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	<title>Comments on: Spring training in the Valley of the &#8230; snow?</title>
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		<title>By: badintent</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-446781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[badintent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nah, Global warming is all on big AL and Lenardo. This snow is a mirage in the desert. Al said so and he invented the Internet...... all by himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, Global warming is all on big AL and Lenardo. This snow is a mirage in the desert. Al said so and he invented the Internet&#8230;&#8230; all by himself.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-446043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, I hadn&#039;t seen that post. Maybe he now sees some of Florida&#039;s quirky charm and no longer associates it with sadness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I hadn&#8217;t seen that post. Maybe he now sees some of Florida&#8217;s quirky charm and no longer associates it with sadness.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-446009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair enough. I was referring to this
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/the-first-difference-ive-noticed-between-florida-and-arizona/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. I was referring to this<br />
<a href="http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/the-first-difference-ive-noticed-between-florida-and-arizona/" rel="nofollow">http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/the-first-difference-ive-noticed-between-florida-and-arizona/</a></p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445990</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is what I was referring to: 

http://craigcalcaterra.blogspot.com/2010/02/fear-and-loathing-in-sunshine-state.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I was referring to: </p>
<p><a href="http://craigcalcaterra.blogspot.com/2010/02/fear-and-loathing-in-sunshine-state.html" rel="nofollow">http://craigcalcaterra.blogspot.com/2010/02/fear-and-loathing-in-sunshine-state.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445974</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig anti-Florida? I remember him writing a compare and contrast post for the Florida and Arizona spring training experiences. IIRC, Florida was better because the cities are smaller and the natives are more into it. Waffle House waitresses in St. Lucie wearing Mets caps and things of that nature. Arizona was better because the sites are closer together. This is important if you&#039;re tasked with seeing as many teams as possible or following your own team when it plays road games. All considered, it seemed balanced and that I would prefer Florida.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig anti-Florida? I remember him writing a compare and contrast post for the Florida and Arizona spring training experiences. IIRC, Florida was better because the cities are smaller and the natives are more into it. Waffle House waitresses in St. Lucie wearing Mets caps and things of that nature. Arizona was better because the sites are closer together. This is important if you&#8217;re tasked with seeing as many teams as possible or following your own team when it plays road games. All considered, it seemed balanced and that I would prefer Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He climbed the ladder in the minors but didn&#039;t quite make the bigs.  He blew out his liver.  It&#039;s stereotypically Irish, I know.  That was back in the late 30&#039;s/early 40&#039;s.  He played independent league too for a bit.  I have a great newspaper article about a riot in the stands at a game he played for the Atlanta Crackers.  lol  I&#039;m really surprised that none of my seven uncles played.  You do NOT call the family during Series week unless it&#039;s an emergency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He climbed the ladder in the minors but didn&#8217;t quite make the bigs.  He blew out his liver.  It&#8217;s stereotypically Irish, I know.  That was back in the late 30&#8242;s/early 40&#8242;s.  He played independent league too for a bit.  I have a great newspaper article about a riot in the stands at a game he played for the Atlanta Crackers.  lol  I&#8217;m really surprised that none of my seven uncles played.  You do NOT call the family during Series week unless it&#8217;s an emergency.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445947</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THOSE people are clearly traitors. 

How far did your grandpa get? I had an uncle (by marriage) who was an outfielder in the majors in the 60s. Sad case though. He lost what little money he made and became an alcoholic afterwards. He scared the crap out of me when I was a kid. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THOSE people are clearly traitors. </p>
<p>How far did your grandpa get? I had an uncle (by marriage) who was an outfielder in the majors in the 60s. Sad case though. He lost what little money he made and became an alcoholic afterwards. He scared the crap out of me when I was a kid. </p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mother&#039;s family is from Michigan and my grandfather was a RHP w/ the Tigers organization.  That&#039;s the family team (although SOME PEOPLE who moved to Texas have become Rangers fans as well).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother&#8217;s family is from Michigan and my grandfather was a RHP w/ the Tigers organization.  That&#8217;s the family team (although SOME PEOPLE who moved to Texas have become Rangers fans as well).</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ugh. Time to move? I hear Michigan is nice and chilly this time of the year. They could use some help with that labor fighting. 

