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Jeff Loria speaks unscripted, doesn’t do too much better

Feb 26, 2013, 8:23 AM EDT

Jeffrey Loria

For the first time in months, Jeff Loria met the press. He did so at last night’s Marlins game. Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post has a detailed rundown of the interview. This was a the highlight for me. Loria was asked if he realizes fans hate him:

I have a sense of it. I’m sorry that we’ve built this amazing ballpark and fans are feeling the way they do but we did this for a reason – we weren’t going anywhere and I think anybody who is a baseball person will realize that after two years that we had, we had to do something. We had to do something quickly and swiftly and bold.

The phrase “… we’ve built this amazing ballpark and …” in between “I’m sorry” and “fans feeling the way we do” pretty much sums it up. He may have well just called everyone ingrates. Of course he left out the part where those fans (a) paid for the ballpark against their will; (b) were duped into “a whole new Marlins” thing, complete with all that new merchandise the team sold last year; and (c) were then treated to another talent liquidation.

Beyond that, Loria gives his side of the story regarding Jose Reyes‘ claim that Loria told him to buy a house in Miami a couple of days before he was traded. He-said-he-said, I suppose.

He also notes that the Marlins will not be making a long term offer to Giancarlo Stanton this season. Which isn’t the most surprising thing in the world given that he’s not yet arbitration eligible. But since this is the Marlins and they’ll trade anyone at anytime, it leaves the door open for him to be traded.

  1. uyf1950 - Feb 26, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    Even IF the Marlins made a long term offer to Stanton he would be a complete idiot to accept an offer from Loria. That’s just my opinion.

    • skeleteeth - Feb 26, 2013 at 8:40 AM

      Well you obviously need to go back to Baseball Person School for your lack of empathy for rich people running a business poorly.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Feb 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM

      He would be an idiot to accept it on the premise that he would be staying in Miami – but otherwise, he should judge any offer on its merit, and based on what he wants to do with regards to Free Agency

      • Kleinz 57 - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:12 AM

        Jeff Loria is NOT in the best shape of his life.

    • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:26 AM

      Neither is the Macondo municipal budget. Not coincidental.

    • cosanostra71 - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

      My favorite part is that the way the article is written, it would appear that Loria was calling him Mike Stanton until the reporter subtly reminded him that he has returned to going by Giancarlo.

  2. Kevin S. - Feb 26, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    I’d argue that even if they did lock him up to a longterm deal it’d still leave the door open to him being traded.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM

      (sarcasm font) Name the last time the Marlins ever signed high profile All Star to a lucrative conract, the traded him?

  3. chacochicken - Feb 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    There is something amusing about his shallow attempts at defending his actions as if he simultaneously wants to be loved while continuing to exploit the fan base and city. Good for you smarmy used car salesman Jeff.

    • paperlions - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:18 AM

      That’s not really any different than any other big business. Banks want you to view them as doing you a favor by loaning you money or “allowing” you to store your money with them, while generally doing everything they can to squeeze every dollar out of you in return. The oil industry wants to be viewed as providing jobs and valuable resources while deriving all of the profits and paying none of the costs of the pollution and environmental damage their product and activities cost.

      • chacochicken - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM

        Sure, but they employ public relations agencies and run commercials. Jeff is just throwing it out there as if 1) I’m Jeff Loria and I’m above the law 2) my fans are stupid 3) I’m too cheap to actually spend money on a PR scrubbing. Rarely is the villain also the mouthpiece.

      • paperlions - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        Yep, most people that are screwing the public over plan for backlash and try to diffuse it (i.e. shift blame) before it becomes clear that people are being screwed. Loria is completely artless in that regard, for which I thank him.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

        So you enjoy Loria’s dirty talk?

      • cur68 - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:41 AM

        Its the same way ‘Lion’s likes his martinis. Extra olive juice, please!

      • historiophiliac - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

        Man, the way my day has started, I could already go for one of those.

