Comments on: The Netherlands advance to Round 2 of WBC

By: blacksables

blacksables — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:16:49 +0000

No, it’s not a great blog. Matthew forgot to mention his previous post where he stated that he doubted if the Netherlands would even win a game.

Yet here they are advancing to the second round for the second tournament in row.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:41:04 +0000

And that invalidates my comment how?

By: jwbiii

jwbiii — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:36:05 +0000

” it’s like saying citizens of Latin-american descent in California aren’t “American””

Adrian Gonzalez, born in San Diego, is playing 1B for Mexico. Of course he’s American. He’s just eligible to play for another team.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:33:56 +0000

Paper, seriously, just stop. You just keep digging a bigger hole for yourself. Now you’re saying people from St. Barts aren’t French! LOL.

By: bat42boy

bat42boy — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:30:33 +0000

Who cares?

By: cktai

cktai — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:54:42 +0000

Someone from St Barts is French actually. Ask them. The distance from Hawaii to New York is about the same as the distance from Amsterdam to Willemstad.

India however, is not part of the sovereign state of the United Kingdom, hence someone from India would not be British. This is not a matter of lineage, or the United States would be full of Dutch people. No it is a matter of political divides. If you are born in one of the countries of the sovereign states of the Netherlands, or born to a citizen of the Netherlands, you are for all purposes Dutch. You can freely travel inside the Netherlands and all the European countries which constitute the Shengen.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:40:15 +0000

No, it wouldn’t be like calling the Scottish British, as each of those peoples have very similar lineages. It really is more like calling someone from India, British or someone from St. Barts French.

Puerto Rico is just as much a part of the US (Probably more so, as it is not it’s own country, as Curacao is), yet PR has its own WBC team.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:37:40 +0000

It doesn’t. Which is laughable, it’s like saying citizens of Latin-american descent in California aren’t “American” because they weren’t bred in the true and proper northeast coast towns.

By: cktai

cktai — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:31:51 +0000

Actually Bogaerts is from Aruba.

Other than the fact that Curaçao is indeed part of sovereign state known as the Netherlands as you later corrected yourself; I don’t see how your comment changes anything I said here before.

By: locustfarm

locustfarm — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:08:50 +0000

Those guys are from Curaçao, which is off the coast of Venezuela. NOT the Netherlands. They may be partially ethnically Dutch, but some may not be. They’re considered Dutch because Curaçao is a constituent country of the Netherlands.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:43:06 +0000

Cktai 1, Paper 0. Not that paper will ever admit defeat…

By: cktai

cktai — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:38:07 +0000

Where were you located? There are baseball clubs spread throughout the Netherlands, but the nucleus is around Haarlem, Amsterdam, and Rotterdam.

By: stex52

stex52 — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:33:08 +0000

I worked for a while in the Netherlands. Where I was, there wasn’t a lot of baseball. Women’s softball was popular, though.

By: cktai

cktai — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:01:54 +0000

That was actually quite disappointing btw. You see this enormously tall guy step on the mount who looks like he is standing on stilts, with the commentator talking about how length helps you throw harder, and he only hits 93.

Look at those legs though. Unnatural
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21946482/vanmil.png

By: albertmn

albertmn — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:55:14 +0000

Hey, we have a Hall of Famer that was born there, Bert Blyleven. More than some countries may be able to claim.

By: cktai

cktai — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:33:21 +0000

The Kingdom of the Netherlands is a sovereign state with four constituent countries. All citizen of the four countries are citizens of the Netherlands, and thus hold both the Dutch and the European citizenship.

This is not the case for former colonies that have since left the Kingdom, such as Surinam, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, or New York. Although many Surinam players such as Clarence Seedorf, Edson Braafheid, Edgar Davids, and Jarrel Hasselbaink have played for the Dutch national football team.

By: cktai

cktai — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:13:28 +0000

Actually it’d be more like calling people from Scotland British. Which most people actually do.

As for Dutch talents, well we had Rick van der Hurk, the late Greg Halman, Loek van Mil, Rob Cordemans, David Bergman, Tom Stuifbergen, Deigomar Markewell. Does Leon Boyd count, as he spend his entire childhood in the Netherlands.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:58:34 +0000

Well, yeah, if you want to consider people from Curaçao (which is now it’s own country rather than a territory) to be “Dutch”…..I guess that mean people from India used to be British. There really isn’t much Dutch talent….as the Dutch are people from the Netherlands (and their descendants), which does not include Profar, Schoop, or Bogaerts.

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:24:09 +0000

Thank You!

By: cktai

cktai — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:10:10 +0000

Thee of the top 100 prospects are Dutch: Jurickson Profar, Jonathan Schoop and Xander Bogaerts. Add Andrelton Simmons and Roger Bernadina to that, and yeah, they have quite some talent.

By: cktai

cktai — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:09:09 +0000

93 mph…

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:59:55 +0000

A 7 foot 1 closer? How hard does he throw?

By: mybrunoblog

mybrunoblog — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:59:13 +0000

Yeah the netherlands is known as a real hotbed of baseball talent and fandom.

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