Out of curiosity, why the D? Other than ye olde English D and the cool colors?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh. Time to move? I hear Michigan is nice and chilly this time of the year. They could use some help with that labor fighting. </p>
<p>Out of curiosity, why the D? Other than ye olde English D and the cool colors?</p>
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		<title>By: Caught Looking</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caught Looking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely an unusual sighting in the desert:

http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/666158.jpg

http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/666249.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely an unusual sighting in the desert:</p>
<p><a href="http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/666158.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/666158.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/666249.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/666249.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are not to be so lucky -- on either account.  But they&#039;re talking about a tax cut...so we can buy our own better roads, street lights, fire trucks and various and sundry formerly-public goods on the private market. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not to be so lucky &#8212; on either account.  But they&#8217;re talking about a tax cut&#8230;so we can buy our own better roads, street lights, fire trucks and various and sundry formerly-public goods on the private market. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, the reptile finally caved in. He also agreed to an overdue and sorely needed salary increase for teachers recently. Someone is just a teeny bit worried about his political future. And he should worry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the reptile finally caved in. He also agreed to an overdue and sorely needed salary increase for teachers recently. Someone is just a teeny bit worried about his political future. And he should worry.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I see you are taking the Medicaid expansion after all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I see you are taking the Medicaid expansion after all.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he knew me he&#039;d call me out for egregious ignorance of the Mountain Time Zone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he knew me he&#8217;d call me out for egregious ignorance of the Mountain Time Zone.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, now I have it on record that cur &amp; I are friends. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, now I have it on record that cur &amp; I are friends. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445820</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, cur&#039;s mad cuz the dude told him where to stick his monocle.  I&#039;m like a non-greedy wench or something.  Basically, I am too stupid for Joel Osteen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, cur&#8217;s mad cuz the dude told him where to stick his monocle.  I&#8217;m like a non-greedy wench or something.  Basically, I am too stupid for Joel Osteen.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, I just went and read the follow-up to that thread. That all went down while I worked on my killer fantasy spreadsheet. Sheesh, what a presumptuous jerk-off. I might disagree with &#039;philiac on some minor things (rum, bacon, bread pudding, rich people homes can be messy as hell if I were to live in one) but I would never debate that she&#039;s one sharp cookie. And as for you, if he knew you, he would know that you don&#039;t rely on a thesaurus for comments. He would know that you need one so you could get some synonyms for the word &quot;soupçon.&quot; ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I just went and read the follow-up to that thread. That all went down while I worked on my killer fantasy spreadsheet. Sheesh, what a presumptuous jerk-off. I might disagree with &#8216;philiac on some minor things (rum, bacon, bread pudding, rich people homes can be messy as hell if I were to live in one) but I would never debate that she&#8217;s one sharp cookie. And as for you, if he knew you, he would know that you don&#8217;t rely on a thesaurus for comments. He would know that you need one so you could get some synonyms for the word &#8220;soupçon.&#8221; <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats a conversation from the &quot;ARod&#039;s House For Sale&quot; post two days ago. Me &amp; &#039;philliac are still sniffling over how  we were put in our place by a true Übermensch. I got called out for a cedilla. 

/puffs up chest and struts around]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a conversation from the &#8220;ARod&#8217;s House For Sale&#8221; post two days ago. Me &amp; &#8216;philliac are still sniffling over how  we were put in our place by a true Übermensch. I got called out for a cedilla. </p>
<p>/puffs up chest and struts around</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just catching up. Looks like I missed something good this morning.

You don&#039;t remember Aristotle calling Plato a motherf*cker?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just catching up. Looks like I missed something good this morning.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t remember Aristotle calling Plato a motherf*cker?</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no snow here. No sir. That&#039;s what those teams get for leaving Florida.

Craig has an anti-Florida bias to go along with his anti-Phillies bias. Seriously, he hates Florida. Something to do with a childhood friend who moved to Florida and was in a bad situation. He has a Pavlovian response against Floida because he associates it with his friend&#039;s misfortune. It&#039;s a shame. The state has its absurdities, but it definitely has its charm. How bad can a place be that Gator calls home?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no snow here. No sir. That&#8217;s what those teams get for leaving Florida.</p>
<p>Craig has an anti-Florida bias to go along with his anti-Phillies bias. Seriously, he hates Florida. Something to do with a childhood friend who moved to Florida and was in a bad situation. He has a Pavlovian response against Floida because he associates it with his friend&#8217;s misfortune. It&#8217;s a shame. The state has its absurdities, but it definitely has its charm. How bad can a place be that Gator calls home?</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/21/spring-training-in-the-valley-of-the-snow/comment-page-1/#comment-445772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awwww, thanks woman.  It&#039;s going to be hard seeing him all season after the way things ended, but it was the right thing to do.

FYI, V likes to hit Taco Bell before he pitches, so if you catch one of their training games when he&#039;s up, stake out the local franchise for a sighting.  It was his birthday yesterday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awwww, thanks woman.  It&#8217;s going to be hard seeing him all season after the way things ended, but it was the right thing to do.</p>
<p>FYI, V likes to hit Taco Bell before he pitches, so if you catch one of their training games when he&#8217;s up, stake out the local franchise for a sighting.  It was his birthday yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s bizarro weather. 

I visited Tiger Town this morning. I was planning tomorrow but I had a change of plans, so I went.
I didn&#039;t see Miggy or Prince or V or Coke (he&#039;s my favorite Tiger-- lot of heart, that guy)  but I did see your ex. He said hi and looked wistful as he asked how you were.