      • paperlions - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM

        If I could just get Scarlett Johansson to bring me my martini’s and ask me “Is that dirty enough for you?”, I’d be a happy man.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 26, 2013 at 1:59 PM

        Don’t lie.

  4. randygnyc - Feb 26, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Stanton should sign the biggest deal he can get as soon as he can. First of all, getting guaranteed money, it removes the uncertainty of injuries from the equation. More importantly, though, is that Stanton knows that at some point, sooner or later, he will be traded. With no deal on place, literally any team with the biggest/best trade package could be a contender for his services. Without a substantial contract, the team trading for him will probably be giving up substantial players. With that said, that team is now incentivized to keep stanton’s pay as low as possible to offset the purged talent. Equally as important, with a substantial contract, stanton can atleast have a better chance of being traded to a team that can afford to pay for the big contract (usually large market teams and are often contenders). The higher the guaranteed money, the smaller the pool of teams that might be interested (good for Stanton, bad for the marlins). For this reason alone, the marlins won’t give him the big deal. The long suffering teams usually have the best prospects to trade.

  5. thepittsburghkid - Feb 26, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Stanton is going to talk so much ish on the Marlins organization once he’s traded, I’m sure the stories will be amazing.

    • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:28 AM

      I don’t think so. At least, I hope not. I think he could be forgiven for his midweenter outburst when the big evisceration went down, but he’s taken the high road since then and I get the feeling that’s the road to which he’s most accustomed.

  6. indaburg - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    This man is so loathsome. He makes my skin crawl and my stomach turn. I want to slap my iPad after reading that load of horseshit.

    He doesn’t take an iota of responsibility. None. No self-reflection. “I’m sorry”… “the fans feeling the way they do.” Why do you think they feel the way they do, dipshit? It’s like the asshole who insults you and then tries to apologize by saying “I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings.” F*** you and your stupid apology. Just shut up, Loria. If you’re not going away, just shut up and crawl back into your self-delusional hole. I didn’t think it was possible, but you’re only making things worse.

    Phew. I don’t know about you, but I feel better now.

    • paperlions - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:21 AM

      All very true….but it isn’t like anyone in a position of power (politically or economically) has stepped up and taken responsibility for the disaster that is the current world economy….and it didn’t get there with out a lot of help from people in positions of power being greedy approximately 100% of the time. No reason to isolate Loria in that regard, he’s pretty much standard issue, just horrible at PR.

      • indaburg - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:19 AM

        If I could give him credit for one tiny little thing, at least he isn’t just telling us what we want to hear.

    • unclemosesgreen - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:33 AM

      ‘slap my iPad’ – hee hee

      I’ve heard – tastes so good it makes me want to slap my momma – but not that. Whatever makes you feel better. Plus he doesn’t own the Rays – so you’ve got that going for you. BTW I still start typing Devil in front of Rays every time.

      • indaburg - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

        I always start typing “Rats.” Is it my subconscious, or the stupid keyboard?

    • nbjays - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:36 AM

      Don’t hold back Burgie… tell us how you really feel 😀

    • historiophiliac - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:50 AM

      Maybe a flash mob should show up at his next appearance and do a little rendition of Cee Lo Green’s “F- You”!

    • cur68 - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM

      I’m glad you’re feeling better. Don’t go hurting your iPad over Jeff Loria, though.

    • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      Yeah, indie, but at least he “has a sense” that the fans hate his guts. To bad Copozzi didn’t ask the next logical question: “Do you give a flying fuck at a rolling donut that they hate you?” That answer I would love to have heard.

      Incidentally, that interview, and Scrooge McLoria’s infestation of last night’s game, along with that grotesquely dilated open letter to fans of the other morning, are apparently details of a bigger peecture. He Who Must Be Obeyed is also scheduled to participate in a round of other interviews, appearances and meetings with players over the next couple of days. It’s an opportunity for Scrooge to display his wide range of public relations ineptitude at the outset of this season’s lost planet expedition, and maybe to boost that humiliating ticket line by two or three more gullible fans and maybe even a tourist or two.

