    man up Craig, you have such a tough life………….

    No trip to Florida…………….

  4. 2077james - Feb 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Not a problem for all those gritty players of theirs.

  5. darthicarus - Feb 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    I’m sure Biogenesis is involved in this somehow.

    • badintent - Feb 23, 2013 at 2:56 AM

      Nah, Global warming is all on big AL and Lenardo. This snow is a mirage in the desert. Al said so and he invented the Internet…… all by himself.

  6. riverace19 - Feb 21, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    CC you are so freaked out by the prospect of snow you forgot how to write complete sentences… If there is snow there too.
    C’mon Man, don’t you have a degree or something?

  7. cur68 - Feb 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Change your plans. Go to Florida instead. According to intelligence received there’s no snow and you are in swooning distance of Jose Bautista.

    • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      And MVP MIggy!

      • cur68 - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        There are some downsides, yes.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM


        /throws snow cone

      • cur68 - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM

        Well, according to sources, Miggy only answers questions with a “Si” or a “No” and he isn’t terribly respectful when he does. He insinuates some awful things about one’s family, I hear. Also, according to teammates, he isn’t much of a leader, so he’ll be at the back of the crowd and difficult to get to. I suspect such an interview would leave one wishing one were hip deep in snow with Kirk Gibson.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM

        Well, you know, he’s shy about his English (see his MVP award interview), but as an update, Dotel has now apologized to Miggy & the team for his comments about not being a leader. (But fans know that was really V-Mart anyway.)

      • cur68 - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM

        He’s shy about his English? Really? I didn’t know that. Mind you his facility with the local vernacular probably masks some of his difficulties.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

        In fairness, my swearing is better than my regular Gringo. 😉

      • cur68 - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM

        I hear ya. Same could be said of me. In fact, according to sources on this very blog I rely on a thesaurus and dictionary for even the most basic conversations. There appears to be a soupçon of ignorance in my every post. sigh

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM

        My favorite part of that troll attempt was that he purported to want a conversation about moral choices…and then degenerated into insults. Now, it’s been awhile since I read the Ethics, but I do not recall that being one of Aristotle’s virtues.

      • cur68 - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:50 PM

        That’s what bugged me too. There you were: both with good points and in a civilized and philosophical debate on personal ethos of wealth and he had to get all ad hominem. That’s a fail, right there.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM

        That’s why I just side-stepped having that conversation seriously with him…which he apparently didn’t get (and also that I thought his view was simplistic). But, I did enjoy getting called a petulant child for being anti-materialistic. You know, all the major religions favor vows of wealth and gross materialism. I’m a heathen that way.

      • indaburg - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        I’m just catching up. Looks like I missed something good this morning.

        You don’t remember Aristotle calling Plato a motherf*cker?

      • cur68 - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:48 PM

        Thats a conversation from the “ARod’s House For Sale” post two days ago. Me & ‘philliac are still sniffling over how we were put in our place by a true Übermensch. I got called out for a cedilla.

        /puffs up chest and struts around

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

        Yeah, cur’s mad cuz the dude told him where to stick his monocle. I’m like a non-greedy wench or something. Basically, I am too stupid for Joel Osteen.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

        Of course, now I have it on record that cur & I are friends. :)

      • indaburg - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM

        Ah, I just went and read the follow-up to that thread. That all went down while I worked on my killer fantasy spreadsheet. Sheesh, what a presumptuous jerk-off. I might disagree with ‘philiac on some minor things (rum, bacon, bread pudding, rich people homes can be messy as hell if I were to live in one) but I would never debate that she’s one sharp cookie. And as for you, if he knew you, he would know that you don’t rely on a thesaurus for comments. He would know that you need one so you could get some synonyms for the word “soupçon.” 😉

      • cur68 - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM

        If he knew me he’d call me out for egregious ignorance of the Mountain Time Zone.

    • indaburg - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      There is no snow here. No sir. That’s what those teams get for leaving Florida.

      Craig has an anti-Florida bias to go along with his anti-Phillies bias. Seriously, he hates Florida. Something to do with a childhood friend who moved to Florida and was in a bad situation. He has a Pavlovian response against Floida because he associates it with his friend’s misfortune. It’s a shame. The state has its absurdities, but it definitely has its charm. How bad can a place be that Gator calls home?

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:42 PM

        And I see you are taking the Medicaid expansion after all.

      • indaburg - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM

        Yep, the reptile finally caved in. He also agreed to an overdue and sorely needed salary increase for teachers recently. Someone is just a teeny bit worried about his political future. And he should worry.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM

        We are not to be so lucky — on either account. But they’re talking about a tax cut…so we can buy our own better roads, street lights, fire trucks and various and sundry formerly-public goods on the private market. 😦

      • indaburg - Feb 21, 2013 at 4:52 PM

        Ugh. Time to move? I hear Michigan is nice and chilly this time of the year. They could use some help with that labor fighting.

        Out of curiosity, why the D? Other than ye olde English D and the cool colors?

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 4:57 PM

        My mother’s family is from Michigan and my grandfather was a RHP w/ the Tigers organization. That’s the family team (although SOME PEOPLE who moved to Texas have become Rangers fans as well).

      • indaburg - Feb 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM

        THOSE people are clearly traitors.

        How far did your grandpa get? I had an uncle (by marriage) who was an outfielder in the majors in the 60s. Sad case though. He lost what little money he made and became an alcoholic afterwards. He scared the crap out of me when I was a kid.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM

        He climbed the ladder in the minors but didn’t quite make the bigs. He blew out his liver. It’s stereotypically Irish, I know. That was back in the late 30’s/early 40’s. He played independent league too for a bit. I have a great newspaper article about a riot in the stands at a game he played for the Atlanta Crackers. lol I’m really surprised that none of my seven uncles played. You do NOT call the family during Series week unless it’s an emergency.

      • jwbiii - Feb 21, 2013 at 6:28 PM

        Craig anti-Florida? I remember him writing a compare and contrast post for the Florida and Arizona spring training experiences. IIRC, Florida was better because the cities are smaller and the natives are more into it. Waffle House waitresses in St. Lucie wearing Mets caps and things of that nature. Arizona was better because the sites are closer together. This is important if you’re tasked with seeing as many teams as possible or following your own team when it plays road games. All considered, it seemed balanced and that I would prefer Florida.

      • indaburg - Feb 21, 2013 at 7:21 PM

        This is what I was referring to:

      • jwbiii - Feb 21, 2013 at 8:50 PM

        Fair enough. I was referring to this

      • indaburg - Feb 22, 2013 at 12:05 AM

        Thanks, I hadn’t seen that post. Maybe he now sees some of Florida’s quirky charm and no longer associates it with sadness.

  8. sdelmonte - Feb 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Hey, if baseball is determined to have both NYC teams at home on April 1, then spring training should include snow.

  9. manchestermiracle - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    You can call it “spring” training all you want, but it’s still February, a.k.a. “winter.” And no, I don’t care whether or not Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow, just whether or not he can hit a curveball. And he’ll have to play DH in the AL, ’cause his range of motion sucks…

    • historiophiliac - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      Yeah, well, if we can startle him at the right moment, he’ll be a hell of a base stealer.

  10. pinkfloydprism - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    I love how the “snow” here in the Valley turned all the roads into demolition derby courses.

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