Tiger Town is beautiful. I wasn&#039;t expecting much from Lakeland because there is nothing out there. Lots of strip malls. 90 minutes from a beach. 30 from Disney et al. But Joker Marchant stadium is beautiful, probably the prettiest spring training stadium I&#039;ve seen. It looked like a Spanish hacienda. Besides Torii (who was doing sprints in the outfield and looked good), Below (who very nicely stopped for autographs for some kids), and Fister (I am about the height of one of his legs), I didn&#039;t recognize anyone. Lots of minor leaguers. No one was hitting the ball over the practice field fences, although it is 420 to straight center. I overheard someone say that yesterday, Verlander put on quite the pitching show and that he looked pumped. So, he&#039;s clearly ready.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s bizarro weather. </p>
<p>I visited Tiger Town this morning. I was planning tomorrow but I had a change of plans, so I went.<br />
I didn&#8217;t see Miggy or Prince or V or Coke (he&#8217;s my favorite Tiger&#8211; lot of heart, that guy)  but I did see your ex. He said hi and looked wistful as he asked how you were.</p>
<p>Tiger Town is beautiful. I wasn&#8217;t expecting much from Lakeland because there is nothing out there. Lots of strip malls. 90 minutes from a beach. 30 from Disney et al. But Joker Marchant stadium is beautiful, probably the prettiest spring training stadium I&#8217;ve seen. It looked like a Spanish hacienda. Besides Torii (who was doing sprints in the outfield and looked good), Below (who very nicely stopped for autographs for some kids), and Fister (I am about the height of one of his legs), I didn&#8217;t recognize anyone. Lots of minor leaguers. No one was hitting the ball over the practice field fences, although it is 420 to straight center. I overheard someone say that yesterday, Verlander put on quite the pitching show and that he looked pumped. So, he&#8217;s clearly ready.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s why I just side-stepped having that conversation seriously with him...which he apparently didn&#039;t get (and also that I thought his view was simplistic).  But, I did enjoy getting called a petulant child for being anti-materialistic.  You know, all the major religions favor vows of wealth and gross materialism.  I&#039;m a heathen that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I just side-stepped having that conversation seriously with him&#8230;which he apparently didn&#8217;t get (and also that I thought his view was simplistic).  But, I did enjoy getting called a petulant child for being anti-materialistic.  You know, all the major religions favor vows of wealth and gross materialism.  I&#8217;m a heathen that way.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s what bugged me too. There you were: both with good points and in a civilized and philosophical debate on personal ethos of wealth and he had to get all ad hominem. That&#039;s a fail, right there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what bugged me too. There you were: both with good points and in a civilized and philosophical debate on personal ethos of wealth and he had to get all ad hominem. That&#8217;s a fail, right there.</p>
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		<title>By: pinkfloydprism</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love how the &quot;snow&quot; here in the Valley turned all the roads into demolition derby courses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how the &#8220;snow&#8221; here in the Valley turned all the roads into demolition derby courses.</p>
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		<title>By: stlouis1baseball</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear you Philiac.  It was pushing 60 degrees here on Tuesday and was TEN DEGREES yesterday morning.  Just a slight swing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you Philiac.  It was pushing 60 degrees here on Tuesday and was TEN DEGREES yesterday morning.  Just a slight swing.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, well, if we can startle him at the right moment, he&#039;ll be a hell of a base stealer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, well, if we can startle him at the right moment, he&#8217;ll be a hell of a base stealer.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My favorite part of that troll attempt was that he purported to want a conversation about moral choices...and then degenerated into insults.  Now, it&#039;s been awhile since I read the Ethics, but I do not recall that being one of Aristotle&#039;s virtues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of that troll attempt was that he purported to want a conversation about moral choices&#8230;and then degenerated into insults.  Now, it&#8217;s been awhile since I read the Ethics, but I do not recall that being one of Aristotle&#8217;s virtues.</p>
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		<title>By: manchestermiracle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can call it &quot;spring&quot; training all you want, but it&#039;s still February, a.k.a. &quot;winter.&quot; And no, I don&#039;t care whether or not Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow, just whether or not he can hit a curveball. And he&#039;ll have to play DH in the AL, &#039;cause his range of motion sucks...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can call it &#8220;spring&#8221; training all you want, but it&#8217;s still February, a.k.a. &#8220;winter.&#8221; And no, I don&#8217;t care whether or not Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow, just whether or not he can hit a curveball. And he&#8217;ll have to play DH in the AL, &#8217;cause his range of motion sucks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear ya. Same could be said of me. In fact, according to sources on this very blog I rely on a thesaurus and dictionary for even the most basic conversations. There appears to be a soupçon of ignorance in my every post. &lt;i&gt;sigh&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear ya. Same could be said of me. In fact, according to sources on this very blog I rely on a thesaurus and dictionary for even the most basic conversations. There appears to be a soupçon of ignorance in my every post. <i>sigh</i></p>
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