      And of course if a tourist shows up and the Quark Squad (I just christened the hapless Feesh PR team that because of their propensity to spin) gets ahold of him – some poor Franco-Quebecois who got lost looking for a highly recommended cafe Cubano in the neighborhood – just watch them use him to demonstrate that the tourist tax money is being used for what it was meant to be used for.

      • cur68 - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

        I’m hoping that any Franco-Quebecois might also be fans of The Expos and will remember exactly who was responsible for the demise of that franchise. It is my fond hope that Jeffy gets a good earful of that PO’d Franglish that was popularized by Les Separatist Parti Québécois. They’d finally be doing The Homeland a service.

      • indaburg - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:31 AM

        That’s what I was thinking, cur. The Franco-Quebecois would likely respond, “Va te faire foutre, Loria!”

  7. Marty - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    I’d burn my gear.

  8. datdangdrewdundunituhgin - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    again, this guy throws players, fans & (indirectly) upper management under the bus for prior years. all while absolving himself. i get the feeling he actually looks at himself as a martyr of sorts, with the excuses for the silence and the “woe is me, i had to break it up” attitude. if so, it speaks levels to his wildly inflated ego, and his incompetence in running a team. there are plenty of teams that don’t strip a club to bones while in a rebuild. he seems to favor that tactic evidenced by the buherle excuse (too much $$). look, as its his money and team, he’s free to do what he wants. as long as he understands that the people who invest their own dollars into his business have the same right. he doesn’t seem to get that, as his constant dissing of the fanbase’s intelligence indicates.

    f*** this guy. i hope his stadium sits empty all year long. and no, it’s not the current player’s faults but why should anyone give this guy a nickel of their time or money when he just spent the last 8 months cramming his middle finger in their faces.

  9. andreweac - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Heck of a job Brownie… Err Loria…

  10. unclemosesgreen - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    Loria: “I got a few silly phone calls.”

    Then Gator’s burn phone ran out of minutes.

    • aceshigh11 - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:33 AM


      • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

        I don’t use a phone. Every see Scanners? I try to use my awesome mutant powers responsibly.

        No, not really. Only kidding. Responsibility is for children, who are horrible. However, a recent Ouija Scrabble partner of mine, who identified himself as Haman (he had cookies), explained to me that there’s always the possibility that if Scrooge McLoria’s head were suddenly and inexplicably to explode, the Chihuahua would gaze upon the scene like Kakihara in Ichi the Killer and mutter noncommitally “This is really something,” then take over the team and impose a financial regime that would embarrass the Minister of Finance of Zimbabwe.

        Like I said, responsibly, But I too can only be pushed so far….

      • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:53 AM

        PS – I want to use my powers for good, by the way. Splattering Scrooge McLoria’s head all over the place might have long term toxic implications for the place. “Don’t touch it! That’s concentrated evil!”

        And in the interests of good, I want to remember Chris Fiorentino’s well taken point that baseball is the important thing, finally, and yes, there was baseball last night. The Bravos mishandled poor John Maine who gave up two more home runs after his primary competitor for the five slot, Wade LeBlank, leblanked Fat Fredi’s warriors from the north for his two innings of work. The Feesh scoring was led by, okay, ready, remember….Chris Coghlan!?, who had a couple of hits and scored a run while trying desperate to prove that he’s still worth something to someone, and by Feesh scrapheap peeckup Alfredo Silverio, the bionic piscid, who seems to be recovering nicely from his car crash a year or so ago and has as many moving parts made of rayon and carbon composites as gristle and cartilage, went two for five in the degrading role of designatedheeter and drove in a run. I’m gonna be watching this guy carefully to see how well he does and try to anticipate how long the Feesh will hold onto him if he reaches the full potential folks expected of him before his irresistible force met an immovable object on some godforsaken cow path in the Dominican.

        Well, yeah, it could have been worse – he could have gone into a pond on Martha’s Vineyard.

      • pauleee - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

        +1 For the Ichi the Killer reference.

