Comments on: Joba Chamberlain’s chance to start will come next year

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:45:16 +0000

I could post the rest of the stats that would be more meaningful, but I will be lazy and quote RiverAveBlues.com:

Ivan Nova and his 4.41 ERA in 62 career starts is in camp competing for a rotation spot this spring while Joba and his 4.18 ERA in 43 career starts is not. Think about that. Nova has gotten 19 more starts (and counting!) to prove himself than Joba. – See more at: http://riveraveblues.com/#sthash.X73WkwCe.dpuf

By: tuberippin

tuberippin — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:35:06 +0000

Oh, you’re forgiven. They were silly rules anyway; a grown man does not need to be handled with kid gloves.

My post was in reference to your misappropriation of what constituted Joba’s miniature meltdown. I would argue it was less the gnats and the smothering humidity than it was a rookie’s (as Joba was at the time) inability to reign in his command, given that the tying run was given up via wild pitches and free passes.

By: Kevin Gillman

Kevin Gillman — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:26:46 +0000

Forgive me if I don’t completely bow down to the mighty Yankees, and the now infamous “Jaba Rules”.

By: Kevin Gillman

Kevin Gillman — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:25:12 +0000

If Fausto Carmona could shut down the Yankees, then surely Joba could have. There is no excuse. If THAT was the defining moment of Joba being a completely different pitcher after that, then yes I would have to question if he truly had it to begin with.

By: Kevin Gillman

Kevin Gillman — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:22:22 +0000

Hey, he gave up the tying run, but Roberto Hernandez threw 8 strong innings against the Yankees, and he too had those midges on his face, so you tell me.

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:48:07 +0000

better track than Nova, I don’t think that is true.

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:43:18 +0000

[huge caveat that I'm, obviously, not Cashman]

But I don’t think they see him as fixed. I think they see him as a ticking time bomb with a shoulder ready to go at any moment. Years ago during the Circling the Bases time, I posted how Chamberlain’s stats through 43 starts were almost the exact same as Hughes’s through 43 starts, yet Hughes “won” the “competition” in spring training.

As mentioned on riveraveblues.com, Chamberlain will walk at the end of the year and someone will give him a chance to start. Best of luck to him because it, unfortunately, won’t be the Yanks…

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:41:08 +0000

The Yanks should have refused to continue due to clearly unsafe conditions, and if the umps ruled a forfeit, they should have fought it all the way.

This game was the icing-on-the-cake for me that they should let Torre leave. How could he leave his team out there during the 8th Plague?

By: jwbiii

jwbiii — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:18:37 +0000

Ok, I got that wrong (Bad memory! No beer for you tonight!). It’s Chamberlain’s choice, not the Yankees’. If the Yankees option him, he can accept it, refuse it and stay with the team, or declare free agency without termination pay. If he refuses the assignment, then the Yankees can go through the usual DFA/attempt to trade/waiver wire/outright assignment procedure.

By: tuberippin

tuberippin — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:04:56 +0000

Ahhh, the frailty and malleability of the human memory.

By: dondada10

dondada10 — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:00:12 +0000

If memory serves me, the then Fausto Carmona ate several of those flies off his face in reptilian fashion.

By: dcarroll73

dcarroll73 — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:52:26 +0000

As Kevin stated, this was NOT a matter of guts, but rather this was a dangerous situation that the umps allowed to go on. What did Joba throw then, 97 mph plus? You Indian fans would be singing a different tune if he had lost one of those pitches and killed one of your hitters. The Yanks should have refused to continue due to clearly unsafe conditions, and if the umps ruled a forfeit, they should have fought it all the way. Personally I have always believed that one night somehow got in Joba’s head and diminished the confidence he’d had to be lights out up to then.

By: jwbiii

jwbiii — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:19:11 +0000

Chamberlain has all three options left. But he has more than five years of service time so he can refuse an optional assignment and the Yankees would have to decide whether to keep him on the 25 man roster or release him.

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:56:39 +0000

For a team trying to reduce payroll, they sure don’t seem all that interested in maximizing their assets. If Joba can stick as a starter, couldn’t he help a Yankees team set to loose 3 starting pitchers after the season? Joba has a better track record as a starter than Nova and a longer record than Phelps. He got hurt, then he got fixed. I never understood why Joba was damaged goods but Hughes is the heir-apparent in Yankee Decision Land.

By: vallewho

vallewho — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:47:37 +0000

Good. Enough damage done.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:24:47 +0000

I’m somewhat curious as to whether or not Joba has an option left. If he really wants to start, send him to the minors to work himself back out. He becomes extra rotation insurance this year, his service clock is stalled (so the Yanks still have him next year) and if he pans out at all, he’s a cheap rotation option as they try to hit $189 million.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:21:18 +0000

Couldn’t handle the pressure of the midges? Because not being able to pitch while your face is being swarmed is indicative of some lack of intestinal fortitude?

By: Kevin Gillman

Kevin Gillman — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:10:29 +0000

When I think of Joba, I think of 2007 when he couldn’t handle the pressure of midges on his face in the ALDS against my Indians. It changed the complete tone of the series when he gave up the tying run on a wild pitch. Ahhhh memories.

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:02:00 +0000

Connors is gone

By: Matthew Pouliot

Matthew Pouliot — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:43:28 +0000

Whoops. Yeah, it should have said 21 (technically he’s 27 in 2013… his birthday is Sept. 23).

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:41:17 +0000

Attention, Stasburg, that is a less cool release face right there.

By: number42is1

number42is1 — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:35:28 +0000

“He’s no longer the talent that he was when he entered the league as a brash 20-year-old reliever in 2007″

Sorry… but this drove me nuts for like 5 minutes… he couldn’t have been 20 in 2007 and 28 in 2013. He was 22 in 2007.

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:29:11 +0000

I don’t think that starting is in his future, I think he will be a reliever.

By: vallewho

vallewho — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:23:40 +0000

Yes, it won’t be for the NYY. I hate to say it, but the crew at the NYY really manages to F-up pitchers in development. It really boils my blood every time they mention that the powers that be and the “pitching guru” down in Tampa have made a decision to go in a certain way with regards to a pitcher.