      • unclemosesgreen - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM

        Awesome mutuant powers should be used awesomely.

        You should watch out for that Haman – I’m pretty sure he means you ill.

        ‘Do you take me for a fool – do you think that I don’t see – that 75-foot spike in the courtyard – Haman set up just for me.’

      • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:15 AM

        I know, I know…but the cookies….would there be poppyseed filling without him?

      • unclemosesgreen - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM

        Don’t let his “yiddish delight” fool you. This is how it starts. First he comes for Three-Finger Brown …

  11. paperlions - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    I love the “It’s called hit the re-start button because it didn’t damn work.” comment…, I can assume then that after one year of not winning baseball games with a bunch of kids, he will hit the re-start button again and decide to sign some talent because not having talent also doesn’t “damn work”.

    • historiophiliac - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM

      Well, the Etch-a-Sketch thing was taken.

      • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

        Etch-a-Sketch! I want one for Chanukah!

  12. plmathfoto - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    “I think anybody who is a baseball person will realize that after two years that we had”

    First of all, using I think is funny, but where did they give it two years? Looked like half a yearish to me.

  13. unlost1 - Feb 26, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    idiot gave up triple crown winner Cabrera for these:Dallas Trahern, Burke Badenhop, Eulogio De La Cruz, Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller and Mike Rabelo.

    • historiophiliac - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:47 AM

      Thank you.

  14. hisgirlgotburrelled - Feb 26, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    The whole tone he has with this “baseball people,” like the Marlins fans, anyone from the area, the media, you all shouldn’t have an opinion because this is baseball and you’re not a baseball person, and the “baseball people” agree with him, so you’re wrong. Well, your “baseball people” are fucking idiots.

  15. Chris Fiorentino - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    I was going to respond, but then I realized why waste the time when HBT is so totally biased against the guy that it isn’t even worth the energy.

    It’s easier to simply type “Jeff Luria is Satan” and then go back to my coding.

    • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

      Chris, can’t you code “Loria” and get the spelling right just for once? “Luria” was a sixteenth century levantine Kabbalist: “Loria” is a nineteenth century railroad baron who currents ruins the Feesh:

      • Chris Fiorentino - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM

        Yeah, we have a football owner in my town named Jeffrey Lurie and I have been getting the spelling of their names wrong the last couple days. I know I probably made your eyes bleed…I hate reading spelling mistakes so I have to eat crap when I make them myself.

        I may be the only person on this website…possibly in the world…who feels like starting the expression “Leave Jeff Loria Alone!!!!!”

      • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM

        Only because jimmythemarlinsfan would start the expression “Bring frankincense and myrrh and let us honor the Scrooge child!” Yours would look too passive by comparison.

      • FrustratedDolFan - Feb 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

        OG…you beat me to the punch on this one! Chris after yesterday I would of thought you could get his name right by now.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Feb 26, 2013 at 1:09 PM

        OG, would you at least give me this much……Loria is a better owner than either David Glass(Royals) and Kevin McClatchy(Pirates) if not for anything than for the fact that at least, for one season(2012) he gave it a shot and spent 9-figures on his payroll. Whereas, the Pirates had a ballpark built for them in 2001, upped their payroll to a whopping $57 million in 2001, and since then, they have averaged around $45 million in payroll per year. And the pathetic Royals haven’t even been to the playoffs since 1985.

        All I am saying is WHERE’S the outrage on HBT over those owners??? Seems to me HBT gets their teeth into one guy…last year it was McCourt and now this year it is Loria…and they don’t care what the argument is, this guy has to go.

        Yet, I haven’t ever read an HBT comment that said that Glass or McClatchy must go. That they are killing MLB. That they are terrible owners.


      • Old Gator - Feb 26, 2013 at 3:58 PM

        Ackcherley, I think it’s because McCourt attracted attention with his bankruptcy, his crazy wife, her astrologer (or whatever he was) and his Brobdingnagian TV deal problem. Scrooge McLoria attracted attention with his spectacular ripoff and financial overscrewing of the community which was supposed to serve as his market, plus his twin blowups of his team a mere six years apart, his shipping out of his stars time after time, his Chihuahua’s fecalspeak about “market corrections” and mocking of the politicians he had just flimflammed (and through them, the community he had just screwed) – plus, he’s wearing the shoes of prior team vandals like Huizinga and taking shit for its abandonment under Henry. Yes, I admit, part of the criticism of Scrooge McLoria is perhaps an unfair imposition of criticism deserved by his predecessors. But hey, the sins of the fathers and all.

        In other words, Scrooge stuck his head up, as did McCourt. McClatchey and Glass keep theirs down. When they do something equally spectacular to attract attention, the board will turn on them like those little fanged tribbles in Galaxy Quest.

    • indaburg - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM

      He’s not Satan. Loria is real. Satan is not.

      • kurtstallings - Feb 26, 2013 at 12:26 PM

        But doesn’t he make you wonder?

      • Kevin S. - Feb 26, 2013 at 12:35 PM

        Hey, I know it’s fun to bag on hockey amongst fans of the big-boy sports, but Miroslav Satan has had quite the distinguished career, and his mere existence shouldn’t be dismissed so trivially.

      • indaburg - Feb 26, 2013 at 12:36 PM

        LOL. I’ve been schooled.

      • cur68 - Feb 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM

        My fondest hope for Miroslav Satan is that he gets a PhD. In anything. Divinity or basket weaving or something. Just get the right to be known as “Doctor Satan”. He’d be the baddest badass super villain alive.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 26, 2013 at 2:02 PM

        No, divinity for sure. Pastor/Father Satan. OH YEAH!!!!!!

        The church bulletins would burn! lol

      • indaburg - Feb 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

        He can start a church with Pagan. Yes, Father Pagan, I’d like to confess my sins.

      • historiophiliac - Feb 26, 2013 at 2:07 PM

        Lusting for the priest is mortal, right?

      • indaburg - Feb 26, 2013 at 2:21 PM

        Mmmmmmhmmmmm… very.

      • umrguy42 - Feb 27, 2013 at 10:52 PM

        inda, no joke, I had a cousin who was in the seminary for a while whose last name is Pagan. (Yes, pronounced “PAY-gun”.) He didn’t finish, but yeah, we joked at the time about him becoming “Father Pagan”.

  16. mottershead1972 - Feb 26, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Here’s my take, and I didn’t read all the comments. I HATE LORIA… Having said that he dumped a ton of overpriced “talent” that didn’t allow them to win anything… If it weren’t LORIA, what would we be saying. No doubt, the guy is awful, but I’d rather pay less to be in last than 100 mil. Regarding Stanton, trade the guy… Seems like you can get an entire farm system for the guy…. Then bud can force Jeff to sell the team… As we know, this in a vacuum would be a good long term move, except that when all that talent grow usp, we will see this all again.

  17. kurtstallings - Feb 26, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    To be fair, one must consider this paragraph: “The phrase “… we’ve built this amazing ballpark and …” in between “I’m sorry” and “fans feeling the way we do” pretty much sums it up. He may have well just called everyone ingrates. Of course he left out the part where those fans (a) paid for the ballpark against their will; (b) were duped into “a whole new Marlins” thing, complete with all that new merchandise the team sold last year; and (c) were then treated to another talent liquidation.”

    To owners like Loria, he was doing the people of his town the immense honor of financing his lavish lifestyle. The secret to wealth in America — anywhere — is never pay for a seven course meal yourself once you have just enough money and power you can force someone else to miss a meal paying it off for you. At that point, the money just stacks and stacks …..

  18. eanxdivr - Feb 26, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Mr. Loria is the anti-Christ of baseball.

  19. sisqsage - Feb 26, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Loria has done the unthinkable: he’s made most baseball fans outside of LA forget about Frank McCourt as the lead reprobate/scumbag of MLB.

  20. digbysellers - Feb 26, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Nice pic Loria…These are not the droids you are looking for.

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